IRC log of i18nits on 2007-01-24
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- meeting: i18n ITS WG
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- chair: Yves
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- scribe: Felix
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- scribeNick: fsasaki
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0049.html
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- rrsagent, make log public
- 14:59:05 [YvesS]
- Hi felix, I noticed that the Comparison page seems to be not working anymore. Is it normal? (making changes?)
- 14:59:33 [fsasaki]
- Hi Yves, I saw that too. I think it is a problem of the XSLT page, I'm looking at it
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- s/page/tool/
- 14:59:48 [Zakim]
- I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
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- It works offline for me
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- + +1.303.962.aaaa
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- +Felix
- 15:00:05 [YvesS]
- ok
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +Sebastian_Rahtz
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- zakim, [IP is Andrzej
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- +Andrzej; got it
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- 15:03:03 [YvesS]
- zakim, who is there?
- 15:03:03 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, YvesS.
- 15:03:08 [YvesS]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:03:08 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Yves, Felix, Andrzej, Sebastian_Rahtz
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- On IRC I see chriLi, AZ, rahtz, RRSAgent, Zakim, fsasaki, YvesS
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- +Claus
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- topic: action items
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0049.html
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- action: Editors to remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft. (PENDING)
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- action: Felix to post a proposal for both attribute notations on the span element. (PENDING)
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- action: Editors to implement the the change in the specification regarding precedence order wording. (ONGOING)
- 15:05:37 [YvesS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0013.html
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- Felix: I'm worried about the precedence
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- Yves: we probably can't solve it, like the XInclude case
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- Felix: so people have to communicate how to decide the precedence
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- action: Yves to make sure we have a section in the BP document for precedence of tool specific linking
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- action: Felix to see if the comparison tool can be smarter about namespace comparison (same ns but different prefix should be OK). (DONE)
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- action: Yves to list the result issues to see how we can address them. (DONE)
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- Yves: we started on going through that, will continue
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0050.html
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- Yves: we all made many fixes
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- .. I have to fix locNoteRefPointer attribute. Sebastian is test 1, I'm test 2, Felix is test 3
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- .. for translatability, we match for everything
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- action: Editors to go to the draft and check that there are no "CSS style elements" or the like. (DONE)
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- s/DONE/PENDING/
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- action: Yves to re-ask Andrzej about inheritence and overriding for example (DONE)
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- Andrzej: there was one bug in our implementation, we are fixing that
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- topic: NVDL and ITS
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- Sebastian: would be an illustration of how to validate things
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- .. Felix asked how to expand it to XSD
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- Yves: proposal is to add a section on validation of ITS with NVDL. Currently there is a subsection with Schematron.
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- (see the discussion at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0030.html)
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- Christian: not sure if we should do s.t. to the spec now, concerned about time
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- Yves: if Jirka writes the section, it would not be much work for the editors
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- Christian: what is the relevance of NVDL?
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- Sebastian: part of an ISO proposal for schema validation
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- Felix: SVG tiny 1.2 uses NVDL as well
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- Christian: If Jirka supplies the first draft, we should go for it
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- Felix: NVDL is interesting new technology, but we should not spend much time on it, since it is not a core interest for internationalization / localization
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- NVDL is part of http://www.dsdl.org/
- 15:25:51 [rahtz]
- Yes, I just found the same url...
- 15:25:59 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=ITS
- 15:26:06 [fsasaki]
- RESOLUTION: WG agrees with a section on NVDL if Jirka provides the main input. We will discuss later if an how it can be integrated in the document
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- topic: open issues of the tagset draft
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- Yves: nothing new, just need to close them after implementation in the spec
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- topic: time schedule
- 15:29:19 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/
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- Felix: we would need to be finished with implementations and spec editing until 27 February to be able to be a REC in March
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- s/March/27 March/
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- Sebastian: we still need to create ruby files
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- Felix: working on that
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- action: Felix to provide ruby tests and their implementation
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- Sebastian: we are relying on hand-crafted examples
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- .. would be nice if we would get input from Jirka
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- action: Jirka to look at the test suite and see if the tests make sense
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- Sebastian: what else has to be done to be able to leave CR?
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- Felix: we need to write a section on XHTML modularization, I can do that
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- action: Felix to start a section on XHTML modularization for the XML i18n BP document
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- Felix: has everybody time in the next for weeks?
- 15:37:57 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/Dir1.xml
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- Sebastian: will be away at the end of this month for 3 days, except that I'm available
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- topic: directionality
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- Sebastian: what is the inheritance for directionality?
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- Yves: child elements and attributes
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- Sebastian: Dir1.xml is strange because xml:lang has a directionality
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- -Sebastian_Rahtz
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- -Yves
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- -Andrzej
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- -Felix
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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- Attendees were +1.303.962.aaaa, Felix, [IPcaller], Yves, Sebastian_Rahtz, Andrzej, Christian
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Editors to remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft. (PENDING) [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-04-39
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- ACTION: Felix to post a proposal for both attribute notations on the span element. (PENDING) [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-04-56
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- ACTION: Editors to implement the the change in the specification regarding precedence order wording. (ONGOING) [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-05-15
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- ACTION: Yves to make sure we have a section in the BP document for precedence of tool specific linking [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-10-20
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- ACTION: Felix to see if the comparison tool can be smarter about namespace comparison (same ns but different prefix should be OK). (DONE) [5]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-10-53
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- ACTION: Yves to list the result issues to see how we can address them. (DONE) [6]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-12-29
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- ACTION: Editors to go to the draft and check that there are no "CSS style elements" or the like. (DONE) [7]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-15-41
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- ACTION: Yves to re-ask Andrzej about inheritence and overriding for example (DONE) [8]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-16-09
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- ACTION: Felix to provide ruby tests and their implementation [9]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-31-17
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- ACTION: Jirka to look at the test suite and see if the tests make sense [10]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-32-07
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- ACTION: Felix to start a section on XHTML modularization for the XML i18n BP document [11]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-i18nits-irc#T15-36-33
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- zakim, bye
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