IRC log of wai-wcag on 2007-02-22
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- RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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- zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, ben; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JanMar/0116.html
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- Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
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- Regrets: Roberto_Scano
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- agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- agenda+ 15 February 2007 Level Change Proposals <http://tinyurl.com/3ajqrj>
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- agenda+ Editors Survey for Feb 22 <http://tinyurl.com/2zzp27>
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- +Cooper
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- +[IBM]
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- zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- + +1.301.668.aaaa
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- +??P10
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- zakim, +1.301 is Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey; got it
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- +David_MacDonald
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- zakim, ??P10 is Gregg_and_Ben
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- +Gregg_and_Ben; got it
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- +Alex_Li
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- +??P12
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, ??P12 is Bengt_farre
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- +Bengt_farre; got it
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- +Becky_Gibson
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- Zakim, [IPcaller] is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- Zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero
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- Roberto_Ellero should now be muted
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +Don_Evans
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- zakim, IP is Sorcha_Moore
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- sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named 'IP'
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- zakim, IPCaller is Sorcha_Moore
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- +Sorcha_Moore; got it
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- 0.164SEK per minut ;)
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- zakim, mute me
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- Sorcha_Moore should now be muted
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- +??P19
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- zakim, unmute me
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- Sorcha_Moore should no longer be muted
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- Zakim, I am scribe
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- sorry, bruce_, I do not see a party named 'scribe'
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- agenda?
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- Scribe: Bruce_Bailey
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- take up item 1
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- scribeNick: bruce_
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- GV: Need to do Mobile Best Practice Comments. Loretta coordinating.
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- Regrets: Roberto Scano, John Slatin?
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- zakim, bruce_ is Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- Bruce_Bailey.a should now be muted
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- next item
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- zakim, take up item 2
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- agendum 2. "15 February 2007 Level Change Proposals <http://tinyurl.com/3ajqrj>" taken up [from ben]
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- zakim, mute me
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- Sorcha_Moore should now be muted
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- zakim, unmute me
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- zakim, mute me
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- Bruce_Bailey.a should now be muted
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- action: close anonymous consent: LC-1406, LC-1308, LC-1301, LC-1280, LC-1209, LC-1205, LC-1204, LC-1218, LC-1198, LC-1195, LC-1153, LC-1087, LC-1014, LC-982, LC-977, LC-965, LC-741, LC-1310
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- topic: 1289
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- s/action: close anonymous consent:/RESOLUTION: close anonymous consent:
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- rrsagent, drop action 1
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- +Sofia_Celic
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack me
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- zakim, beckally is Becky Gibson
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- I don't understand 'beckally is Becky Gibson', bruce_
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- zakim, I am Becky_Gibson
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- ok, becka11y, I now associate you with Becky_Gibson
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- ack bec
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- RESOLUTION: Close Issue 838, Issue 1289, SC 2.4.3 is moved to Level 1.
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- + +7.971.aabb
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- topic: SC 2.4.4
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- +Christophe_Strobbe.a
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- yes
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- zakim, I am Bruce_Bailey
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- ok, bruce_, I now associate you with Bruce_Bailey.a
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- q+
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- zakim, Bruce_Bailey.a is Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey; got it
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- q+
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- q+
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- zakim, unmute me
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- q+
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- q+ to say what about JavaScript links?
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- ack l
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- ack b
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- Bruce_Bailey, you wanted to say what about JavaScript links?
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- q+
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- ack me
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- zakim, mute me
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- Bruce_Bailey should now be muted
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack g
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- -??P19
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- ack a
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- q+
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- +q
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- zakim, mute tim
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- Tim_Boland should now be muted
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- q+
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- ack me
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- q+ to ask is Cynthia on the call?
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- ack b
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- Bruce_Bailey, you wanted to ask is Cynthia on the call?
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- +??P19
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- -Sorcha_Moore
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- Action: David M to add “mystery links” in HtM.
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- RESOLUTION: Close Issue 872 as amended (rational added). This SC has been moved to level 1 because without it, it requires significantly greater effort (and keystrokes) for assistive technology users to determine link context. This item may be moved back to level 2 if it is determined that it causes pages to fail at level 1 that are, in fact, accessible.
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- Topic: SC 2.4.5; Issue 839, Issue 841, Issue 1052, Issue 1289
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- RESOLUTION: SC 2.4.5 is promoted to Level 2. Change intent section to reflect provision which does not require “uniqueness” (2.4.5 and G130). Referred back to Team B for language to close language on issues 839, 841, 1052, 1289.
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- Topic: SC 2.4.6; Issue 628, Issue 942, Issue 1053
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- -Don_Evans
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- q+
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- q+
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- zakim, ??P19 is Cynthia
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- +Cynthia; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- Bruce_Bailey should now be muted
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- q+
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- ack g
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- ack ?
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- ack D
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- q+
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- zakim, P19 is Cynthia_Shelly
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- sorry, bruce_, I do not recognize a party named 'P19'
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- +q
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- ack g
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- zakim, who is on call
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- I don't understand 'who is on call', bruce_
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- zakim, ??P19 is Cynthia_Shelly
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- I already had ??P19 as Cynthia, ben_
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- zakim, who is on the phone
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- I don't understand 'who is on the phone', bruce_
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- On the phone I see Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey (muted), Gregg_and_Ben, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_farre, Roberto_Ellero (muted), Becky_Gibson,
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- ... Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland (muted), Cynthia
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- q+
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- ack s
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- ack l
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- +q
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- zakim, unmute me
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- Bruce_Bailey should no longer be muted
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- ack s
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack l
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- zakim, who's banging dishes
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- I don't understand 'who's banging dishes', David_MacDonald
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- ack d
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- ack c
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- +John_Slatin
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- RESOLUTION: Close 1054 as proposed.
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- Topic: SC 2.4.8; issues 473, 712, 944, 1056
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- RESOLUTION: Close issues 473, 712, 944, 1056 as proposed. SC 2.4.8 remains at Level 3.
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- RESOLUTION: Close issue 1321 as proposed.
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- Topic: SC 2.5.4; issues 1058 & 1143
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- RESOLUTION: Close issues 1058 and 1143 as amended. (Dropped last sentence.)
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- Topic: SC 3.1.3; issue 945
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- RESOLUTION: Close issue 945 as amended (minor typo corrected). SC 3.1.3 Remains at Level 3.
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- 1058
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- Topic: SC 3.1.4; issue 1059
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- -Tim_Boland
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- q+
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- ack l
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- q+
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- zakim, mute me
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- Bruce_Bailey should now be muted
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- ack a
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- ack j
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- q+
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- q+ to ask if applicable to all content?
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- zakim, unmute me
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- Bruce_Bailey should no longer be muted
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- q+
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- q+
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- Bruce_Bailey, you wanted to ask if applicable to all content?
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- ack d
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- q+
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- Action: 1059 referred to Loretta, John, and Alex.
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- Topic: SC 3.1.5, issues 569 & 887
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- RESOLUTION: Close issues 569 and 887 as amended (minor edits). SC 3.1.5 remains at Level 3.
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- Topic: SC 3.2.5, issue 1144 & 1068
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- RESOLUTION: Close issues 1144 and 1068 as amended. SC 3.2.5 remains at Level 3.
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- Topic: 2 or 3 levels, issue 1024 & 1026
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- RESOLUTION: Close issues 1024 and 1026 as amended (minor typo). Stay with three levels.
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- -Cynthia
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- Present: Michael_Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Ellero, Becky_Gibson, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly, John_Slatin
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- -Bengt_farre
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- -Becky_Gibson
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- -Alex_Li
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- -Cooper
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Sean_Hayes
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -John_Slatin
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- -Gregg_and_Ben
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, +1.301.668.aaaa, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Gregg_and_Ben, Alex_Li, Bengt_farre, Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Ellero,
- 23:03:25 [Zakim]
- ... Don_Evans, Sorcha_Moore, Sofia_Celic, +7.971.aabb, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Cynthia, John_Slatin
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: David M to add “mystery links” in HtM. [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-irc#T21-27-13
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- ACTION: Referred to Team B to work on wording for 2.4.6 that is acceptable at Level 1 or 2. Issues 628, 942, and 1053 left open. [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-irc#T22-11-42
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- ACTION: 1059 referred to Loretta, John, and Alex. [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-irc#T22-54-26
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- zakim, bye
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