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14:53:52 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n core WG
14:53:54 <fsasaki> chair: Francois
14:53:56 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
14:53:59 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
14:54:05 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0022.html
14:54:09 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
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14:59:31 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has now started
14:59:39 <Zakim> +Ienup_Sung
14:59:40 <Zakim> -Ienup_Sung
14:59:41 <Zakim> +Felix
14:59:42 <Zakim> +Ienup_Sung
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15:00:52 <Zakim> +Michael_Monaghan
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15:03:29 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:03:29 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:03:31 <Zakim> +Richard
15:06:21 <fsasaki> agenda at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0022.html
15:06:29 <fsasaki> topic: last minutes
15:06:31 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-i18ncore-minutes.html
15:06:56 <fsasaki> minutes approved
15:07:04 <fsasaki> topic: Action items
15:07:14 <fsasaki> action: Felix to bring i18n core comments to data binding WG (DONE)
15:07:21 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0031.html
15:07:48 <fsasaki> action: Felix to go back to VBWG asking about our CCXML comments (DONE)
15:09:02 <fsasaki> action: Felix to go back to XML core with our comments on c14n 1.1. (DROPPED)
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15:09:33 <fsasaki> action: Francois to draft s.t. for a note about C064 / C065 (PENDING)
15:10:01 <fsasaki> action: Ienup to go to the Unicode UTC and check the stability of the "latest version" URI for referencing Unicode (ONGOING)
15:10:14 <fsasaki> Ienup: yesterday I sent a mail saying that I'm talking to Mark
15:10:32 <fsasaki> .. Mark said they have a URL we can use, so I'd recommend the URL and close the AI
15:10:55 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0023.html
15:11:41 <fsasaki> regrets+ Francois
15:12:55 <fsasaki> Felix: Agree with closing the AI but keeping track of the URI described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0023.html , we might need it for an update of C064 / C065
15:13:34 <fsasaki> action: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING)
15:13:57 <fsasaki> action: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING)
15:14:10 <fsasaki> action: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING)
15:14:29 <fsasaki> action: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather information onoptions for diacrictics in collations (PENDING)
15:14:44 <fsasaki> action: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply to him (PENDING
15:14:56 <fsasaki> (the
15:14:58 <fsasaki> mail was about the proposed edited recommendation request of xml:base,
15:15:00 <fsasaki> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0014.html )
15:15:17 <fsasaki> topic: Charmod C064 considered unclear
15:15:31 <fsasaki> postponed until next week
15:15:39 <fsasaki> topic: xml:base
15:16:30 <fsasaki> Felix: I'll ping Francois later to see if he can follow up on this before 31 January
15:16:42 <fsasaki> topic: PLS 1.0 review
15:17:30 <fsasaki> Richard: I'll look at it after the meeting
15:18:07 <fsasaki> topic: IDN "does it work?" document
15:18:14 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0027.html
15:18:20 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/att-0027/idn.html__charset_UTF-8
15:18:26 <Mick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0032.html
15:18:28 <fsasaki> Michael: I made an update since that
15:18:42 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/att-0032/idnv2.html__charset_UTF-8
15:19:08 <fsasaki> Richard: looks good, did not have a chance to look at it yet in detail
15:19:29 <fsasaki> Michael: Mark said IE looks a little bit more elegant than other solutions
15:19:59 <fsasaki> .. should we give time to review this?
15:20:16 <fsasaki> Richard: this is an replacement for a section in an existing article, right?
15:20:18 <fsasaki> Michael: yes
15:20:27 <fsasaki> Richard: I'll also send this to the GEO WG
15:21:32 <fsasaki> action: Richard to send the "IDN does it work?" document to GEO
15:21:48 <fsasaki> Ienup: I can also send the document to various people
15:21:57 <fsasaki> Richard: the document is quite long and a bit complex
15:22:14 <fsasaki> .. the GEO documents are sent out for review on the www-international list
15:22:23 <fsasaki> .. might also be good to do this here
15:22:35 <fsasaki> Ienup: good idea
15:23:09 <fsasaki> Michael: I'll make some formatting changes and condense the document, before distributing it
15:23:34 <fsasaki> .. the explanation of how some browsers act is covered in some "mouse over" information which is bad since you can't print that
15:23:41 <fsasaki> .. I'll reformat that before I'll distribute
15:23:51 <fsasaki> .. after that I'll send it to www-international?
15:24:16 <fsasaki> Richard: contact me as you are ready. We might want to integrate it into the original article, after that we send it to www-international
15:24:29 <fsasaki> Michael: ok, I'll contact you first
15:24:38 <fsasaki> topic: CSS 2.1 review
15:25:38 <fsasaki> Richard: I'll send the mail about the BDO stuff, I'll try to do that this week
15:26:25 <fsasaki> .. if you get a chance to read it, it's fine. CSS 2.1 is far advanced
15:26:39 <fsasaki> Felix: ok, let's do it like that
15:26:48 <fsasaki> topic: LC reviews
15:26:53 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0020.html
15:27:16 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/
15:28:01 <fsasaki> Felix: any volunteers?
15:28:48 <fsasaki> Richard: character encoding support is important in the draft for us
15:28:52 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE
15:29:09 <fsasaki> Richard: can't see a lot other issues
15:29:22 <fsasaki> action: Felix to add mobileOK to LC radar
15:30:02 <fsasaki> topic: LTLI update
15:30:14 <fsasaki> postponed
15:30:25 <fsasaki> topic: XQuery full text review - udpate?
15:30:29 <fsasaki> postponed
15:30:45 <fsasaki> topic: activity renewal
15:31:12 <fsasaki> Richard: form for renewal is out until 2nd February
15:31:32 <fsasaki> .. positive responses so far, one suggestion about MathML, except that not much to report
15:32:05 <fsasaki> s/2nd/7th/
15:32:30 <fsasaki> Richard: after activity renewal, everybody has to rejoin the WGs, so you'll have to talk to your AC reps for that
15:32:47 <fsasaki> .. we also have to make a recruitment plan for i18n , if you have any ideas, please let us know
15:32:54 <fsasaki> Michael: how many people are necessary?
15:33:19 <fsasaki> Richard: the more the better. Some people don't attend meetings, but contribute in other ways
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15:38:27 <fsasaki> topic: trip report from Richard
15:39:01 <fsasaki> Richard: went to conference organized by Pan localization project
15:39:18 <fsasaki> .. they are working with people developing standards for keyboards etc
15:39:39 <fsasaki> .. they train a smaller group of people in each country to become i18n / l10n engineers
15:39:48 <fsasaki> .. last week they had a meeting in Bhutan
15:40:02 <fsasaki> .. brought people from 16  countries together
15:40:24 <fsasaki> .. they will do a survey starting from the conference
15:40:25 <r12a> http://www.panl10n.net/english/Survey.htm
15:40:34 <fsasaki> .. above is a previous survey they did
15:40:50 <fsasaki> .. also in the workshop they put together some policy statements
15:41:41 <fsasaki> .. there was also a presentation by Ram Noham (scribe not sure about spelling)
15:41:49 <fsasaki> .. specialist in IDNs
15:42:26 <fsasaki> .. I represented W3C and explained what we do
15:42:31 <r12a> http://www.panl10n.net/english/Program20.htm
15:42:49 <fsasaki> Michael: how long has the pan localization been around?
15:42:56 <fsasaki> Richard: I think 3 years
15:43:19 <fsasaki> .. they recently launched Linux for Tibetanian and other languages
15:43:38 <fsasaki> .. the link above leads to the HP which has more info
15:44:25 <r12a> http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
15:45:00 <fsasaki> Felix: any potential members?
15:45:18 <fsasaki> Richard: not sure, the people might not join themselves, but spread the news in their country
15:46:37 <fsasaki> .. went back via India, people are still very interested in i18n
15:46:58 <fsasaki> .. they are interested in CSS support for lists using Indian numbers
15:48:19 <fsasaki> Felix: would be great to have  a requirements document (or several) for India or other Asian countries about their layout requirements
15:49:16 <Zakim> -Ienup_Sung
15:49:17 <Zakim> -Michael_Monaghan
15:49:19 <Zakim> -Felix
15:49:20 <Zakim> -Richard
15:49:21 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
15:49:22 <Zakim> Attendees were Ienup_Sung, Felix, Michael_Monaghan, Richard
15:49:39 <fsasaki> Richard: maybe a bit early (they are still in an early stage of discussion), maybe we can look into this later this year
15:49:42 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
15:49:49 <fsasaki> meeting adjourned
15:49:54 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:49:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html fsasaki
15:59:17 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> I see 12 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-actions.rdf :
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to bring i18n core comments to data binding WG (DONE) [1]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-07-14
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to go back to VBWG asking about our CCXML comments (DONE) [2]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-07-48
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to go back to XML core with our comments on c14n 1.1. (DROPPED) [3]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-09-02
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Francois to draft s.t. for a note about C064 / C065 (PENDING) [4]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-09-33
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ienup to go to the Unicode UTC and check the stability of the "latest version" URI for referencing Unicode (ONGOING) [5]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-10-01
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING) [6]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-13-34
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING) [7]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-13-57
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING) [8]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-14-10
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather information onoptions for diacrictics in collations (PENDING) [9]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-14-29
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply to him (PENDING [10]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-14-44
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard to send the "IDN does it work?" document to GEO [11]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-21-32
15:59:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to add mobileOK to LC radar [12]
15:59:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc#T15-29-22
15:59:21 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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