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15:50:28 <ivan> Meeting: Semantic Web EO IG Telco
15:50:32 <ivan> Chair: Susie
15:51:00 <ivan> s/others/martin/
15:52:47 <kjetilk> hi! :-)
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15:58:18 <leobard> hi
15:58:23 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-home
15:58:24 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
15:58:27 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()11:00AM has now started
15:58:29 <Zakim> +Ivan
15:58:42 <ivan> good afternoon Leo
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15:59:47 <Zakim> + +1.781.744.aaaa
15:59:59 <kjetilk> zakim, code
16:00:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', kjetilk
16:00:02 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is susie
16:00:02 <Zakim> +susie; got it
16:00:06 <LeeF> zakim, code?
16:00:06 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), LeeF
16:00:15 <Zakim> +Wing_Yungo
16:00:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:00:32 <wing> great, Wing Yungo
16:00:34 <kjetilk> zakim, IPcaller is me
16:00:36 <Zakim> +LeeF
16:00:40 <Zakim> +kjetilk; got it
16:01:04 <kjetilk> zakim is rather strict when it comes to commands...
16:01:08 <Zakim> + +44.190.827.aabb
16:01:10 <Zakim> +??P13
16:01:18 <ivan> zakim, aabb is martin
16:01:19 <LeeF> yes, zakim is a harsh htaskmaster
16:01:26 <leobard> I just joined: leo sauermann
16:01:46 <Zakim> +??P12
16:01:56 <ivan> zakim, P13 is Dunja
16:02:00 <Zakim> +[LMU]
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16:02:04 <Zakim> +martin; got it
16:02:04 <leobard> how can we see more info about PXX ?
16:02:17 <LeeF> zakim, Wing_Yungo is wing
16:02:18 <Zakim> +Karen
16:02:20 <ivan> zakim, LMU is Paula
16:02:28 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'P13'
16:02:33 <Susie> regrets alistair, pasquale 
16:02:36 <ivan> zakim, ??P13 is Dunja
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16:02:55 <Dunitschka> zakim, Dunja is me
16:02:58 <Zakim> +wing; got it
16:03:09 <wing> thanks LeeF
16:03:16 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'LMU'
16:03:16 <kidehen> All: Regrets from Kingsely (kidehen) 
16:03:26 <Zakim> +Dunja; got it
16:03:38 <leobard> hi all, best greetings.
16:03:47 <kidehen> have to attend to a family emergency 
16:03:55 <LeeF> zakim, mute me please
16:03:58 <Zakim> +Dunitschka; got it
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16:04:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:04:49 <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted
16:05:01 <Zakim> +Orri_Erling
16:05:09 <Zakim> +??P38
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16:05:33 <ivan> zakim, ??P38 is benjamin
16:05:58 <leobard> i came, but 5 min ago
16:05:58 <uldis_> hi, apologies I can't participate in voice during the first 20 min
16:06:28 <Zakim> +benjamin; got it
16:07:04 <ivan> scribenick: bengee
16:07:58 <bengee> susie starts with action item recap
16:08:26 <bengee> .. pinging the DE/AT W3C office, no reply yet
16:08:37 <ivan> action: Susie to ping the w3c de/at office again
16:08:39 <bengee> ... re brochures for www2007
16:08:47 <Dunitschka> yea i did
16:09:17 <bengee> ...jeff
16:10:14 <leobard> bengee: Alistair Duke had an action item to sum up his use case
16:10:19 <bengee> .. alistair making progress on his use ase action item
16:11:04 <bengee> .. several case study contacts are being worked on (nokia?, ontotext, ..) 
16:11:34 <bengee> nxt: kjetil on community projects
16:12:02 <kjetilk> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData
16:12:04 <bengee> ... linked data got lots of cimmitments
16:12:14 <bengee> commitments even
16:12:16 <kjetilk> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/FOAFWhitelisting
16:12:32 <bengee> foaf whitelisting as well
16:12:42 <kjetilk> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/MediaWidgets
16:12:57 <bengee> .. a new one: media widgets 
16:12:59 <kjetilk> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/HistoryBookForTomorrow
16:13:48 <bengee>  e e a a e a a better now?
16:13:51 <bengee> ;)
16:14:22 <bengee> the 4 projects just pasted by kjetilk have commitments
16:15:34 <leobard> question asked: what should we do now given the projects at hand?
16:15:34 <bengee> ivan: asks for kjetil's next step plans
16:16:13 <leobard> kjetilk: the data projects are promising
16:16:14 <bengee> kjetilk: try to make projects proceed somehow, maybe give some exposure already
16:16:35 <ivan> q+
16:17:01 <bengee> susie: maybe the rest of the group could have a look at the list and collect some comments wrt chance to being successful etc
16:17:20 <leobard> susie: next week we can select which project we support
16:18:00 <kjetilk> q+
16:18:15 <bengee> ivan: linked data seems to have the largest impact, but may not really match the idea of convincing outsiders, as its more data oriented, not really app-focused
16:18:15 <leobard> ivan: the "linking open data" project's value is only for semantic web geeks. 
16:18:28 <LeeF> +1 to ivan's take on the projects
16:18:51 <bengee> ... on the other hand: an excellent project that may be a prerequisite for other ones
16:18:51 <ivan> ack ivan
16:18:57 <ivan> ack kjetilk
16:19:00 <leobard> ivan: we want to have several projects we give publicity
16:19:08 <leobard> ivan: not only one or two projects
16:19:10 <wing> nice, kjetilk
16:19:39 <bengee> kjetilk: agrees with ivan that his project is, without being biased, is more useful for the showing side
16:19:51 <bengee> ... ;)
16:20:20 <leobard> q+
16:20:22 <bengee> susie: there will probably a list of several projects (not just one)
16:20:30 <ivan> ack leo
16:20:32 <bengee> *be* a list of
16:20:44 <kjetilk> q+ to say that I might not be here next week
16:20:52 <bengee> leobard on info gathering TF
16:21:24 <kjetilk> +1
16:21:27 <bengee> ... adds a personal suggestion wrt to the community projects
16:21:30 <ivan> q+
16:21:46 <bengee> ... that the group creates some sort of voting
16:22:11 <ivan> q-
16:22:12 <bengee> ... maybe anonymously
16:22:31 <kjetilk> +1 for trusting Susie
16:22:38 <bengee> susie: maybe just send it to her and she will put it in a spreadsheet
16:22:52 <Zakim> +??P10
16:22:53 <PaulaP> q+
16:22:54 <bengee> ... general agreement
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16:23:10 <ivan> zakim, ??P10 is uldis
16:23:10 <Zakim> +uldis; got it
16:23:36 <bengee> leobard: not much progress on infogathering, but looks pretty done for the first step
16:24:16 <Zakim> +??P40
16:24:19 <PaulaP> q?
16:24:20 <bengee> ... will update the wiki pages and pings the list for a review
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16:24:43 <ivan> zakim, ??P40 is david
16:24:43 <Zakim> +david; got it
16:25:01 <ivan> ack kjetilk
16:25:01 <Zakim> kjetilk, you wanted to say that I might not be here next week
16:25:29 <bengee> Ivan and Kjetilk will probably not be available next week
16:25:44 <ivan> ack paula
16:26:20 <bengee> PaulaP: whether voting is one-per-person only
16:26:31 <bengee> susie: any input should be welcome
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16:27:11 <bengee> Karen ad wing on enterprise survey, candidates for use cases
16:27:35 <bengee> .. not much news, but positive feedback from within w3c so far
16:27:41 <bengee> (if I got that right)
16:28:36 <bengee> susie pinged several companies (pfizer?, agfa, ) for use case (or case studies?) examples
16:29:05 <bengee> agfa's jos has already written some things
16:29:15 <ivan> s/jos/joos de roe/
16:29:24 <leobard> susie: we received a use case description, but it was too scientific 
16:29:24 <bengee> .. could use that as a starting point
16:29:43 <LeeF> s/joos de roe/jos de roo/
16:30:42 <bengee> ... not response from DigitalHarbour yet
16:30:54 <bengee> .. ora lassila responded for nokia
16:31:12 <bengee> ... there is a project within nokia, but he'll have to forward the request
16:31:30 <ivan> q+
16:31:36 <bengee> .. BT
16:31:42 <bengee> ... EPA
16:32:08 <bengee> ... work that could be useful, would be interested
16:32:46 <bengee> ... in general: pretty positive feedback
16:32:49 <PaulaP> q+
16:33:38 <ivan> ack q+
16:33:42 <bengee> ... wants to make sure that the output is going to be tailored to groups like CIOs, CTOs, etc
16:33:44 <ivan> ack ivan
16:33:51 <LeeF> Joost
16:33:56 <bengee> Ivan suggests to add joost to the list
16:34:47 <PaulW> http://www.joost.com/
16:35:01 <PaulaP> q?
16:36:26 <kjetilk> http://opensource.joost.com/libb/
16:36:48 <kjetilk> libby miller
16:37:15 <uldis_> danbri is also working with asemantics
16:37:25 <kjetilk> q+
16:37:37 <ivan> ack paula
16:37:57 <bengee> action: bengee to find right person within joost to contact for use case / case study
16:38:14 <ivan> q+
16:38:38 <kjetilk> http://www.leosimons.com/2006/rdf-at-the-venice-project.html
16:38:44 <ivan> ack kjetilk
16:39:11 <Zakim> -david
16:39:26 <ivan> q-
16:39:39 <bengee> kjetilk: the practical problems they had could be interesting
16:39:46 <Zakim> +??P40
16:40:11 <ivan> zakim, ??P40 is Paulw
16:40:11 <Zakim> +Paulw; got it
16:40:16 <bengee> s/out/our/
16:40:53 <bengee> yeah
16:41:16 <bengee> susie: maybe dajobe from yahoo!
16:41:26 <bengee> .. swh from garlik
16:41:32 <leobard> susie: dajobe used rdf for the food website, thats a good use case
16:41:43 <leobard> q+ü
16:41:46 <leobard> q+
16:41:52 <bengee> heh
16:42:06 <bengee> next item: F2F in stavanger
16:42:47 <bengee> ... probably on the 23rd of april
16:43:40 <bengee> ... currently looking into accommodation etc
16:44:15 <bengee> Leobard asks for use case format
16:44:43 <bengee> Susie: rather high-level, maybe even "glossy-style"
16:45:07 <bengee> ... about 2 pages in length
16:45:14 <wing> +1 to millions of dollars
16:45:24 <bengee> ... "how the semweb made me rich"
16:45:53 <leobard> ontoware
16:48:10 <bengee> Leobard: maybe contact even more companies (e.g. vendors)
16:48:21 <bengee> next: AOB
16:48:51 <bengee> ... upcoming and past events
16:49:30 <bengee> ... interesting demos at cambridge meeting
16:50:47 <bengee> ... suggestion to move the call to some earlier time to better suit west coast US, and Asia
16:51:28 <bengee> ... and GRDDLers
16:51:33 <kjetilk> +1
16:51:35 <ivan> +1
16:51:36 <PaulaP> +1
16:51:39 <Karen> +1
16:51:41 <PaulW> +1
16:51:42 <bengee> +1 works for me
16:51:42 <wing> +1 , either way
16:51:43 <martind> +1
16:51:50 <PaulW> +2
16:51:51 <LeeF> 10am? so early!
16:52:03 <wing> sorry, LeeF
16:52:37 <leobard> I have a question about semantic-web.at ...
16:52:46 <leobard> q+
16:52:54 <bengee> decision: to change the sweo call time to be one hour earlier
16:53:22 <leobard> I have something
16:54:03 <bengee> Leobard: wonders if anything came out of dialog with semweb school AT already
16:54:30 <bengee> Susie: still communicating
16:54:35 <bengee> wrap up
16:54:43 <Karen> Bye
16:54:43 <PaulaP> bye
16:54:44 <Zakim> -kjetilk
16:54:46 <leobard> bye
16:54:46 <Zakim> -susie
16:54:47 <Zakim> -benjamin
16:54:48 <Dunitschka> bye
16:54:48 <Zakim> -Orri_Erling
16:54:50 <Zakim> -PaulaP
16:54:51 <Zakim> -martin
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16:54:53 <Zakim> -Karen
16:54:55 <Zakim> -Paulw
16:54:56 <Zakim> -wing
16:54:57 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
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16:55:06 <Zakim> -LeeF
16:55:56 <LeeF> RRSAgent, please generate minutes
16:55:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-SWEO-minutes.html LeeF
16:56:01 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
16:56:15 <wing> wing has left #sweo
16:56:17 <bengee> ah, cool. thanks, LeeF
16:56:53 <LeeF> yw
16:57:08 <bengee> and then here is a "RRSAgent, bugger off" command, right?
16:57:34 <LeeF> :)
16:57:35 <bengee> s/here/there/
16:57:38 <LeeF> RRSAgent, leave
16:57:38 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-SWEO-actions.rdf :
16:57:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Susie to ping the w3c de/at office again [1]
16:57:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-SWEO-irc#T16-08-37
16:57:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bengee to find right person within joost to contact for use case / case study [2]
16:57:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-SWEO-irc#T16-37-57