16:00:57 RRSAgent has joined #grddl-wg 16:00:57 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-irc 16:01:00 HarryH has joined #grddl-wg 16:01:05 Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda 16:01:05 working on it, DanC 16:01:06 agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-02-28T11:00-0500 16:01:07 agendum 12 added 16:01:11 oops 16:01:11 Zakim, HarryH is aaaa 16:01:11 agenda+ Overview of Meeting 16:01:13 agendum 13 added 16:01:16 agenda+ [#issue-http-header-links] 16:01:19 agendum 14 added 16:01:21 agenda+ GRDDL Spec: Last Call 16:01:23 agendum 15 added 16:01:25 agenda+ Primer Document: Last Call? 16:01:31 agendum 16 added 16:01:37 agenda+ Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call? 16:01:39 agendum 17 added 16:01:41 agenda+ Test Cases as Rec? 16:01:43 agendum 18 added 16:01:45 agenda+ Misc Test-Cases nominated for approval 16:01:47 agendum 19 added 16:01:51 agenda+ tests for [#issue-mt-ns] 16:01:53 agendum 20 added 16:01:55 agenda+ tests for [#issue-faithful-infoset] 16:01:57 agendum 21 added 16:01:59 agenda+ tests for [#issue-base-param] 16:02:03 agendum 22 added 16:02:05 done reading agenda, DanC 16:02:07 sorry, john-l, I do not recognize a party named 'HarryH' 16:02:09 Zakim, clear agenda 16:02:13 Zakim, +1.919.668.aaaa is HarryH 16:02:22 Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda 16:02:23 agenda cleared 16:02:25 +HarryH; got it 16:02:29 +DanC 16:02:31 working on it, DanC 16:02:33 agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-02-28T11:00-0500 16:02:35 agendum 1 added 16:02:37 agenda+ Overview of Meeting 16:02:39 agendum 2 added 16:02:41 agenda+ [#issue-http-header-links] 16:02:43 agendum 3 added 16:02:45 agenda+ GRDDL Spec: Last Call 16:02:49 agendum 4 added 16:02:53 agenda+ Primer Document: Last Call? 16:02:57 agendum 5 added 16:02:59 agenda+ Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call? 16:03:01 agendum 6 added 16:03:03 agenda+ Test Cases as Rec? 16:03:07 agendum 7 added 16:03:09 agenda+ Misc Test-Cases nominated for approval 16:03:13 agendum 8 added 16:03:15 agenda+ tests for [#issue-mt-ns] 16:03:17 agendum 9 added 16:03:19 agenda+ tests for [#issue-faithful-infoset] 16:03:21 agendum 10 added 16:03:23 agenda+ tests for [#issue-base-param] 16:03:25 agendum 11 added 16:03:29 done reading agenda, DanC 16:03:31 +??P16 16:03:31 Zakim, take up item 1 16:03:33 +Jerome 16:03:37 Scribe: DanC 16:03:41 Meeting: GRDDL WG Weekly 16:03:47 agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-02-28T11:00-0500" taken up 16:03:48 Zakim, who's on the phone? 16:04:03 On the phone I see HarryH, Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, DanC, ??P16, Jerome 16:04:07 Zakim, ??p16 is bwm 16:04:17 +bwm; got it 16:04:25 PROPOSED: to approve GRDDL WG Weekly -- 21 Feb 2007 as a true record 16:04:33 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0204.html 16:04:49 so RESOLVED 16:04:51 zakim, Jerome is FabienG 16:05:05 +FabienG; got it 16:05:07 Zakim, who's on the phone? 16:05:21 +Murray_Maloney 16:05:31 On the phone I see HarryH, Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney 16:05:45 IanD on IRC 16:05:53 I am not on the phone 16:06:13 PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500. scribe volunteer? 16:06:13 PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500. scribe volunteer? 16:06:23 Zakim, pick a scribe 16:06:23 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie_Ogbuji 16:06:27 Zakim, pick a scribe 16:06:27 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose HarryH 16:06:30 Zakim, pick a scribe 16:06:30 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Murray_Maloney 16:06:36 Zakim, pick a scribe 16:06:36 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Murray_Maloney 16:06:37 Zakim, pick a scribe 16:06:38 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose FabienG 16:06:51 Zakim, next item 16:06:51 agendum 2. "Overview of Meeting" taken up 16:06:54 RESOLVED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500, Fabien to scribe 16:07:14 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39407/endgame/results 16:07:55 +[IPcaller] 16:07:57 Zakim, +IPcaller is briansuda 16:07:58 sorry, briansuda, I do not recognize a party named '+IPcaller' 16:08:08 yes 16:08:16 4yes 16:08:20 4 concur 16:08:58 form like voltron 16:09:14 + +1.703.861.aabb 16:09:39 Zakim, aabb is rreck 16:09:39 +rreck; got it 16:09:44 rreck has joined #grddl-wg 16:09:46 Zakim, next item 16:09:46 agendum 3. "[#issue-http-header-links]" taken up 16:09:48 oops 16:09:52 Zakim, take up item 2 16:09:52 agendum 2. "Overview of Meeting" taken up 16:10:33 appologies my corporate calendar says I will not be available next week.; I have to send regrets for next telecon and scribe; I can scribe the 14th of March. 16:11:15 HH observes consensus for taking GRDDL spec to last call, with answers about other docs less clear... 16:11:47 Zakim, next item 16:11:47 agendum 3. "[#issue-http-header-links]" taken up 16:12:20 PROPOSED: Take out the HTTP links section of the spec (after the last-call review freeze is over) and postpone the issue, since a URI-based linking feature in HTTP such as the Profile header field is not yet stable/ratified/standardized 16:12:35 HH: issue is open 16:13:13 Chime: Moved into a Note? 16:13:19 Does anyone want to do that? 16:13:45 DanC: good idea, though I don't think it's the best use of my time. 16:14:01 IanD - what do you feel about removing the headers from the spec and putting it in a note? 16:14:19 iand? 16:14:22 I will concur with the group 16:14:30 then its a yes 16:14:35 yes 16:14:44 Do you want to move it into a note? 16:14:56 I.e. do the work of cutting and pasting it into a note? 16:14:59 yes, but after other editing work :) 16:15:15 let's assign a low-priority action 16:15:17 That's an ACTION but take your time with it... 16:15:35 ACTION: ianD draft a Note about the GRDDL http header link mechanism 16:15:44 Zakim, who's on the phone? 16:15:44 On the phone I see HarryH, Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney, [IPcaller], rreck 16:15:58 Any objections to Dan's proposal from IRC? 16:16:04 Going once... 16:16:06 none from me 16:16:06 RESOLVED: Take out the HTTP links section of the spec and postpone the issue, since a URI-based linking feature in HTTP such as the Profile header field is not yet 16:16:13 Zakim, IPcaller is briansuda 16:16:13 +briansuda; got it 16:16:25 -Chimezie_Ogbuji 16:16:29 ACTION DanC: take out HTTP links section 16:16:55 +Chimezie_Ogbuji 16:17:22 rreck needs education 16:18:22 Zakim, which agendum? 16:18:22 agendum 3. "[#issue-http-header-links]" has been taken up, DanC 16:18:26 Zakim, next item 16:18:26 agendum 4. "GRDDL Spec: Last Call" taken up 16:18:39 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/sched7 16:23:01 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/test_results 16:23:07 ^ start of impl report 16:25:25 notes that April 7th is Easter, i don't think that would cause slips 16:25:45 (Isn't that the 8th?) 16:27:40 (there's the question of whether they're urgent/necessary, and the question of whether they're straightforward or risky.) 16:32:52 PROPOSED: to take http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec 1.228 + edits agreed by 2 of {DanC, Murray, HarryH} to last call 16:33:20 iand has joined #grddl-wg 16:33:55 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0243.html 16:33:59 bwm wants specific responses for HP's comments 16:34:16 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0243.html 16:41:51 GRDDL-aware GRDDL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0211.html 16:49:38 PROPOSED: to take http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec 1.228 + edits agreed by 2 of {DanC, Murray, HarryH} to last call 16:49:56 Zakim, who's on the phone? 16:49:56 On the phone I see HarryH, john-l, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney, briansuda, rreck, Chimezie_Ogbuji 16:50:04 yes 16:50:06 yes 16:50:07 yes 16:50:20 bwm: Fixing IRIs? 16:50:32 Will press for making sure IRIs are fixed. 16:50:47 Consensus 16:50:49 so RESOLVED. 16:51:26 ACTION DanC: take a look at HP IRI comment, murray's comments, and coordinate with Murray and Harry 16:51:38 ACTION DanC: request LC publication 16:51:54 ACTION HarryH: announce last call to peer chairs when it hits /TR/ 16:52:09 Well, microformats community 16:52:17 healthcare life sciences.. 16:52:23 ACTION Harry: announce to semantic-web@w3.org 16:53:22 ACTION: BrianS to announce to microformat community 16:53:27 Claps hands 16:53:39 queue= 16:54:07 bwm: jjc gives a thumbs up. well done. 16:54:10 Zakim, next item 16:54:10 agendum 5. "Primer Document: Last Call?" taken up 16:55:24 poll shows some in favor, some opposed, many concurs, and 1 abstain 16:56:13 Even between "yes" and "no" 16:58:05 DanC: I'm inclined to publish the primer, but not as last call 16:58:33 Murray: yes, that's the way I read the survey... perhaps eventually, but not today 16:58:42 -HarryH 16:59:04 Sorry just got knocked off phone... 16:59:07 be back in a sec.. 17:00:30 +HarryH 17:01:33 that's not helping 17:01:35 Zakim, mute harryh 17:01:36 HarryH should now be muted 17:02:08 DanC: how about making a WD decision today? 17:02:12 Chime: pending certain edits... 17:02:24 DanC: do we have an editor to discuss them? hmm... IanD is only on IRC 17:02:33 ... perhaps best to take it up next week? 17:02:48 done? # ACTION: HarryH to check those primer fixes in. 17:02:50 I recall Harry had suggested an additional editor (perhaps) to help with the Primer... 17:03:13 ACTION: HarryH to check those primer fixes in. [CONTINUES] 17:03:27 [DONE] ACTION: Fabien to fix bug in RDFa Example. Primer now has working RDFa example 17:03:43 Zakim, next item 17:03:43 agendum 6. "Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call?" taken up 17:04:05 -HarryH 17:04:56 +HarryH 17:05:09 Zakim, mute HarryH 17:05:09 HarryH should now be muted 17:05:10 PROPOSED: to publish 1.77 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc43/scenario-gallery.htm + publication fixes as WD 17:06:11 DanC: status... 17:06:24 -HarryH 17:06:32 ACTION BWM: propose status text for use cases (starting with commented-out stuff, perhaps) 17:07:05 so RESOLVED. 17:07:17 +HarryH 17:07:48 ACTION DanC: to request publication of usecases/scenario-gallery 17:07:59 sometime in the next 2 weeks 17:08:14 Zakim, agenda? 17:08:14 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda: 17:08:16 6. Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call? 17:08:18 7. Test Cases as Rec? 17:08:19 8. Misc Test-Cases nominated for approval 17:08:20 9. tests for [from #issue-mt-ns] 17:08:21 10. tests for [from #issue-faithful-infoset] 17:08:22 11. tests for [from #issue-base-param] 17:09:18 Zakim, take up item 7 17:09:18 agendum 7. "Test Cases as Rec?" taken up 17:09:31 HH: how about somebody to just clarify which tests are approved? 17:11:18 Chime: I'm interested in the goal of taking the test cases to REC 17:11:37 DanC: anything in that direction is more than welcome; if you come up short of that goal, it'll still be appreciated 17:12:49 Murray: how about recruiting in the W3C QA IG? 17:12:55 DanC: somewhat risky, but interesting idea 17:14:18 request to be excused 17:15:11 ADJOURN. 17:15:20 -bwm 17:15:31 -Chimezie_Ogbuji 17:15:35 -john-l 17:17:46 xtech 15-18 May 2007 17:19:50 I will be there and I can help with a presentation. 17:20:23 http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/schedule/detail/15 17:20:29 Open Data in HTML: GRDDL, eRDF and RDFa 17:20:29 Lee Feigenbaum (IBM), Elias Torres (IBM) 17:21:00 http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/schedule/detail/121 17:21:01 RSS Remixing 17:21:01 Ian Davis (Talis) 17:21:30 http://www.wilshireconferences.com/MD2007/index.html 17:22:20 http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/02/27-openid-uformats 17:23:18 thinks last.fm is heading that way... 17:23:29 http://konf.oio.dk 17:24:22 http://getsemantic.com/ is starting with lots of small getting start stuff 17:26:15 -rreck 17:26:52 briansuda - will you be at xtech? 17:26:56 yes 17:27:00 cool 17:28:37 oops, I realise it was ambiguous, I meant I will be at WWW and I can help with a presentation there. 17:29:28 http://upcoming.org/event/98844/ has a short list of people attending, dajobe is attending 17:30:10 -Murray_Maloney 17:30:33 -HarryH 17:30:36 -DanC 17:30:38 -briansuda 17:30:42 -FabienG 17:30:45 SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended 17:30:47 Attendees were Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, HarryH, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney, +1.703.861.aabb, rreck, briansuda 17:32:38 rrsagent draft minutes 17:32:44 rssagent, draft minutes 17:32:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 17:32:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html briansuda 17:45:37 RRSAgent, make logs world-access 17:48:47 Chair: HarryH 18:11:41 HarryH has joined #grddl-wg 19:08:38 HarryH has joined #grddl-wg 19:28:14 briansuda has joined #grddl-wg 20:08:36 Simone has joined #grddl-wg 20:16:19 hi Simone 20:16:24 http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html <- draft in progress 20:17:05 Thanks Dan 20:46:50 HarryH has joined #grddl-wg 22:13:03 bye dan 22:33:52 HarryH has joined #grddl-wg