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15:59:16 <ericP> zakim, this will be HCLS
15:59:16 <Zakim> ok, ericP; I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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16:00:51 <ericP> ericP has changed the topic to: HCLSIG Telecon -- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007Feb/0083
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16:01:31 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has now started
16:01:39 <Zakim> +Vipul_Kashyap
16:01:45 <Zakim> +Don_Doherty
16:01:45 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-617
16:01:51 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
16:01:53 <Zakim> +EricP
16:02:31 <Zakim> +??P21
16:02:37 <Zakim> +Olivier_Bodenreider
16:02:37 <chimezie> Zakim, who is on the phone
16:02:53 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', chimezie
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16:03:01 <Zakim> +Bill_Bug
16:03:09 <vipul> Zakim, who's on the call?
16:03:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vipul_Kashyap, Don_Doherty, EricP, ??P21, Olivier_Bodenreider, Bill_Bug
16:03:16 <ericP> Zakim, ??P21 is chimezie
16:03:18 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it
16:03:32 <Zakim> +Eric_Neumann
16:03:48 <ericP> Meeting: HCLSIG
16:04:19 <ericP> Chair: ericN
16:05:00 <ericP> Scribe: ericP
16:05:16 <Zakim> +Jim_Mcgurk
16:05:23 <ericP> Zakim, agenda?
16:05:23 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
16:05:54 <ericP> agenda + Convene, take roll, review record
16:05:54 <ericP> agenda + Propose next HCLS call Feb 22, 2007, nominate a scribe
16:05:54 <ericP> agenda + Vocabulary Versioning -- input from clinical terminology community (report from caBIG terminology panel with Harold Sobrig and Chris Shute)
16:05:57 <ericP> agenda + Task Update 
16:06:00 <ericP> agenda + Demo progress
16:06:03 <Don> Bill...can you post the url to the wiki page we were talking about?
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16:07:30 <Zakim> + +1.508.272.aaaa
16:07:33 <Zakim> +??P13
16:08:04 <jluciano2> joanne is in a library- i have a half hour before I have to return to the cath lab. I won't be speaking
16:08:11 <jluciano2> i just joined from skype
16:08:11 <jluciano2> hi
16:08:27 <jluciano2> i don't know
16:08:33 <jluciano2> hi pam
16:08:47 <ericP> Zakim, +1.508.272.aaaa is Pam
16:08:47 <Zakim> +Pam; got it
16:08:48 <jluciano2> pam is from Arity
16:09:00 <ericP> Zakim, ??P13 is Joanne
16:09:00 <Zakim> +Joanne; got it
16:09:02 <Zakim> +Alan
16:10:03 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-minutes last weeks minutes
16:10:38 <Zakim> +Susie_Stephens
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16:11:25 <jluciano2> second
16:11:52 <chimezie> Zakim, who's on the call?
16:11:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vipul_Kashyap, Don_Doherty, EricP, chimezie, Olivier_Bodenreider, Bill_Bug, Eric_Neumann, Jim_Mcgurk, Pam, Joanne, Alan, Susie_Stephens
16:11:57 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 1
16:11:57 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review record" taken up [from ericP]
16:12:27 <ericP> PROPOSED: accept minutes from last week as a true record
16:12:29 <ericP> APPROVED
16:12:49 <ericP> Zakim, take up next agendum
16:12:49 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, ericP
16:12:53 <jluciano2> she'd needed to be put under.  there was more blockage.  I go back upstairs at 11:30, she's in the midst of it now. Christopher is here by my side.
16:12:55 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 2
16:12:55 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Propose next HCLS call Feb 22, 2007, nominate a scribe" taken up [from ericP]
16:13:16 <ericP> ericN: will be absent next week
16:13:39 <ericP> ... next meeting will be 22 Feb if Tonya can chair
16:13:52 <vipul> http://DetailedClinicalModels.org
16:14:31 <vipul> Led by Stan Huff from Intermountain Healthcare
16:15:00 <ericP> ericN: pharma and clinical trials folks not engaged with http://DetailedClinicalModels.org
16:15:37 <BillBug> http://www.detailedclinicalmodels.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
16:16:03 <ericP> vipul: main player is Stan Huff from Intermountain Healthcare. this person would be a good contact
16:16:29 <BillBug> DCM PubMed reference - PMID: 15360974
16:17:12 <BillBug> Integrating detailed clinical models into application development tools.
16:17:14 <BillBug> Huff SM, Rocha RA, Coyle JF, Narus SP
16:17:16 <BillBug> Medinfo. 2004;11(Pt 2):1058-62
16:17:43 <ericP> ACTION: vipul to invite Stan Huff to present his work to this group
16:17:57 <BillBug> VP: Represent in XML Schema now - Partners & Alan Rector working with them on OWL representation
16:18:35 <ericP> Zakim, take up egendum 3
16:18:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up egendum 3', ericP
16:18:46 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 3
16:18:46 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Vocabulary Versioning -- input from clinical terminology community (report from caBIG terminology panel with Harold Sobrig and Chris Shute)" taken up [from ericP]
16:19:47 <BillBug> I'm working directly on this issue with BIRNLex & OBI - working with NCBO, too.  I've also got an ongoing discussion with Gilberto Fragoso at NCICB who works on NCIT. 
16:19:48 <ericP> ericP: any member of the IG may be an editor
16:20:00 <jluciano2> I'm interested in the Editing work, I've just been busy and not been able to cycle around to getting back on this.
16:20:03 <ericP> ericN: person needs to be engaged and committed
16:20:37 <jluciano2> right, and because at this moment I've not been able to commit...
16:20:43 <ericP> ericN: [caBIG terminology panel report]
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16:21:13 <ericP> ... acknowledged importance of using OWL
16:21:27 <BillBug> q+
16:21:33 <alanr> is this same as earlier call for SWD vocabulary management editor?
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16:21:36 <jluciano2> Was anyone able to get an idea of how much time commitment would be necesssary and over what period of time???
16:21:55 <alanr> q+
16:22:40 <ericP> ... find editor and group for semweb versioning of ontologies
16:22:51 <BillBug> q+
16:22:57 <ericP> ... would like to get Harold ... involved
16:23:02 <eneumann2> ack BillBug
16:23:10 <ericP> vipul: Daniel Reuben?
16:23:22 <ericP> ericN: already committed
16:23:22 <eneumann2> s/Reuben/Rubin
16:24:09 <ericP> BillBug: what's the role of SKOS here?
16:25:03 <ericP> ericN: ??? is already connected
16:25:11 <eneumann2> ack alanr
16:25:20 <ericP> alanr: same as earlier call for SWD editor?
16:25:33 <chimezie> q+
16:25:33 <ericP> ... trying to get idea of scope
16:26:03 <ericP> ... suggest someone from opie (SP?)
16:26:31 <vipul> not opie, but OBI -- Open Biomedical Initiative?
16:26:49 <ericP> s/opie/OBI/ # tx vipul
16:26:57 <BillBug> As AR said, OBI & GO are working together on issues related to version.
16:27:06 <ericP> alanr: may have volunteer depending on scope
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16:28:04 <ericP> ... reluctant myself due to growing committments
16:29:13 <BillBug> q+
16:29:33 <ericP> ericN: not satisfied with Ivan's response on this?
16:30:07 <Zakim> -Pam
16:30:39 <eneumann2> ack chimizie
16:30:42 <ericP> ACTION: ericN to give a job description of editor's role for ??? document
16:30:56 <jluciano2> i have to sign off now.
16:31:03 <jluciano2> take care everyone.
16:31:12 <ericP> chimezie: versioning is a bottleneck for ???
16:31:27 <chimezie> it is in the critical path of ontology development work we are doing at CCF
16:31:29 <eneumann2> ack BillBug
16:32:11 <Zakim> -Joanne
16:32:21 <ericP> BillBug: this doc is vocab versioning in generral, but you [ericN] want a conduit from HCLS?
16:32:45 <ericP> Zakim, take up next agendum
16:32:45 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, ericP
16:32:51 <ericP> q?
16:32:59 <vipul> q+
16:33:16 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 4
16:33:16 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Task Update" taken up [from ericP]
16:33:19 <chimezie> ack chimezie
16:33:47 <ericP> vipul: 1? 2? 3: will give presentation on brain form ontologies
16:34:31 <ericP> ... docs from AMS meeting: ??? and best practices
16:34:37 <ericP> ... no draft available
16:35:16 <ericP> ericN: would like everyone to put up their working drafts, no matter how rough
16:36:33 <ericP> ACTION: all coordinators (ericN, vipul, susie, chen, AJ) to post links to draft wiki pages to the list
16:36:50 <alanr> q+
16:37:03 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 5
16:37:03 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Demo progress" taken up [from ericP]
16:37:39 <ericP> Susie: vipul and I holding join BioOnt/BioRDF to coordinate demo
16:38:09 <ericP> ... outstanding action to write up scientific side of parkinsons and alzheimers use cases
16:38:44 <ericP> ... action on John Barkley to document advantages of RDF
16:39:12 <ericP> ... after that, can work on connecting the use cases
16:39:20 <ericP> ... propose informal hacking sessions
16:39:43 <ericP> ericN: F2Fs best informal
16:39:53 <ericP> ... cannot be an [official] HCLS f2f
16:41:57 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=38539 HCLS Working Group membership page
16:42:29 <alanr> imo bb should be ie
16:42:44 <alanr> make it so :)
16:43:36 <Susie> +1
16:43:45 <alanr> http://www.w3.org/2004/08/invexp
16:44:28 <vipul> +1
16:44:31 <ericP> ACTION: BillBug to fill out IE form
16:46:40 <alanr> q+
16:46:45 <ericP> ACTION: Susie, vipul to organize demo hacking session
16:46:46 <vipul> +1\
16:46:51 <vipul> q+
16:46:57 <eneumann2> ack alanr
16:47:50 <ericP> alanr: need to immediately roust (SP?) other parties from outside of BioOnt/BioRDF
16:47:58 <ericP> q?
16:48:10 <Susie> q+
16:48:13 <ericP> vipul, do you still intend to be on the queue?
16:48:17 <vipul> yes
16:50:03 <ericP> Susie: reallistic demo core likely to be discussed on monday
16:50:23 <ericP> ... more stuff can be added to the demo, reallistically, for after WWW
16:51:06 <ericP> ericN: pfizer has contributed data
16:51:40 <alanr> Action: Eric will discuss tox data with Alan when we meet
16:52:21 <ericP> vipul: someone from DSC should participate on Monday so that the demo includes this data (above the data simply merging)
16:53:36 <alanr> +1
16:53:55 <ericP> q?
16:53:58 <alanr> SW gathering is 1 month away. Would be better to meet in next week or two
16:54:06 <eneumann2> ack alanr
16:54:23 <Susie> q-
16:54:43 <ericP> alanr: [summary or where things are and what's required]
16:55:03 <alanr> prefuse.org
16:55:19 <ericP> ... suggested on Monday that interested parties to look at the galleries on http://prefuse.org/
16:55:27 <ericP> ... am using that toolkit
16:55:49 <eneumann2> also look at ... http://simile.mit.edu/exhibit/
16:56:08 <ericP> ... can link from a gene to all the images for that gene
16:56:20 <Zakim> -chimezie
16:56:43 <eneumann2> Rob Williams has offered to get m-birn  mouse gene expression data for us
16:56:53 <ericP> perhaps http://perfuse.org/
16:57:22 <eneumann2> .... Mark Ellisman (BIRN) has offered to direct 2 people from BIRN to help us where possible
16:57:36 <ericP> alanr: access to ontologies, eg. brain anatome, nerve receptors...
16:58:00 <ericP> ... may need to construct small ontology of ...
16:58:25 <ericP> ... bit of the demo can work on communications of synapses
16:58:39 <BillBug> q+
16:58:45 <ericP> q+ to suggest assigning grocery list to the folks here
16:59:37 <vipul> q-
17:00:04 <Zakim> -Jim_Mcgurk
17:00:12 <BillBug> We've been accumulating distilled/structured knolwedge sources for all the domains AR asked for on the BIoONT wiki
17:00:22 <ericP> alanr: i'll try to post this to the list to the IG list
17:01:04 <BillBug> for Synapses: see PMID 17098931
17:01:06 <BillBug> SynDB: a Synapse protein DataBase based on synapse ontology.
17:01:08 <BillBug> Includes synapse element ontology (SynO)
17:01:13 <ericP> alanr: would like to log SPARQL queries as the demo progress
17:01:43 <eneumann2> ack BillBug
17:01:56 <ericP> ACTION: alanr to mail his grocery list to the IG mailing list
17:02:12 <ericP> BillBug: most of those groceries are already in the wiki
17:02:27 <ericP> ... would be compelling to show genset images
17:03:11 <alanr> the allen data has cross pointers to gensat. 
17:03:28 <ericP> s/genset/gensat/
17:03:48 <vipul> Alan: Can you help define the synapse ontology task better?
17:03:49 <alanr> Action: Eric, BB, Alan TC to talk about what to ask from BIRN
17:04:07 <vipul> May be some one from BIONT can pick it up?
17:04:16 <alanr> Let's talk on monday
17:04:44 <vipul> OK...
17:05:17 <Zakim> -Susie_Stephens
17:05:19 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap
17:05:20 <Zakim> -Bill_Bug
17:05:22 <Zakim> -Alan
17:05:26 <Zakim> -Olivier_Bodenreider
17:05:28 <Zakim> -Eric_Neumann
17:05:34 <Zakim> -Don_Doherty
17:05:39 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:05:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html ericP
17:05:46 <Zakim> -EricP
17:05:48 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
17:05:50 <Zakim> Attendees were Vipul_Kashyap, Don_Doherty, EricP, Olivier_Bodenreider, Bill_Bug, chimezie, Eric_Neumann, Jim_Mcgurk, Pam, Joanne, Alan, Susie_Stephens
17:05:53 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make log world-readable
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