IRC log of grddl-wg on 2007-02-28

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16:01:05 [DanC]

Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda

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working on it, DanC

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agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-02-28T11:00-0500

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agendum 12 added

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oops

16:01:11 [john-l]

Zakim, HarryH is aaaa

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agenda+ Overview of Meeting

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agendum 13 added

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agenda+ [#issue-http-header-links]

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agendum 14 added

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agenda+ GRDDL Spec: Last Call

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agendum 15 added

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agenda+ Primer Document: Last Call?

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agendum 16 added

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agenda+ Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call?

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agendum 17 added

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agenda+ Test Cases as Rec?

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agendum 18 added

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agenda+ Misc Test-Cases nominated for approval

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agendum 19 added

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agenda+ tests for [#issue-mt-ns]

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agendum 20 added

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agenda+ tests for [#issue-faithful-infoset]

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agendum 21 added

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agenda+ tests for [#issue-base-param]

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agendum 22 added

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done reading agenda, DanC

16:02:07 [Zakim]

sorry, john-l, I do not recognize a party named 'HarryH'

16:02:09 [DanC]

Zakim, clear agenda

16:02:13 [chimezie]

Zakim, +1.919.668.aaaa is HarryH

16:02:22 [DanC]

Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda

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agenda cleared

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+HarryH; got it

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+DanC

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working on it, DanC

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agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-02-28T11:00-0500

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agendum 1 added

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agenda+ Overview of Meeting

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agendum 2 added

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agenda+ [#issue-http-header-links]

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agendum 3 added

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agenda+ GRDDL Spec: Last Call

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agendum 4 added

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agenda+ Primer Document: Last Call?

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agendum 5 added

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agenda+ Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call?

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agendum 6 added

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agenda+ Test Cases as Rec?

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agendum 7 added

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agenda+ Misc Test-Cases nominated for approval

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agendum 8 added

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agenda+ tests for [#issue-mt-ns]

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agendum 9 added

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agenda+ tests for [#issue-faithful-infoset]

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agendum 10 added

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agenda+ tests for [#issue-base-param]

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agendum 11 added

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done reading agenda, DanC

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+??P16

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Zakim, take up item 1

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+Jerome

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Scribe: DanC

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Meeting: GRDDL WG Weekly

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agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-02-28T11:00-0500" taken up

16:03:48 [DanC]

Zakim, who's on the phone?

16:04:03 [Zakim]

On the phone I see HarryH, Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, DanC, ??P16, Jerome

16:04:07 [bwm]

Zakim, ??p16 is bwm

16:04:17 [Zakim]

+bwm; got it

16:04:25 [HarryH]

PROPOSED: to approve GRDDL WG Weekly -- 21 Feb 2007 as a true record

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0204.html

16:04:49 [DanC]

so RESOLVED

16:04:51 [FabienG]

zakim, Jerome is FabienG

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+FabienG; got it

16:05:07 [HarryH]

Zakim, who's on the phone?

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+Murray_Maloney

16:05:31 [Zakim]

On the phone I see HarryH, Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney

16:05:45 [HarryH]

IanD on IRC

16:05:53 [iand]

I am not on the phone

16:06:13 [HarryH]

PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500. scribe volunteer?

16:06:13 [DanC]

PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500. scribe volunteer?

16:06:23 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a scribe

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Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie_Ogbuji

16:06:27 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a scribe

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Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose HarryH

16:06:30 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a scribe

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Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Murray_Maloney

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Zakim, pick a scribe

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Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Murray_Maloney

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Zakim, pick a scribe

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Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose FabienG

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Zakim, next item

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agendum 2. "Overview of Meeting" taken up

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RESOLVED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500, Fabien to scribe

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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39407/endgame/results

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+[IPcaller]

16:07:57 [briansuda]

Zakim, +IPcaller is briansuda

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sorry, briansuda, I do not recognize a party named '+IPcaller'

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yes

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4yes

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4 concur

16:08:58 [chimezie]

form like voltron

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+ +1.703.861.aabb

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Zakim, aabb is rreck

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+rreck; got it

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Zakim, next item

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agendum 3. "[#issue-http-header-links]" taken up

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oops

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Zakim, take up item 2

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agendum 2. "Overview of Meeting" taken up

16:10:33 [FabienG]

appologies my corporate calendar says I will not be available next week.; I have to send regrets for next telecon and scribe; I can scribe the 14th of March.

16:11:15 [DanC]

HH observes consensus for taking GRDDL spec to last call, with answers about other docs less clear...

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Zakim, next item

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agendum 3. "[#issue-http-header-links]" taken up

16:12:20 [DanC]

PROPOSED: Take out the HTTP links section of the spec (after the last-call review freeze is over) and postpone the issue, since a URI-based linking feature in HTTP such as the Profile header field is not yet stable/ratified/standardized

16:12:35 [DanC]

HH: issue is open

16:13:13 [HarryH]

Chime: Moved into a Note?

16:13:19 [HarryH]

Does anyone want to do that?

16:13:45 [DanC]

DanC: good idea, though I don't think it's the best use of my time.

16:14:01 [HarryH]

IanD - what do you feel about removing the headers from the spec and putting it in a note?

16:14:19 [HarryH]

iand?

16:14:22 [iand]

I will concur with the group

16:14:30 [rreck]

then its a yes

16:14:35 [iand]

yes

16:14:44 [HarryH]

Do you want to move it into a note?

16:14:56 [HarryH]

I.e. do the work of cutting and pasting it into a note?

16:14:59 [iand]

yes, but after other editing work :)

16:15:15 [DanC]

let's assign a low-priority action

16:15:17 [HarryH]

That's an ACTION but take your time with it...

16:15:35 [DanC]

ACTION: ianD draft a Note about the GRDDL http header link mechanism

16:15:44 [HarryH]

Zakim, who's on the phone?

16:15:44 [Zakim]

On the phone I see HarryH, Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney, [IPcaller], rreck

16:15:58 [HarryH]

Any objections to Dan's proposal from IRC?

16:16:04 [HarryH]

Going once...

16:16:06 [iand]

none from me

16:16:06 [DanC]

RESOLVED: Take out the HTTP links section of the spec and postpone the issue, since a URI-based linking feature in HTTP such as the Profile header field is not yet

16:16:13 [briansuda]

Zakim, IPcaller is briansuda

16:16:13 [Zakim]

+briansuda; got it

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-Chimezie_Ogbuji

16:16:29 [DanC]

ACTION DanC: take out HTTP links section

16:16:55 [Zakim]

+Chimezie_Ogbuji

16:17:22 [rreck]

rreck needs education

16:18:22 [DanC]

Zakim, which agendum?

16:18:22 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "[#issue-http-header-links]" has been taken up, DanC

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Zakim, next item

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agendum 4. "GRDDL Spec: Last Call" taken up

16:18:39 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/sched7

16:23:01 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/test_results

16:23:07 [DanC]

^ start of impl report

16:25:25 [briansuda]

notes that April 7th is Easter, i don't think that would cause slips

16:25:45 [john-l]

(Isn't that the 8th?)

16:27:40 [DanC]

(there's the question of whether they're urgent/necessary, and the question of whether they're straightforward or risky.)

16:32:52 [DanC]

PROPOSED: to take http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec 1.228 + edits agreed by 2 of {DanC, Murray, HarryH} to last call

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16:33:55 [bwm]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0243.html

16:33:59 [HarryH]

bwm wants specific responses for HP's comments

16:34:16 [DanC]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0243.html

16:41:51 [john-l]

GRDDL-aware GRDDL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0211.html

16:49:38 [HarryH]

PROPOSED: to take http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec 1.228 + edits agreed by 2 of {DanC, Murray, HarryH} to last call

16:49:56 [HarryH]

Zakim, who's on the phone?

16:49:56 [Zakim]

On the phone I see HarryH, john-l, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney, briansuda, rreck, Chimezie_Ogbuji

16:50:04 [briansuda]

yes

16:50:06 [iand]

yes

16:50:07 [rreck]

yes

16:50:20 [HarryH]

bwm: Fixing IRIs?

16:50:32 [HarryH]

Will press for making sure IRIs are fixed.

16:50:47 [HarryH]

Consensus

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so RESOLVED.

16:51:26 [DanC]

ACTION DanC: take a look at HP IRI comment, murray's comments, and coordinate with Murray and Harry

16:51:38 [DanC]

ACTION DanC: request LC publication

16:51:54 [DanC]

ACTION HarryH: announce last call to peer chairs when it hits /TR/

16:52:09 [HarryH]

Well, microformats community

16:52:17 [chimezie]

healthcare life sciences..

16:52:23 [DanC]

ACTION Harry: announce to semantic-web@w3.org

16:53:22 [HarryH]

ACTION: BrianS to announce to microformat community

16:53:27 [HarryH]

Claps hands

16:53:39 [DanC]

queue=

16:54:07 [DanC]

bwm: jjc gives a thumbs up. well done.

16:54:10 [DanC]

Zakim, next item

16:54:10 [Zakim]

agendum 5. "Primer Document: Last Call?" taken up

16:55:24 [DanC]

poll shows some in favor, some opposed, many concurs, and 1 abstain

16:56:13 [HarryH]

Even between "yes" and "no"

16:58:05 [DanC]

DanC: I'm inclined to publish the primer, but not as last call

16:58:33 [DanC]

Murray: yes, that's the way I read the survey... perhaps eventually, but not today

16:58:42 [Zakim]

-HarryH

16:59:04 [HarryH]

Sorry just got knocked off phone...

16:59:07 [HarryH]

be back in a sec..

17:00:30 [Zakim]

+HarryH

17:01:33 [chimezie]

that's not helping

17:01:35 [DanC]

Zakim, mute harryh

17:01:36 [Zakim]

HarryH should now be muted

17:02:08 [DanC]

DanC: how about making a WD decision today?

17:02:12 [DanC]

Chime: pending certain edits...

17:02:24 [DanC]

DanC: do we have an editor to discuss them? hmm... IanD is only on IRC

17:02:33 [DanC]

... perhaps best to take it up next week?

17:02:48 [DanC]

done? # ACTION: HarryH to check those primer fixes in.

17:02:50 [chimezie]

I recall Harry had suggested an additional editor (perhaps) to help with the Primer...

17:03:13 [DanC]

ACTION: HarryH to check those primer fixes in. [CONTINUES]

17:03:27 [DanC]

[DONE] ACTION: Fabien to fix bug in RDFa Example. Primer now has working RDFa example

17:03:43 [DanC]

Zakim, next item

17:03:43 [Zakim]

agendum 6. "Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call?" taken up

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-HarryH

17:04:56 [Zakim]

+HarryH

17:05:09 [john-l]

Zakim, mute HarryH

17:05:09 [Zakim]

HarryH should now be muted

17:05:10 [DanC]

PROPOSED: to publish 1.77 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc43/scenario-gallery.htm + publication fixes as WD

17:06:11 [DanC]

DanC: status...

17:06:24 [Zakim]

-HarryH

17:06:32 [DanC]

ACTION BWM: propose status text for use cases (starting with commented-out stuff, perhaps)

17:07:05 [DanC]

so RESOLVED.

17:07:17 [Zakim]

+HarryH

17:07:48 [DanC]

ACTION DanC: to request publication of usecases/scenario-gallery

17:07:59 [DanC]

sometime in the next 2 weeks

17:08:14 [DanC]

Zakim, agenda?

17:08:14 [Zakim]

I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:

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6. Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call?

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7. Test Cases as Rec?

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8. Misc Test-Cases nominated for approval

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9. tests for [from #issue-mt-ns]

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10. tests for [from #issue-faithful-infoset]

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11. tests for [from #issue-base-param]

17:09:18 [DanC]

Zakim, take up item 7

17:09:18 [Zakim]

agendum 7. "Test Cases as Rec?" taken up

17:09:31 [DanC]

HH: how about somebody to just clarify which tests are approved?

17:11:18 [DanC]

Chime: I'm interested in the goal of taking the test cases to REC

17:11:37 [DanC]

DanC: anything in that direction is more than welcome; if you come up short of that goal, it'll still be appreciated

17:12:49 [DanC]

Murray: how about recruiting in the W3C QA IG?

17:12:55 [DanC]

DanC: somewhat risky, but interesting idea

17:14:18 [bwm]

request to be excused

17:15:11 [DanC]

ADJOURN.

17:15:20 [Zakim]

-bwm

17:15:31 [Zakim]

-Chimezie_Ogbuji

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-john-l

17:17:46 [briansuda]

xtech 15-18 May 2007

17:19:50 [FabienG]

I will be there and I can help with a presentation.

17:20:23 [briansuda]

http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/schedule/detail/15

17:20:29 [briansuda]

Open Data in HTML: GRDDL, eRDF and RDFa

17:20:29 [briansuda]

Lee Feigenbaum (IBM), Elias Torres (IBM)

17:21:00 [briansuda]

http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/schedule/detail/121

17:21:01 [briansuda]

RSS Remixing

17:21:01 [briansuda]

Ian Davis (Talis)

17:21:30 [rreck]

http://www.wilshireconferences.com/MD2007/index.html

17:22:20 [briansuda]

http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/02/27-openid-uformats

17:23:18 [briansuda]

thinks last.fm is heading that way...

17:23:29 [rreck]

http://konf.oio.dk

17:24:22 [briansuda]

http://getsemantic.com/ is starting with lots of small getting start stuff

17:26:15 [Zakim]

-rreck

17:26:52 [iand]

briansuda - will you be at xtech?

17:26:56 [briansuda]

yes

17:27:00 [iand]

cool

17:28:37 [FabienG]

oops, I realise it was ambiguous, I meant I will be at WWW and I can help with a presentation there.

17:29:28 [briansuda]

http://upcoming.org/event/98844/ has a short list of people attending, dajobe is attending

17:30:10 [Zakim]

-Murray_Maloney

17:30:33 [Zakim]

-HarryH

17:30:36 [Zakim]

-DanC

17:30:38 [Zakim]

-briansuda

17:30:42 [Zakim]

-FabienG

17:30:45 [Zakim]

SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended

17:30:47 [Zakim]

Attendees were Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, HarryH, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney, +1.703.861.aabb, rreck, briansuda

17:32:38 [briansuda]

rrsagent draft minutes

17:32:44 [briansuda]

rssagent, draft minutes

17:32:55 [briansuda]

rrsagent, draft minutes

17:32:55 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html briansuda

17:45:37 [DanC]

RRSAgent, make logs world-access

17:48:47 [DanC]

Chair: HarryH

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20:16:19 [DanC]

hi Simone

20:16:24 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html <- draft in progress

20:17:05 [Simone]

Thanks Dan

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22:13:03 [rreck]

bye dan

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