IRC log of i18nits on 2007-02-14

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meeting: i18n ITS Working Group

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chair: Yves

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scribe: Felix

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scribeNick: fsasaki

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0104.html

14:48:00 [fsasaki]

hi YvesS

14:48:31 [YvesS]

hi Felix

14:49:46 [fsasaki]

Do you have time tomorrow to look into a draft for a transition request mail?

14:50:22 [YvesS]

sure

14:50:37 [fsasaki]

great, tx

14:51:36 [fsasaki]

I did not made the update to the changelog yet, so I'd propose to say "we vote for transition to PR, given the change log update". is that fine with you?

14:51:57 [YvesS]

yes. no problem.

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I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started

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+Yves_Savourel

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+Stefan_Schnabel

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+ +7.476.70.aaaa

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zakim, aaaa is Jirka

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+Jirka; got it

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zakim, who is here?

15:04:39 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Yves_Savourel, Stefan_Schnabel, Jirka

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On IRC I see chriLi, rahtz, Jirka, RRSAgent, YvesS, Zakim, fsasaki

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zakim, Stefan_Schnabel is Felix

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+Felix; got it

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zakim, Felix is Christian

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+Christian; got it

15:05:18 [rahtz]

I cannot get in on the phone, either US or UK numbers

15:05:25 [fsasaki]

me too

15:06:04 [Jirka]

I have to try it twice to get in

15:06:11 [YvesS]

seems to work for us (1-617-761-6200)

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, who is here?

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On the phone I see Yves_Savourel, Christian, Jirka, Felix

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On IRC I see chriLi, rahtz, Jirka, RRSAgent, YvesS, Zakim, fsasaki

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+Sebastian_Rahtz

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regrets: Andrzej

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http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#integration-its-xhtmlmod

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topic: action items

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action: All to give feedback to Felix on the xhtmlmodularization section until Friday (DONE)

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action: Editors to update the changelog so that it contains links to bugzilla entries, not only AIs. (ONGOING)

15:08:58 [rahtz]

yes :-}

15:09:47 [fsasaki]

Felix: would be good to talk not of "conformance" test suite

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Christian: fine with me

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(document updated during the call)

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Yves: draft should now be complete except the changelog

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s/ONGOING/DONE/

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action: Yves to send the test suite files to Jirka, Jirka to validate them (DONE)

15:12:30 [fsasaki]

Yves: Jirka found some errors, I made the fixes. I'll send another mail for testing to Jirka

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.. documents have been regenerated. None of the changes effect the test suite.

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action: Felix to work on the section about XHTML modularization for the XML i18n BP document (ONGOING)

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http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/

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topic: test suite results

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Yves: we have two implementations for each feature now

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.. any further comments about changes in the spec?

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Sebastian: a bit worried about taking away the namespace from e.g. the attributes at ruby element

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s/ruby/e.g. ruby/

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Sebastian: does this break s.t., e.g. is it a noticable change?

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Yves: I had no problem with my implementation

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.. we put the pointer part of ruby "at risk" because it is not likely to be implemented widely

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Sebastian: our implementations demonstrate that it is possible

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Yves: I would people encourage to use Ruby anyway

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zakim, unmute felixskype

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zakim, mute felixskype

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topic: transition request

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Yves: we want to move from CR to PR, only updating the change log

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zakim, unmute felixskype

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zakim, mute felixskype

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Christian: what is left in the change log?

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Felix: merge some bugzilla issues which are doubles

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Yves: everybody fine with requesting to move to PR?

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zakim, unmute felixskype

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zakim, mute felixskype

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RESOLUTION: everybody agrees to request transition of ITS tagset draft to PR

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See http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-irc#T15-20-34

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topic: f2f meeting

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Yves: we have been looking at XTech

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.. but we don't have a room yet in Paris

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.. it would be the week of XTech

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Christian: SAP has an office in Paris, we might be able to use the location

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zakim, unmute felixskype

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zakim, mute felixskype

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current plan is f2f meeting in Paris, dates of 14 (Monday),15,16

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in May

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topic: AOB

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christian: about the activity until the f2f

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.. Yves and Felix have a transition call

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Yves: yes, next week

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Christian: what will the WG do after that?

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Yves: we will have a month after that waiting for feedback

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Felix: we continue to get feedback, esp. from the AC

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Yves: most of the f2f will be working on BP document

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.. hopefully by the end of march ITS will be a REC

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Christian: how about special outreach activities?

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Yves: nothing planned currently

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.. that is s.t. we can think about next month as well

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.. this was the shortest meeting we ever had! Thanks for helping getting to PR request

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-Sebastian_Rahtz

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-Christian

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-Jirka

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-Yves_Savourel

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-FelixSkype

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Attendees were Yves_Savourel, +7.476.70.aaaa, Jirka, Christian, [IPcaller], Sebastian_Rahtz, FelixSkype

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki

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rrsagent, make log public

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki

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I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: All to give feedback to Felix on the xhtmlmodularization section until Friday (DONE) [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-irc#T15-08-17

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ACTION: Editors to update the changelog so that it contains links to bugzilla entries, not only AIs. (ONGOING) [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-irc#T15-08-43

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ACTION: Yves to send the test suite files to Jirka, Jirka to validate them (DONE) [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-irc#T15-11-54

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ACTION: Felix to work on the section about XHTML modularization for the XML i18n BP document (ONGOING) [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-i18nits-irc#T15-13-34

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zakim, bye

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