IRC log of wai-wcag on 2007-03-01
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc
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- rrsagent, make log world
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- meeting: WAI WCAG
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- chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JanMar/0126.html
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- regrets: Sofia_Celic, Sorcha_Moore
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
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- +Makoto_Ueki; got it
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- +Cooper
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, [IPcaller is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
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- +??P7
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- zakim, ??P7 is Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- + +7.971.aaaa
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- +David_MacDonald
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- Zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero
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- Roberto_Ellero should now be muted
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- +John_Slatin
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- topic: Announcements
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- scribe: Sean_Hayes
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- scribeNick: sean
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- topic: Editors survey from 22 February <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070222editorz/results>
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- topic: LC1310
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- topic:LC-708
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- ack j
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- resolution: accept 708 as amended (with change 'user accessible' to 'user controllable')
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- action: david MacDonald to add information to HTM to describe what is meant by "user-controllable"
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- topic: LC-721
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- +Don_Evans
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- +Tim_Boland
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- action: David_MacDonald to produce writeup for technique "describing the error and creating a mechanism that allows users to jump to them"
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- leave 721 open pending David's action item
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- topic: LC954
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- q+
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- q+ to say that Unicode also has private use areas
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- ack l
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- ack c
- 21:34:56 [Zakim]
- Christophe, you wanted to say that Unicode also has private use areas
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- ack l
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- action: Sean and Christophe to find formulation of electronic text that a user agent can look at and know what it is - pronounce it etc. based on Unicode
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- leave LC-954 open
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- topic: LC-1194
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- unanimous consent
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- topic: LC-1300
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- unanimous consent with David's edit.
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- topic: LC-1314
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- q+
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- topic: LC-1413
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- q-
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- zakim, who;s making noise?
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- I don't understand your question, David_MacDonald__.
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- -Don_Evans
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- zakim, who's making noise?
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- David_MacDonald__, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- zakim, who's making noise?
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- David_MacDonald__, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_MacDonald (25%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (62%), Tim_Boland (10%)
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- ack John
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- q+
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- +Cynthia_Shelly
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- action: Gregg to think of a new example
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 21:59:52 [sean]
- unanimous consent to close with David's and Christophe's edits.
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- Christophe edit is "abbreviated form made from the initial letters or parts of other words (in a name or phrase) which may be pronounced as a word"
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- unanimous consent to close LC-618, LC-1169, LC-1279, LC-526, LC-566, LC-615, LC-620, LC-633, LC-684, LC-1021, LC-1036, LC-1309, LC-1408, LC-868, LC-1022, LC-1059, LC-1258, LC-782
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- topic: Team C proposals for 01 March 2007 <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070301-teamc/results>
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- topic: Team C proposals for 01 March 2007 <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070301-teamc/results>
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- are you there, Gregg?
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- line dop
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- Tim are you there?
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- topic: LC-1133
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- unanimous consent to close LC-1133 with adding "relative"
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- topic: rewording of sc 1.1.1
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- q+
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- q-
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- queue?
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- ack l
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- ack c
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- zakim, who is making noise?
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- Loretta, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Cynthia_Shelly (60%), David_MacDonald (4%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (29%), Tim_Boland (25%)
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack l
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- q+
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- ack d
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- ack j
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- q+
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- ack b
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- ack d
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- ack d
- 22:24:56 [sean]
- resolution: refer back to team (Andi, David, Ben, Gregg, Cynthia) and re-survey
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- action: (Andi, David, Ben, Gregg, Cynthia) to consider new wording
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
- 22:25:49 [sean]
- topic: LC-587
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- s/wording/wording for 1.1.1 (958)
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden
- 22:29:35 [sean]
- action: Ben and Gregg to write up Jim Thatchers proposed SC as new SC under 4.1.3
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- remains open
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- topic: LC-626
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- zakim, who's being attacked by mosquitos?
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- I don't understand your question, Christophe.
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- resolution: Team C to write up as SC under 2.4
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- topic: Sc 1.3.5
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- resolution: Accept SC 1.3.5 to level 1
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- topic: LC-946
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- resolution: Accept 946 as amended
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- topic: LC-1124
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- -Tim_Boland
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- resolution: Accept LC-1124 as amended (benefits for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2)
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- topic: LC-1253
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- resolution: Accept LC-1253 as amended. (Add guideline level advisory techniques)
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- topic: LC-1255
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- resolution: Accept LC-1255 as amended (use Cynthia's language, add advisory technique to 'using clearest and simplest language appropriate to the content' to guideline and 3.1.5)
- 22:49:38 [sean]
- michael can you paste the new topic
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- topic: LC-1500
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- resolution: Accepted as proposed
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- topic: LC-933
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- resolution: Accept LC-933 as amended.
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- topic: LC-851
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- resolution: Accept LC-851 as amended.
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- -Cooper
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- -John_Slatin
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Sean_Hayes
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- -Makoto_Ueki
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- 22:56:56 [ben_]
- RRSAgent, pointer?
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- See http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc#T22-56-56
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- zakim, bye
- 22:57:45 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Makoto_Ueki, Cooper, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, +7.971.aaaa, David_MacDonald,
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- ... Roberto_Ellero, Sean_Hayes, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Christophe_Strobbe, John_Slatin, Don_Evans, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly
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- zakim, bye
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: david MacDonald to add information to HTM to describe what is meant by "user-controllable" [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc#T21-19-09
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- ACTION: David_MacDonald to produce writeup for technique "describing the error and creating a mechanism that allows users to jump to them" [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc#T21-23-36
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- ACTION: Sean and Christophe to find formulation of electronic text that a user agent can look at and know what it is - pronounce it etc. based on Unicode [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc#T21-36-29
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- ACTION: Gregg to think of a new example [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc#T21-55-20
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- ACTION: (Andi, David, Ben, Gregg, Cynthia) to consider new wording [5]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc#T22-25-26
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- ACTION: Ben and Gregg to write up Jim Thatchers proposed SC as new SC under 4.1.3 [6]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-irc#T22-29-35