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15:58:04 <Zakim> +DanC
15:58:12 <Zakim> +rreck
15:58:28 <DanC> Zakim, aaaa is JohnClark
15:58:28 <Zakim> +JohnClark; got it
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15:59:05 <Zakim> +??P6
15:59:16 <DanC> Zakim, ??P6 is BrianM
15:59:16 <Zakim> +BrianM; got it
16:00:10 <Zakim> +??P10
16:00:16 <briansuda> Zakim, ???p10 is briansuda
16:00:16 <Zakim> sorry, briansuda, I do not recognize a party named '???p10'
16:00:32 <briansuda> Zakim, ??P10 is briansuda
16:00:32 <Zakim> +briansuda; got it
16:01:27 <DanC> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:01:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnClark, DanC, rreck, BrianM, briansuda
16:02:32 <DanC> Zakim, take up item 1
16:02:32 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-01-23T11:00-0500" taken up
16:03:32 <DanC> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/01/17-grddl-wg-minutes.html minutes 17 Jan
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16:03:59 <DanC> RESOLVED: to approve minutes 17 Jan
16:04:34 <DanC> Zakim, pick a victim
16:04:34 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose briansuda
16:04:48 <DanC> Scribe: briansuda
16:04:57 <Zakim> +Ian_Davis
16:04:58 <DanC> regrets: Chime, Fabien
16:05:10 <DanC> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:05:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnClark, DanC, rreck, BrianM, briansuda, Ian_Davis
16:06:55 <DanC> Zakim, take up item 7
16:06:55 <Zakim> agendum 7. "[#issue-base-param]" taken up
16:07:29 <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#base-param
16:08:26 <DanC> PROPOSED: to approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#base-param , including ...
16:08:41 <Zakim> + +1.919.668.aabb
16:08:53 <DanC> Zakim, aabb is HarryH
16:08:53 <Zakim> +HarryH; got it
16:09:08 <briansuda> Dan: base-param 1.2
16:09:12 <DanC> baseURI.html:
16:09:12 <DanC>      $Revision: 1.31 $
16:09:37 <DanC> baseURI.rdf revision 1.1 date: 2006/12/25 06:18:07
16:10:09 <DanC> baseURI.html 1.2 date: 2007/01/12 23:06:58
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16:12:33 <DanC> 1.1 date: 2006/12/25 06:17:49 baseURI.xsl
16:12:49 <iand> Zakim, mute me
16:12:49 <Zakim> Ian_Davis should now be muted
16:13:02 <HarryH> Apologies for being a bit late - laptop still broken and therefore having to deal with total lack of Uni. infrastructure :)
16:14:15 <DanC> baseURI.rdf revision 1.1 date: 2006/12/25 06:18:07 has 2 triples, but only 1 seems licensed.
16:14:19 <DanC> proposal doesn't carry
16:15:41 <iand> hmmm
16:16:27 <DanC> ACTION BrianM: fix baseURI.xsl, re-propose testlist1#base-param
16:16:39 <DanC> Zakim, close this item
16:16:39 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
16:16:40 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:16:41 <Zakim> 1. Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-01-23T11:00-0500
16:16:46 <DanC> Zakim, close item 1
16:16:46 <Zakim> agendum 1, Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-01-23T11:00-0500, closed
16:16:47 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:16:48 <Zakim> 2. [#issue-html-nsdoc]
16:16:51 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 2
16:16:51 <Zakim> agendum 2. "[#issue-html-nsdoc]" taken up
16:17:04 <briansuda> Harry: 2 proposals
16:17:18 <briansuda> health warning about NS caching
16:17:46 <DanC> Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:52:56 -0000
16:18:08 <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Jan/0067.html 
16:18:12 <HarryH> That's bwm
16:18:33 <DanC> "GRDDL aware agents therefore should retrieve such documents on every reference" missing a "not"?
16:19:08 <briansuda> Dan: this will end-up in appendix
16:19:10 <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Jan/0041.html
16:19:13 <HarryH> That's Danja's
16:20:12 <briansuda> brian: caching implies keeping the original documented - not needed, just keep the reference
16:20:18 <DanC> (keeping information is caching, to me. but oh well.)
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16:20:42 <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Jan/0046.html
16:20:51 <HarryH> HarryH's added sentence.
16:20:55 <briansuda> brian: shouldn't pull the HTML ns 1000 times a sec
16:21:11 <Zakim> +??P31
16:21:22 <danja> that's me
16:22:29 <briansuda> Harry: the issue is to let the user turn off or on
16:22:35 <briansuda> caching
16:23:16 <briansuda> Dan: this should be covered by bwm's proposal
16:24:13 <briansuda> brian: ... allow the memory to be disabled
16:24:32 <HarryH> I would add sentence 
16:24:37 <briansuda> brian: is fine with 'memory' or 'cache'
16:24:38 <rreck> i like cache better than local memory
16:24:57 <briansuda> Harry: is happy with either term
16:25:00 <iand> cache is good for me too
16:25:30 <HarryH> "The cache is a copy of the GRDDL Transformation in local memory"
16:27:02 <DanC> PROPOSED: to close #issue-html-nsdoc a la bwm's msg of 24 Jan 2007 15:52:56 -0000 with perhaps "cache" replacing "local memory" and with something about clearing the cache at user option
16:27:56 <iand> yes
16:27:59 <iand> fine by me
16:28:25 <briansuda> RESOLVED
16:29:20 <briansuda> Harry: does this also solve the issue with XML ns
16:29:37 <briansuda> Harry: implication XHTML is not treated specially
16:29:45 <briansuda> unless specified
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16:30:04 <HarryH> Zakim, close this item
16:30:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
16:30:05 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:30:06 <Zakim> 3. [#issue-http-header-links]
16:30:08 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
16:30:09 <Zakim> agendum 3. "[#issue-http-header-links]" taken up
16:30:15 <iand> Zakim, unmute me
16:30:15 <Zakim> Ian_Davis should no longer be muted
16:30:30 <briansuda> ian: almost ready to send something out later today
16:30:32 <HarryH> Zakim, close this item
16:30:32 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
16:30:34 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:30:35 <Zakim> 4. Test cases for GRDDL with XML documents
16:30:41 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 4
16:30:41 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Test cases for GRDDL with XML documents" taken up
16:30:50 <DanC> ACTION: IanD to propose some details for GRDDL links in HTTP [CONTINUES]
16:31:07 <HarryH> Zakim, close this item
16:31:07 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
16:31:08 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:31:09 <Zakim> 5. [#issue-output-formats] whether GRDDL transformations may produce RDF in a format other than RDF/XML
16:31:15 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 5
16:31:16 <Zakim> agendum 5. "[#issue-output-formats] whether GRDDL transformations may produce RDF in a format other than RDF/XML" taken up
16:31:38 <briansuda> Dan: Turtle MimeType test works
16:31:56 <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#atomttl1
16:32:46 <HarryH> PROPOSAL: To approve test  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#atomttl1
16:32:49 <briansuda> Dan: is happy with the progress
16:33:04 <briansuda> Dan: no movement on getting mimetype registered
16:33:17 <briansuda> RESOLVED
16:33:40 <briansuda> bwm: what if mimetype is missing
16:34:09 <briansuda> Dan: N3 as output in test case
16:34:25 <briansuda> Harry: RDF/XML XSLT 1.0 cases
16:34:34 <briansuda> GRDDL result does NOT have a correct media type
16:36:21 <DanC> "Ok, I'll take that action." -- bwm Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:46:02 -0000
16:36:50 <briansuda> Harry: Ben is happy to work on hGRDDL, but not part of GRDDL duties
16:37:14 <bwm> ACTION: bwm to produce a test case with GRDDL transforms on two different representations (HTML and SVG) of the same information resource.
16:37:22 <briansuda> Dan: 2 ways RDFa interacts with GRDDL
16:37:29 <briansuda> RDFa and input... and
16:37:59 <briansuda> GRDDL source doc is RDFa, RDFa -> RDF/xml
16:38:08 <briansuda> 2nd way...
16:38:35 <briansuda> source doc, transformation creates RDFa as output... GRDDL agent knows about RDFa and gets graph from it
16:39:00 <briansuda> Dan: get a test or drop this
16:39:19 <briansuda> Harry
16:39:35 <briansuda> Harry: ben need to pick this up, continue his action or drop this
16:40:11 <briansuda> bwm: alot of implementation will fail this test case
16:40:22 <HarryH> Zakim, close this item
16:40:22 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
16:40:23 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:40:24 <Zakim> 6. [#issue-mt-ns]
16:40:31 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 6
16:40:31 <Zakim> agendum 6. "[#issue-mt-ns]" taken up
16:41:16 <briansuda> Harry: what is your opinion about test sweet about getting 2 different results
16:43:22 <briansuda> Harry: should we pass Murry's action to someone else or give him one more week?
16:43:30 <DanC> danja, see section "Manifest Format" in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1
16:43:47 <danja> thanks!
16:44:01 <HarryH> Zakim, close this item
16:44:01 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
16:44:03 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:44:04 <Zakim> 8. Primer Document
16:44:05 <HarryH> Zakim open item 7
16:44:16 <DanC> Zakim, take up item Primer
16:44:16 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Primer Document" taken up
16:44:24 <briansuda> Harry: john, any movement on HL7?
16:44:32 <briansuda> John: not at the moment
16:44:44 <briansuda> Harry: DBooth wants a plain XML in use-case
16:44:55 <briansuda> Dan: we need to answer his comment
16:45:31 <briansuda> Danny: can create an Atom->RDF for the primer
16:46:30 <briansuda> Harry: we have the HL7 and when we get the prose it should be fine
16:47:43 <HarryH> ACTION: IanD to sort out SPARQL Query.
16:48:02 <briansuda> Harry: update jane's schedule to RDFa
16:49:02 <briansuda> Dan: worries about primer getting out of sync with RDFa, but that's life
16:49:40 <briansuda> Iam: is there a plain XML format for Calendaring?
16:50:16 <iand> what about http://xml.coverpages.org/iCal.html
16:50:26 <DanC> http://xml.coverpages.org/iCal.html
16:50:29 <DanC> yeah; that one
16:50:37 <HarryH> ACTION: Harry to add Jane schedule to RDFa
16:50:45 <HarryH> Zakim, close this item
16:50:45 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
16:50:47 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
16:50:48 <Zakim> 9. GRDDL Spec: General issues
16:50:50 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 9
16:50:50 <Zakim> agendum 9. "GRDDL Spec: General issues" taken up
16:52:27 <briansuda> Dan: has made spec work progress
16:53:13 <HarryH> Meeting Adjourned
16:53:20 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:53:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-grddl-wg-minutes.html DanC
16:53:37 <Zakim> -BrianM
16:53:41 <Zakim> -Ian_Davis
16:54:05 <DanC> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
16:54:10 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:54:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-grddl-wg-minutes.html DanC
16:54:40 <DanC> Meeting: GRDDL WG Weekly
16:54:47 <DanC> Zakim, list attendees
16:54:47 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.216.445.aaaa, DanC, rreck, JohnClark, BrianM, briansuda, Ian_Davis, +1.919.668.aabb, HarryH
16:54:53 <DanC> Chair: HarryH
16:54:57 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:54:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/24-grddl-wg-minutes.html DanC
16:55:31 <DanC> Date: 2007/01/24 16:55:10
16:55:33 <Zakim> -??P31
16:55:37 <Zakim> -JohnClark
16:55:53 <DanC> briansuda, the version of 2007/01/24 16:55:10 is pretty close; whack the diagnostics off and send it, pls
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16:59:19 <DanC> ew... transition documentation is hard to get to.
17:00:53 <DanC> RRSAgent, stop