19:46:29 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:46:29 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-irc 19:46:34 RRSAgent, do not start a new log 19:46:43 RRSAgent, make log world 19:46:49 zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 19:46:49 ok, ben; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 14 minutes 19:46:57 Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon 19:47:04 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JanMar/0116.html 19:47:10 Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid 19:47:16 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 19:47:22 Regrets: Roberto_Scano 19:47:38 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 19:47:45 agenda+ 15 February 2007 Level Change Proposals 19:47:51 agenda+ Editors Survey for Feb 22 19:50:03 ben_ has joined #wai-wcag 19:52:13 judy_mit has left #wai-wcag 19:59:29 bruce_ has joined #wai-wcag 19:59:43 rellero_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:44 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started 20:00:46 +Cooper 20:00:50 +[IBM] 20:00:50 Loretta has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:56 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:07 zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver 20:01:07 +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it 20:01:25 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:01:46 + +1.301.668.aaaa 20:01:49 Gregg has joined #wai-wcag 20:02:04 +??P10 20:02:09 zakim, +1.301 is Bruce_Bailey 20:02:09 +Bruce_Bailey; got it 20:02:12 +David_MacDonald 20:02:14 zakim, ??P10 is Gregg_and_Ben 20:02:16 +Gregg_and_Ben; got it 20:02:25 +Alex_Li 20:02:42 +??P12 20:02:52 +[IPcaller] 20:02:57 David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:05 zakim, ??P12 is Bengt_farre 20:03:05 +Bengt_farre; got it 20:03:14 +Becky_Gibson 20:03:17 Zakim, [IPcaller] is Roberto_Ellero 20:03:17 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 20:03:24 becka11y has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:28 Zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero 20:03:28 Roberto_Ellero should now be muted 20:03:54 +[IPcaller] 20:04:01 +Don_Evans 20:04:09 zakim, IP is Sorcha_Moore 20:04:09 sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named 'IP' 20:04:14 zakim, IPCaller is Sorcha_Moore 20:04:14 +Sorcha_Moore; got it 20:04:35 0.164SEK per minut ;) 20:05:03 Sorcha has joined #wai-wcag 20:05:23 zakim, mute me 20:05:23 Sorcha_Moore should now be muted 20:06:25 +??P19 20:06:32 zakim, unmute me 20:06:32 Sorcha_Moore should no longer be muted 20:06:52 Zakim, I am scribe 20:06:52 sorry, bruce_, I do not see a party named 'scribe' 20:07:21 agenda? 20:07:30 Scribe: Bruce_Bailey 20:07:30 take up item 1 20:07:59 scribeNick: bruce_ 20:08:04 GV: Need to do Mobile Best Practice Comments. Loretta coordinating. 20:08:33 Regrets: Roberto Scano, John Slatin? 20:09:14 zakim, bruce_ is Bruce_Bailey 20:09:14 +Bruce_Bailey; got it 20:09:19 zakim, mute me 20:09:19 Bruce_Bailey.a should now be muted 20:10:08 next item 20:10:26 zakim, take up item 2 20:10:26 agendum 2. "15 February 2007 Level Change Proposals " taken up [from ben] 20:10:55 zakim, mute me 20:10:55 Sorcha_Moore should now be muted 20:11:02 zakim, unmute me 20:11:02 Bruce_Bailey.a should no longer be muted 20:11:23 zakim, mute me 20:11:23 Bruce_Bailey.a should now be muted 20:12:04 action: close anonymous consent: LC-1406, LC-1308, LC-1301, LC-1280, LC-1209, LC-1205, LC-1204, LC-1218, LC-1198, LC-1195, LC-1153, LC-1087, LC-1014, LC-982, LC-977, LC-965, LC-741, LC-1310 20:12:37 topic: 1289 20:13:21 s/action: close anonymous consent:/RESOLUTION: close anonymous consent: 20:13:26 rrsagent, drop action 1 20:16:13 Sofia has joined #wai-wcag 20:16:58 +Sofia_Celic 20:18:32 q+ 20:19:05 q+ 20:19:37 ack me 20:21:07 zakim, beckally is Becky Gibson 20:21:07 I don't understand 'beckally is Becky Gibson', bruce_ 20:21:51 zakim, I am Becky_Gibson 20:21:51 ok, becka11y, I now associate you with Becky_Gibson 20:21:57 ack bec 20:23:03 RESOLUTION: Close Issue 838, Issue 1289, SC 2.4.3 is moved to Level 1. 20:23:44 + +7.971.aabb 20:24:04 topic: SC 2.4.4 20:24:08 Christophe has joined #wai-wcag 20:26:23 sean has joined #wai-wcag 20:26:55 +Christophe_Strobbe.a 20:27:12 yes 20:28:34 zakim, I am Bruce_Bailey 20:28:34 ok, bruce_, I now associate you with Bruce_Bailey.a 20:28:42 q+ 20:28:53 zakim, Bruce_Bailey.a is Bruce_Bailey 20:28:53 +Bruce_Bailey; got it 20:30:18 q+ 20:31:14 q+ 20:31:19 ack l 20:32:16 ack d 20:33:39 q+ 20:33:55 q+ 20:34:17 ack g 20:34:20 ack b 20:34:59 ack l 20:35:05 q+ 20:35:07 q+ 20:35:35 ack g 20:35:35 q+ 20:35:39 ack a 20:35:44 ack l 20:36:09 q+ 20:36:44 ack d 20:39:06 ack a 20:39:06 q+ 20:39:31 q- 20:40:11 ack l 20:40:16 q+ 20:41:02 ack d 20:42:49 zakim, unmute me 20:42:49 Bruce_Bailey should no longer be muted 20:42:50 q+ 20:43:33 q+ to say what about JavaScript links? 20:43:46 ack l 20:45:04 ack b 20:45:04 Bruce_Bailey, you wanted to say what about JavaScript links? 20:45:18 q+ 20:45:41 ack me 20:45:50 zakim, mute me 20:45:50 Bruce_Bailey should now be muted 20:48:10 q+ 20:48:42 q+ 20:48:48 ack g 20:49:08 ack L 20:50:11 ack d 20:52:46 +Tim_Boland 20:53:14 Tim has joined #wai-wcag 20:59:23 zakim, unmute me 20:59:23 Bruce_Bailey should no longer be muted 21:01:14 -??P19 21:03:50 ack a 21:05:02 q+ 21:05:42 ack l 21:07:11 +q 21:09:00 ack s 21:15:02 zakim, mute tim 21:15:02 Tim_Boland should now be muted 21:17:50 q+ 21:18:15 ack me 21:18:36 q+ to ask is Cynthia on the call? 21:21:01 ack b 21:21:01 Bruce_Bailey, you wanted to ask is Cynthia on the call? 21:23:34 +??P19 21:24:15 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 21:25:30 Sorcha has left #wai-wcag 21:26:41 -Sorcha_Moore 21:27:13 Action: David M to add “mystery links” in HtM. 21:31:26 RESOLUTION: Close Issue 872 as amended (rational added). This SC has been moved to level 1 because without it, it requires significantly greater effort (and keystrokes) for assistive technology users to determine link context. This item may be moved back to level 2 if it is determined that it causes pages to fail at level 1 that are, in fact, accessible. 21:31:58 Topic: SC 2.4.5; Issue 839, Issue 841, Issue 1052, Issue 1289 21:49:59 RESOLUTION: SC 2.4.5 is promoted to Level 2. Change intent section to reflect provision which does not require “uniqueness” (2.4.5 and G130). Referred back to Team B for language to close language on issues 839, 841, 1052, 1289. 21:50:30 Topic: SC 2.4.6; Issue 628, Issue 942, Issue 1053 21:52:25 -Don_Evans 21:54:31 q+ 21:55:28 ack l 21:56:15 q+ 21:56:32 ack d 21:57:09 ack a 21:57:23 q+ 21:59:12 zakim, ??P19 is Cynthia 21:59:12 +Cynthia; got it 21:59:40 zakim, mute me 21:59:40 Bruce_Bailey should now be muted 22:01:20 q+ 22:01:31 ack g 22:01:35 ack ? 22:01:48 ack D 22:01:50 q+ 22:02:05 zakim, P19 is Cynthia_Shelly 22:02:05 sorry, bruce_, I do not recognize a party named 'P19' 22:02:06 +q 22:02:12 ack g 22:02:25 zakim, who is on call 22:02:25 I don't understand 'who is on call', bruce_ 22:02:42 zakim, ??P19 is Cynthia_Shelly 22:02:42 I already had ??P19 as Cynthia, ben_ 22:02:50 zakim, who is on the phone 22:02:50 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', bruce_ 22:03:04 zakim, who is on the phone? 22:03:04 On the phone I see Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey (muted), Gregg_and_Ben, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_farre, Roberto_Ellero (muted), Becky_Gibson, 22:03:08 ... Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland (muted), Cynthia 22:04:34 q+ 22:04:39 ack s 22:04:41 ack l 22:07:21 +q 22:08:25 zakim, unmute me 22:08:25 Bruce_Bailey should no longer be muted 22:08:36 ack s 22:09:02 q+ 22:09:10 q+ 22:10:09 ack l 22:10:47 zakim, who's banging dishes 22:10:47 I don't understand 'who's banging dishes', David_MacDonald 22:11:07 ack d 22:11:42 ack c 22:15:25 +John_Slatin 22:17:01 RESOLUTION: Close 1054 as proposed. 22:17:10 jslatin has joined #wai-wcag 22:17:25 Topic: SC 2.4.8; issues 473, 712, 944, 1056 22:19:29 RESOLUTION: Close issues 473, 712, 944, 1056 as proposed. SC 2.4.8 remains at Level 3. 22:20:01 RESOLUTION: Close issue 1321 as proposed. 22:20:22 Topic: SC 2.5.4; issues 1058 & 1143 22:20:55 RESOLUTION: Close issues 1058 and 1143 as amended. (Dropped last sentence.) 22:21:12 Topic: SC 3.1.3; issue 945 22:21:47 RESOLUTION: Close issue 945 as amended (minor typo corrected). SC 3.1.3 Remains at Level 3. 22:21:54 1058 22:22:14 Topic: SC 3.1.4; issue 1059 22:22:24 -Tim_Boland 22:24:01 q+ 22:24:23 ack l 22:24:24 q+ 22:25:50 zakim, mute me 22:25:50 Bruce_Bailey should now be muted 22:26:04 ack a 22:27:43 ack j 22:28:18 Andi has left #wai-wcag 22:31:14 -Andi_Snow-Weaver 22:31:16 q+ 22:31:51 ack d 22:31:52 q+ 22:32:05 q+ 22:33:02 ack s 22:35:33 ack g 22:37:23 ack j 22:41:43 q+ 22:42:10 ack l 22:45:16 ack c 22:45:18 q+ to ask if applicable to all content? 22:45:25 zakim, unmute me 22:45:25 Bruce_Bailey should no longer be muted 22:46:09 q+ 22:46:52 q+ 22:48:40 ack b 22:48:40 Bruce_Bailey, you wanted to ask if applicable to all content? 22:49:12 ack d 22:49:31 q+ 22:50:00 ack a 22:50:43 ack l 22:52:47 ack g 22:52:49 ack c 22:54:26 Action: 1059 referred to Loretta, John, and Alex. 22:54:33 Topic: SC 3.1.5, issues 569 & 887 22:55:14 RESOLUTION: Close issues 569 and 887 as amended (minor edits). SC 3.1.5 remains at Level 3. 22:55:39 Topic: SC 3.2.5, issue 1144 & 1068 22:58:03 -Roberto_Ellero 22:58:27 RESOLUTION: Close issues 1144 and 1068 as amended. SC 3.2.5 remains at Level 3. 22:58:34 Topic: 2 or 3 levels, issue 1024 & 1026 23:00:40 RESOLUTION: Close issues 1024 and 1026 as amended (minor typo). Stay with three levels. 23:01:07 -Cynthia 23:02:12 Present: Michael_Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Ellero, Becky_Gibson, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly, John_Slatin 23:02:39 -Bengt_farre 23:02:45 -Becky_Gibson 23:02:46 -Alex_Li 23:02:48 -Cooper 23:02:49 -Sofia_Celic 23:02:50 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 23:02:52 -Sean_Hayes 23:02:53 -Christophe_Strobbe 23:02:54 -John_Slatin 23:02:55 -Gregg_and_Ben 23:02:56 -David_MacDonald 23:03:19 -Bruce_Bailey 23:03:20 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 23:03:22 Attendees were Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, +1.301.668.aaaa, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Gregg_and_Ben, Alex_Li, Bengt_farre, Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Ellero, 23:03:25 ... Don_Evans, Sorcha_Moore, Sofia_Celic, +7.971.aabb, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Cynthia, John_Slatin 23:03:32 becka11y has left #wai-wcag 23:03:44 RRSAgent, bye 23:03:44 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 23:03:44 ACTION: David M to add “mystery links” in HtM. [2] 23:03:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-irc#T21-27-13 23:03:44 ACTION: Referred to Team B to work on wording for 2.4.6 that is acceptable at Level 1 or 2. Issues 628, 942, and 1053 left open. [3] 23:03:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-irc#T22-11-42 23:03:44 ACTION: 1059 referred to Loretta, John, and Alex. [4] 23:03:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-wai-wcag-irc#T22-54-26 23:03:50 zakim, bye 23:03:50 Zakim has left #wai-wcag