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13:27:28 <shawn> zakim, this will be eowg
13:27:28 <Zakim> ok, shawn; I see WAI_EOWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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13:28:10 <Zakim> +doyle
13:28:22 <Zakim> +Shawn
13:29:22 <Zakim> +Wayne_Dick
13:30:23 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:30:32 <Zakim> +Bingham
13:31:04 <Zakim> +Jack
13:31:26 <Zakim> +Andrew_Arch
13:31:51 <Zakim> +Judy
13:32:09 <Zakim> +Sylvie_Duchateau\Tanguy_Lohéac
13:32:30 <shadi> meeting: EOWG
13:32:35 <shadi> scribe: Shadi
13:32:39 <shadi> chair: Shawn
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13:32:56 <shawn> zakim, who is here?
13:32:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see doyle, Shawn, Wayne_Dick, Shadi, Bingham, Jack, Andrew_Arch, Judy, Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac
13:32:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see Harvey, RRSAgent, Zakim, Andrew, Wayne, shadi, shawn
13:33:15 <Zakim> +Helle_Bjarno
13:33:20 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2007JanMar/0058.html
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13:33:52 <Zakim> +Loughborough
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13:34:29 <shadi> Topic: Role Call
13:34:47 <shadi> [participants say "hi"]
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13:35:09 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:35:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see doyle, Shawn, Wayne_Dick, Shadi, Bingham, Jack, Andrew_Arch, Judy, Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac, Helle_Bjarno, Loughborough
13:35:34 <shadi> Topic: Web Accessibility Standards Harmonization Updates
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13:36:11 <shadi> slh: checking-in on various developments, looking forward to exchanging knowledge
13:36:15 <Jack> Greetings everyone!
13:37:30 <shadi> aa: in Australia coming close to establishing a committee, was hard to organize
13:37:48 <shadi> ...aim is to formally participate in activities like JTC-1 etc
13:38:09 <shadi> ...and to be able to adopt national and international standards
13:39:00 <shawn> agenda+ US Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee (TEITAC) (updating Section 508 and Section 255) http://teitac.org/
13:39:00 <shawn> agenda+ ISO/IEC JTC-1 Special Working Group on Accessibility (SWG-A) http://www.jtc1access.org/
13:39:00 <shawn> agenda+ Japanese Standards Association (JSA) http://www.jsa.or.jp/default_english.asp
13:39:00 <shawn> agenda+ Europe: EC Mandate on IT Accessibility, CEN Workshops, Unified Web Evaluation Methodology (UWEM) version 1.0 and future http://www.wabcluster.org/uwem1/
13:39:01 <shawn> agenda+ United Nations Global Accessibility Initiative on Technology
13:39:03 <shawn> agenda+ Helle update
13:39:05 <shawn> agenda+ Other
13:40:44 <shadi> jb: had various discussions on many of these issues during the past
13:41:02 <shadi> ...bringing pieces together to coordinate some of the developments
13:41:14 <shawn> agenda+ Tim Berners-Lee testimony at US House of Representatives
13:41:27 <shadi> ...may feed into the policy developments and/or stds harmonization pages
13:42:09 <shawn> Why Standards Harmonization is Essential to Web Accessibility http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/harmon (reply to Helle -- although hopefully it is fairly easy to find on the WAi web site ! ;)
13:42:15 <shadi> ...intention is to promote stds harmonization and give and update to people
13:42:57 <Zakim> +Justin
13:43:16 <shadi> jb: encourage people to send comments and questions to the list
13:43:29 <shadi> ...to try and address these during future calls
13:44:01 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
13:44:01 <Zakim> agendum 1. "US Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee (TEITAC) (updating Section 508 and Section 255) http://teitac.org/" taken up [from
13:44:05 <Zakim> ... shawn]
13:44:38 <shadi> jb: TEITAC was convened by US Access Board in September 2006
13:44:51 <shadi> ...a follow on effort from a Federal Advisory Committee
13:45:43 <shadi> ...to refresh the technical standard for Section 508
13:46:13 <shadi> ...to update the technology requirements and to harmonize with international standards
13:46:32 <shadi> ...W3C applied and was nominated as one of the groups to be represented at TEITAC
13:47:14 <shadi> ...participation also from different entities including disability organization, industries, and international participation
13:47:34 <shadi> ...particularly from EU, Australia, Japan
13:47:44 <Andrew> JB: membership of TEITAC - http://teitac.org/wiki/Committee_members
13:47:46 <shadi> ...and Candada
13:48:47 <shadi> jb: TEITAC is advisory, not a legislative body
13:49:01 <shadi> ...anticipated to go to November 2007
13:49:14 <shadi> ...could take longer but people want it wrapped up soon
13:50:02 <shadi> jb: TEITAC is actually updating two parts -Section 255 Telecomunication, and Section 508
13:50:19 <shadi> ..trying to update them together to align them
13:50:43 <shadi> ...many different sub-committies, including Web & Software
13:51:03 <shadi> ...link in the agenda gives good background
13:51:20 <shadi> jb: hope to be able to reference WCAG 2.0
13:51:48 <Andrew> JB: TEITAC subcommittees - http://teitac.org/wiki/TEITAC_Wiki#Subcommittees
13:51:55 <shadi> ...also discussions on UAAG and ATAG but not as optimistic to have a direct referencing
13:53:34 <shadi> hb: is there acceptance for 508 amongst developers? often there was little interest in implementing 508 by developers
13:54:04 <shadi> jb: developers *in* TEITAC are pretty supportive organizations
13:54:42 <shadi> ...Section 508 is more of an incentive approach
13:55:05 <shadi> ...if you implement accessibility, then the government more likely to buy your products
13:56:07 <shadi> wl: often the initial impact of directives and legislation is hight but then slows down
13:56:33 <shadi> ...sometimes little knowledge to implement accessibility
13:57:22 <shadi> ...however, the current amount of laws and legislations in different countries such as the US or the EU is very promising
13:58:23 <shadi> ...momentum is well under way, light at the end of the tunnel, can't stop it anymore
13:59:17 <shadi> jb: Section 508 had a huge ripple-effect in many countries and raised awareness
14:00:02 <shadi> ...education work in WAI and else where got real lift through media coverage
14:00:31 <shadi> ...optimistic about the progress
14:01:15 <shadi> wd: in CA where they tied their law to 508, it had significant impact
14:01:49 <shadi> jb: interested in experience with VPATs, hearing different things
14:02:20 <shadi> wd: got to test the product anyway, VPAT can lie
14:02:38 <shadi> ...but availability of a VPAT is important, tells you something about the product
14:03:45 <Andrew> AA: question about the accuracy, and hence value, of VPATs - my experience a few years ago was that they were very exagerated and/or had big gaps
14:04:16 <shadi> jb: are people interested in resources being sent to the list?
14:04:36 <shadi> wd: TEITAC site is pretty good, got lost on the Japanese one
14:04:40 <Andrew> JB: web and software subcommittee WIKI - http://teitac.org/wiki/Web_and_Software
14:05:12 <Andrew> JB: general interface - http://teitac.org/wiki/General_Interface_Accessibility
14:06:11 <shawn> q+ to ask about public involvement w/ link
14:06:22 <Andrew> JB: audio - video subcommittee: http://teitac.org/wiki/Audio_Video
14:06:27 <shadi> jb: what is the interaction between the sub-committees and the central one? how do they work together?
14:06:58 <shadi> s/jb: what is the interaction/jw: what is the interaction
14:07:51 <shadi> jb: sub-committess explore specific areas using their own teleconferences and face-to-face meetings
14:07:59 <hbj> q+  to ask about effect/influence on work in EU?
14:08:26 <shadi> ...for example to focus on cognitive disabilities or such
14:08:57 <shadi> ...each sub-committee delivers reports of their specific areas
14:09:21 <shadi> ...these are collated in the main committee with consensus building
14:09:38 <shawn> ack hbj
14:09:38 <Zakim> hbj, you wanted to ask about effect/influence on work in EU?
14:09:41 <shadi> zakim, unmute me
14:09:41 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
14:10:20 <Andrew> SAZ: where is the report to be sent?
14:10:36 <shadi> jb: report that includes the recommendations from TEITAC then goes to the US access board
14:10:57 <shadi> ...then is processed there and comes back as a draft for public review
14:11:03 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:11:03 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:12:13 <shadi> hbj: how will this work that comes out of TEITAC influence the work in Europe?
14:13:11 <shadi> q+ to clarify difference between EU & EC
14:13:35 <shadi> jb: they will follow closely and maybe adopt interesting concepts
14:13:45 <shawn> ack shadi
14:13:46 <Zakim> shadi, you wanted to clarify difference between EU & EC
14:13:50 <shadi> ...the process is so complex and sophisticated
14:14:32 <judy> s/any maybe adopt interesting concepts/any maybe adopt interesting concepts to the extent that they like what they see, or not
14:14:41 <judy> s/any/and
14:15:00 <Andrew> saz: EC is sitting on TEITAC, but EU has member states that are independent
14:15:20 <Andrew> ... very complex and unpredictable
14:15:25 <Wayne> q+
14:15:37 <shawn> ack wayne
14:15:47 <Zakim> -Helle_Bjarno
14:16:29 <shadi> wd: is TEITAC taking the same approach to emerging technologies?
14:17:16 <Andrew> JB: some international participants are particularly interested in how TEITAC addresses the needs of people withcognitive disabilities - see http://teitac.org/wiki/Web_and_Software:_Cognitive_recommendations
14:18:40 <Andrew> s/withcognitive/with cognitive/
14:18:40 <shawn> ack me
14:18:40 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to ask about public involvement w/ link
14:18:50 <Zakim> +Helle_Bjarno
14:19:27 <shadi> slh: someone asked me, they joined a sub-committe but don't know where and how to comment
14:20:13 <shadi> jb: can do a lot automatically...register, and subscribe to the mailing list
14:20:27 <shadi> ...much of the discussion takes place on the mailing list
14:20:31 <judy> ...and attend teleconferences
14:20:36 <shadi> ...teleconferences are used additionally to
14:20:59 <Andrew> JB: initially join a mailing list (eg http://teitac.org/wiki/Web_and_Software#Mailing_list) then participate in the discussion
14:21:02 <shadi> wl: how are wikis used?
14:21:25 <shadi> jb: mainly for meeting logistics but also for discussion specific themes
14:21:46 <shadi> ...also report to the full committee may take place in the wiki
14:22:23 <shadi> wl: no wikipedia entry for TEITAC
14:22:40 <shadi> jb: thought there was, may be under section 508, please suggest
14:23:40 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:23:40 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ISO/IEC JTC-1 Special Working Group on Accessibility (SWG-A) http://www.jtc1access.org/" taken up [from shawn]
14:24:38 <shadi> jb: ISO/IEC international designated standards body
14:25:11 <shadi> ...JTC is a joint committee between these two bodies
14:25:28 <shadi> ...SWG is a wokring group within that, to focus on accessibility
14:25:53 <shadi> ...aim is to address harmonization of standards internationally
14:26:09 <shadi> ...process is fairly formal under JTC-1 procedures
14:26:42 <shadi> ...possibilites for participation of disability organizations, by teleconference etc
14:27:11 <shadi> jb: work by creating a matrix of requirements and technologies
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14:27:49 <shadi> ...there has been some effort to provide this information as a library of technologies for governments
14:29:11 <shadi> jb: JTC is not recommending any specific guidelines or technologies, they only provide information about them
14:29:15 <Andrew> JB: one outcome is "Accessibility Standards Inventory Version 2.0" available from http://jtc1access.org/documents/swga_docreg.htm
14:29:18 <Wayne> q+
14:29:29 <hbj> q+
14:29:40 <shadi> wl: is accessibility considered?
14:30:29 <shadi> jb: some are, for example JSA submitted an accessibility standard for writing accessibility standards
14:31:13 <shadi> ...still pursuing normative references to WCAG
14:31:34 <shawn> ack wayne
14:31:41 <shadi> ...can see change in awareness of people's interest and awareness
14:32:10 <shadi> jw: what is the relationship of accessibility and usability<
14:32:41 <shadi> jb: can't generalize, in general there seems to be a raise of awareness to both of these
14:33:01 <shadi> slh: how's the discussion on that going in TEITAC?
14:33:52 <shadi> jb: some interest in usability from the participants
14:34:10 <shadi> ...not really affecting the provisions but the presentation of them
14:34:29 <shadi> wd: JTC?
14:34:38 <Andrew> AA: Andrew understands TEITAC is linking with ISO 9241-20 (Accessibility guidelines for ICT equipment & services)
14:34:41 <shadi> jb: (J)oint (T)echnical (C)ommittee
14:34:49 <shawn> ack hbj
14:35:41 <shadi> hbj: sat in during the last meeting Brussels...spent two days listening to acronyms and numbers
14:35:56 <shadi> ...apart from that its interesting and a good idea
14:36:04 <shadi> ...hope good things will come out from it
14:36:15 <shadi> ...for instance work on the biometrics
14:37:30 <Andrew> AA: additional deliverable is "User Needs Summary Version 1.0" also available from http://jtc1access.org/documents/swga_docreg.htm
14:38:05 <shadi> hbj: trying to get the ministries to be aware and interested in JTC-1 work
14:38:28 <shadi> ...not to participate but to turn to when looking for standards
14:38:48 <shawn> q+ to ask for pointer to user needs matrix/description
14:39:06 <shawn> q-
14:39:09 <Andrew> AA: Andrew notes that JTC1 has established SWG-A Ad Hoc 12 (JTC 1 Web Site Accessibility) and is calling for Additional Participants 
14:39:56 <Andrew> q+ to coment on the poor accessibility of much of the JTC1 site
14:40:37 <Wayne> Interesting reference -- http://www.jtc1access.org/documents/swga_docreg.htm
14:40:59 <shawn> ack andrew
14:40:59 <Zakim> Andrew, you wanted to coment on the poor accessibility of much of the JTC1 site
14:42:06 <shadi> aa: JTC-1 established an ad-hoc 12 on Web site accessibility, and are calling for partcipation
14:43:05 <shadi> ...also the site is very poor with regards to accessibility
14:43:36 <shadi> saz: this has been raised many times, its on the to-do but nothing much has happened lately
14:43:47 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:43:47 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Japanese Standards Association (JSA) http://www.jsa.or.jp/default_english.asp" taken up [from shawn]
14:45:30 <shadi> jb: initially was an attempt to merge WCAG 1.0 and Section 508
14:45:55 <shadi> ...resulted in participation of JSA in WCAG WG
14:46:16 <shadi> ...working together to find common grounds
14:46:53 <shadi> ...in the hope of harmonizing the two specs
14:47:41 <shadi> hbj: seems also that the Japanese are very active in JTC-1
14:48:07 <shadi> jb: yes, very committed to harmonize work internationally
14:48:24 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:48:25 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Europe: EC Mandate on IT Accessibility, CEN Workshops, Unified Web Evaluation Methodology (UWEM) version 1.0 and future http://www.wabcluster.org/uwem1/" taken up [from
14:48:27 <Zakim> ... shawn]
14:49:39 <Andrew> saz: to summarise:
14:50:20 <Andrew> ... UWEM is based on WCAG 1.0 and prepared by three Eurpoean groups
14:50:43 <Andrew> ... a new version should appear in mid-year to reflect WCAG 2.0
14:51:13 <Andrew> ... part of WAB-Cluster work spun of a CEN Workshop on Certification
14:51:49 <Andrew> ... WAI commented and reported back to EO in mid 2006
14:52:09 <Andrew> ... CEN workshops just produce papers and recommendation - not standards
14:52:36 <Andrew> ... another CEN Workshop is on Documention and Print Accessibility
14:52:53 <Andrew> ... relationship to DAISY and similar standards
14:53:25 <Andrew> ... also the EU Manadate to implement stanadards relating to accesisbility
14:53:45 <Andrew> ... will be an overlap with WCAG/UAAG/ATAG
14:55:01 <judy> q+
14:55:17 <shawn> ack j
14:55:35 <shadi> wl: are people aware of ATAG?
14:55:38 <Andrew> WL: what about the role of tools?
14:56:09 <shadi> saz: yes, but need to continue to raise awareness and the relationship between the guidelines
14:56:36 <Andrew> JB: ATAG doesn't seem to get traction within the discussions
14:57:11 <Andrew> ... because, no matter the obvious rationalle, it doesn't seem to connect
14:57:26 <Andrew> ... or they are preoccupieed with other issues
14:58:31 <hbj> q+
14:58:42 <shawn> ack hbj
14:59:01 <Wayne> q+
14:59:13 <shadi> q+
14:59:19 <Andrew> HBJ: went to a user group meeting for a CMS - they were talking about accessibility
15:00:24 <Andrew> ... talking to the developers, they concentrate on WCAG and output, not so much on the authoring end
15:00:27 <shadi> q-
15:00:28 <shawn> ack w
15:01:12 <Andrew> WD: how is this going to get into law?
15:01:26 <Andrew> SAZ: EC is working on several fronts
15:01:37 <Zakim> -Andrew_Arch
15:01:46 <Andrew> ... harmonised technical standards
15:02:25 <Zakim> +Andrew_Arch
15:02:42 <shawn> ... harmonise how evaluation handled among member states
15:03:18 <shawn> ... if implemented at EC level, will filter down
15:03:34 <Andrew> HBJ: is Wayne asking about member state laws?
15:04:08 <Andrew> WD: yes - in US, just one law (S508), but in Europe, many member states
15:04:19 <judy> q+
15:04:29 <Andrew> HBJ: in Denmark, mauch of this would not become law
15:04:51 <Andrew> ... often just policy & regulations
15:05:04 <shadi> q+ to be a bit more positive
15:05:17 <Andrew> ... and often customised/interpreted
15:05:49 <Andrew> ... due to differences in culture
15:06:07 <Andrew> ... north/south & east/west differences
15:06:25 <shawn> ack j
15:07:41 <Andrew> JB: good to be reminded of the very diverse cultural and legislative differences across Europe
15:08:23 <Andrew> ... and that EC can only recommend, not enforce
15:09:07 <shawn> ack s
15:09:09 <Zakim> shadi, you wanted to be a bit more positive
15:09:37 <Andrew> ... also, economic differences; how much accessibility various countries think they can afford
15:10:32 <Andrew> SAZ: despite all these complexities, it is working and a lot of things are happening as a result of EC pushes
15:11:59 <Andrew> WD: in Denmark, you just have guidelines - if you follow, then you are "good"
15:12:22 <Andrew> ... do Corporations take any notice?
15:12:44 <Andrew> HBJ: they would like to be better, but impact is low
15:12:54 <Andrew> ... slow progress
15:13:28 <Andrew> SAZ: industry often doesn't take note of guidleines
15:13:35 <Andrew> ... but governments do
15:13:50 <Andrew> ... and often watch their neighbours
15:14:20 <Andrew> SLH: often works better in Europe than it would in the US
15:14:56 <Andrew> HBJ: in Denamrk, legislation would probably not have made any difference
15:15:44 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:15:44 <Zakim> agendum 5. "United Nations Global Accessibility Initiative on Technology" taken up [from shawn]
15:16:07 <shadi> agenda?
15:18:58 <shadi> jb: Henny was asking if this is the same as the G2ICT
15:19:09 <shadi> s/G2ICT/G3ICT
15:19:43 <shadi> ...first step towards ratification
15:19:54 <hbj> +q ask about meetings before we quit
15:20:10 <shadi> ...kicked-off activity to drive implementation
15:20:49 <Zakim> -Loughborough
15:20:49 <shadi> ...has a combination of government and non-government participation
15:21:10 <shawn> q+ to ask for links
15:21:14 <shadi> ...question is how to try making information technologies accessible
15:21:41 <Zakim> + +1.509.773.aaaa
15:21:44 <shadi> ...most of te focus is on implementation, but also an eye on standards
15:21:50 <Andrew> q+ to ask for references - is it related to http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2006/note6054.doc.htm?
15:21:59 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is really William
15:22:00 <Zakim> +William; got it
15:22:12 <shawn> ack me
15:22:12 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to ask for links
15:22:29 <hbj> q+ to ask about meetings before we quit
15:22:40 <shadi> slh: had a hard time finding links and information on this
15:23:01 <shadi> jb: will put link to press release into IRC
15:23:04 <judy> more info: http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2006/note6054.doc.htm
15:23:05 <shawn> ack a
15:23:05 <Zakim> Andrew, you wanted to ask for references - is it related to http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2006/note6054.doc.htm?
15:23:11 <shadi> ...there are several versions of this
15:24:33 <shadi> action: JB to dig up UN references and send to the list
15:24:51 <judy> Link to Tim's presentation in US congressional subcommittee: http://energycommerce.house.gov/cmte_mtgs/110-ti_hrg.030107.WorldWideWeb.shtml
15:24:58 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:24:58 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, shadi
15:25:13 <shadi> q- helle
15:25:14 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:25:14 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, shadi
15:25:21 <shadi> q- hbj
15:25:23 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:25:24 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Helle update" taken up [from shawn]
15:26:11 <shawn> zakim, drop agenda item 7
15:26:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'drop agenda item 7', shawn
15:26:15 <shadi> hbj: having first meeting in march
15:26:18 <shawn> zakim, drop agenda 7
15:26:18 <Zakim> agendum 7, Other, dropped
15:26:27 <shadi> ...hope to be driving implementation in DK
15:27:13 <shadi> ...want to use BAD and WCAG 2.0
15:27:52 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:27:52 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Tim Berners-Lee testimony at US House of Representatives" taken up [from shawn]
15:28:13 <Andrew> one report: http://www.itworld.com/Man/2681/070301bernerslee/index.html
15:28:28 <shadi> slh: testimony is online, reports, and webcast available
15:29:27 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:29:27 <Zakim> I do not see any non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, shadi
15:29:42 <shadi> topic: next meeting
15:29:50 <Andrew> TBL Testimony: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/03/01-ushouse-future-of-the-web.html
15:30:12 <shadi> slh: next two meetings are planned, can check mid-week for confirmation
15:30:32 <Zakim> -William
15:30:32 <shadi> hbj: when are you planning the next f2f?
15:30:47 <shadi> jb: no plans currently, see minutes of previous meeting
15:31:12 <shadi> hbj: wondering if we want to continue these interesting discussion next week
15:31:27 <shadi> topic: Announcement from Wayne
15:32:31 <Zakim> -Bingham
15:32:32 <shadi> saz: on Wednesday morning at CSUN there is a session Higher Education about California State University Accessibility Initiative
15:32:33 <Zakim> -doyle
15:32:34 <Zakim> -Helle_Bjarno
15:32:36 <Zakim> -Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac
15:32:37 <Zakim> -Justin
15:32:39 <Zakim> -Shawn
15:32:39 <Zakim> -Wayne_Dick
15:32:40 <Zakim> -Andrew_Arch
15:32:40 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:32:45 <Zakim> -Judy
15:32:46 <Zakim> -Jack
15:32:47 <Zakim> WAI_EOWG()8:30AM has ended
15:32:48 <Zakim> Attendees were doyle, Shawn, Wayne_Dick, Shadi, Bingham, Jack, Andrew_Arch, Judy, Sylvie_Duchateau\Tanguy_Lohéac, Helle_Bjarno, Loughborough, Justin, +1.509.773.aaaa, William
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15:34:36 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:34:46 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:34:52 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:34:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/02-eo-minutes.html shadi
15:34:54 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:34:58 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:34:58 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/02-eo-actions.rdf :
15:34:58 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JB to dig up UN references and send to the list [1]
15:34:58 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/02-eo-irc#T15-24-33