IRC log of mmsem on 2007-01-18
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-irc
- 16:49:52 [raphael]
- zakim, list conferences
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- I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM, DIG_TAMI()11:00AM, WS_DescWG()11:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM active
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- also scheduled at this time are XML_PMWG()11:00AM, SYMM_TTWG()12:00PM, INC_MMSEM()12:00PM, GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, I18N_Core_WG(WS-I18N)11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM
- 16:50:06 [raphael]
- zakim, this is INC_MMSEM
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- raphael, I see INC_MMSEM()12:00PM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be INC_MMSEM".
- 16:50:22 [raphael]
- zakim, this will be INC_MMSEM
- 16:50:22 [Zakim]
- ok, raphael; I see INC_MMSEM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
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- raphael has changed the topic to: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 18-01-2007, 17:00 UTC
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- Topic: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 18-01-2007, 17:00 UTC
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Jan/0032.html
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- Chair: Raphael
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- Scribe: Michael
- 16:51:51 [mhausenblas]
- Present: Raphael Troncy, Roberto Ellero, Zeljko Obrenovic, Christian Halaschek-Wiener, Michael Hausenblas
- 16:51:52 [raphael]
- Scribenick: mhausenblas
- 16:52:01 [mhausenblas]
- Regrets: Jeff Pan, Pasquale Popolizio, Vassilis Tzouvaras, Patrizia Asirelli, Ioannis Pratikakis, Paola Hobson
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- INC_MMSEM()12:00PM has now started
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- +Michael_Hausenblas
- 16:53:22 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, who is on the call?
- 16:53:22 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Michael_Hausenblas
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- +??P10
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- -Michael_Hausenblas
- 16:55:22 [Zakim]
- +Michael_Hausenblas
- 16:55:47 [raphael]
- zakim, ??P10 is raphael
- 16:55:47 [Zakim]
- +raphael; got it
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- + +39.050.aaaa
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- zakim, +39.050.aaaa is SuzanneLittle
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- +SuzanneLittle; got it
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- + +31.20.592.aabb
- 16:56:53 [mhausenblas]
- present+ Suzanne Little
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- +Chris_Halaschek-Wiener
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- +[IPcaller]
- 16:57:48 [mhausenblas]
- present+ Thomas Franz
- 16:57:56 [rellero]
- zakim, +[IPcaller] is Roberto_Ellero
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- sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
- 16:57:57 [raphael]
- zakim, +31.20.592.aabb is Zeljko
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- +Zeljko; got it
- 16:58:18 [rellero]
- Zakim, [IPcaller] is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
- 16:58:25 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 16:58:35 [TobiasBuerger]
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- +Thomas_Franz
- 16:58:49 [mhausenblas]
- present+ Tobias Buerger
- 16:59:17 [raphael]
- present+ Zeljko
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- present+ Tobias
- 16:59:48 [Zakim]
- +TobiasBuerger
- 17:00:18 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 1. ADMIN
- 17:00:30 [mhausenblas]
- Roll call
- 17:00:52 [Zakim]
- + +329331aacc
- 17:01:15 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Propose to accept the minutes of F2F Athens
- 17:01:29 [mhausenblas]
- no objections
- 17:01:30 [chalaschek]
- none here
- 17:01:44 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Propose to accept the minutes of last telecon
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- no objections
- 17:01:51 [erik_chris_gaetan]
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- +present Erik
- 17:02:32 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 2. LINKS Pages
- 17:03:16 [raphael]
- Vocabularies page: no major update since the F2F meeting
- 17:03:27 [raphael]
- ... We have to agree on a date for a frozen version
- 17:03:49 [Zakim]
- +??P16
- 17:05:13 [raphael]
- zakim, ??P16 is Melli
- 17:05:13 [Zakim]
- +Melli; got it
- 17:05:26 [raphael]
- Erik ... propose to add contributions
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- +[IPcaller]
- 17:05:54 [raphael]
- ACTION: Erik to update the vocabularies page by the next telecon
- 17:06:00 [mhausenblas]
- present + Melli
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- present+ Susanne Boll
- 17:06:36 [Susanne]
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- Introduction of Zeljko
- 17:07:21 [raphael]
- zakim, IPcaller is SusanneBoll
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- +SusanneBoll; got it
- 17:07:36 [mhausenblas]
- Zeljko: Will go over the tools page and add stuff
- 17:07:57 [raphael]
- The idea is to have a frozen version of the Vocabularies page in a XG report, date, beginning of April
- 17:08:26 [raphael]
- Tools page: use the DOAP and the RDF to automatically generate page
- 17:08:33 [raphael]
- ... eat our own dog food !
- 17:09:40 [raphael]
- zakim, who is making noise
- 17:09:40 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is making noise', raphael
- 17:10:50 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Raphael addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report) change the syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08]
- 17:11:07 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- Raphael: Will make proposal for voting
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- ... by next telecon for publication
- 17:11:51 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 4. Interoperability Deliverable#
- 17:12:24 [raphael]
- michael: script from Sandro to generate a TR from a wiki page
- 17:12:40 [raphael]
- ... the formatting generates a WD
- 17:14:55 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Michael to make testing how to transfer the wiki page into an XG report template [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action10]
- 17:15:04 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- Topic: 4.1 Structure (Vassilis)
- 17:15:40 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Vassilis and Jeff to start the Common Framework [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action07]
- 17:15:44 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
- 17:16:08 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Vassilis update the structure of the deliverable and fill it in a XG report template, HTML document in our W3C space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]
- 17:16:12 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
- 17:16:23 [raphael]
- zakim, mute SusanneBoll
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- SusanneBoll should now be muted
- 17:16:30 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Vassilis responsible that each author of each use case to fill the summary of their interoperability problems [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action06]
- 17:16:34 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- 4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)
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- ACTION: Paola to provide a possible B2B scenario [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action02]
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- -- continues
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- ACTION: Oscar and Jacco to provide a first implementation of the use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action01]
- 17:17:37 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- 4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris, Raphael)
- 17:18:22 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Fix copright issues
- 17:18:33 [raphael]
- zakim, unmute SusanneBoll
- 17:18:33 [Zakim]
- SusanneBoll should no longer be muted
- 17:18:40 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Raphael, Therry, and Chris to sync UC Wiki description with their new focus (financial domain) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action03]
- 17:18:45 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- Topic: 4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll)
- 17:19:52 [mhausenblas]
- Susanne: Get feedback from industry partner within next 4 weeks
- 17:20:16 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Susanne to look again in the various systems and standards and identify 3-4 standards that together could be the solution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06]
- 17:20:25 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
- 17:21:15 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Please provide sketch of solution
- 17:21:47 [mhausenblas]
- Susanne: Will add some more entries into vocabulary page
- 17:22:59 [mhausenblas]
- ... discussion with partners is promising
- 17:23:22 [mhausenblas]
- Erik: Want to contribute as well
- 17:24:04 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Erik might want to start a discussion on the public list
- 17:24:41 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION : Erik to start a discussion on Photo UC on public list
- 17:24:47 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 4.5 Tagging Use case: (George, Thomas, Raphael)
- 17:25:15 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Status of Georg's assignment is unclear
- 17:25:43 [raphael]
- zakim, mute SusanneBoll
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- SusanneBoll should now be muted
- 17:26:02 [mhausenblas]
- Thomas: Enhancing prototype that was demoed in F2F/Athens
- 17:27:59 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Thomas to report analysis of tagging platform in Wiki
- 17:28:20 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 4.6 Algorithm representation Use case: (Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)
- 17:28:29 [raphael]
- ... and the requirements for reusing a personomy cross-platform
- 17:28:51 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Suzanne, Massimo to further exemplify and sketch the solution: what will be needed to model in the ontology, and how it would be used [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action03]
- 17:28:54 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
- 17:29:14 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Sophia to find and send a documentation about an application toolbox where the user can select some algorithm to do feature extraction on music [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action02]
- 17:29:18 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- Raphael: What is your plan with this UC?
- 17:30:16 [mhausenblas]
- Suzanne: Will add some more bits in the next three days
- 17:30:36 [mhausenblas]
- ... a call for feedback will be sent via mail
- 17:31:39 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case: (Ioannis)
- 17:32:09 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: postponed to next telecon
- 17:32:20 [mhausenblas]
- ... discuss if merged with 4.6
- 17:32:55 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Regarding Bio-medical Image Use Case status
- 17:34:02 [mhausenblas]
- Melli: Will take close look at UC
- 17:34:21 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Are you interessted in other UC?
- 17:34:25 [isti]
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- Melli: Yes - will let you know
- 17:34:51 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Photo UC might be a good choice
- 17:34:56 [raphael]
- zakim, unmute SusanneBoll
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- SusanneBoll should no longer be muted
- 17:35:15 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 5. MPEG-7 Deliverable
- 17:35:41 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Vassilis, Raphael, Oscar, Michael, Stamatia to set up a new Deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action05]
- 17:35:46 [mhausenblas]
- -- done
- 17:38:49 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Raphael Stamatia to start work on MPEG-7 deliverable
- 17:38:57 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: 6. AOB
- 17:39:26 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Submitted proposal for panel to WWW 07
- 17:39:29 [mhausenblas]
- ... http://www2007.org/cfp-Panels.php
- 17:39:45 [mhausenblas]
- ... CfP http://homepages.cwi.nl/~media/projects/canonical/cfp/index.html
- 17:40:06 [mhausenblas]
- .. .Announcement: CFP Special Issue of Multimedia Systems Journal on Canonical Processes of Media Production
- 17:40:41 [mhausenblas]
- Zeljko: Will post it onto MMSEM-XG list
- 17:40:53 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 17:40:53 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 17:41:50 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: As reported, Jeff will present our work right after next telecon
- 17:42:01 [mhausenblas]
- ... this means we all have to work - HARD
- 17:42:55 [chalaschek]
- thanks!
- 17:42:57 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: next telecon in 2 weeks
- 17:42:59 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- -Melli
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- -Thomas_Franz
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- -TobiasBuerger
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- -Chris_Halaschek-Wiener
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- -Zeljko
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- -SusanneBoll
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- - +329331aacc
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- -SuzanneLittle
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- -raphael
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- -Michael_Hausenblas
- 17:43:34 [mhausenblas]
- yep.
- 17:44:21 [isti]
- bye all suzanne and massimo
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- 17:45:13 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 17:45:13 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
- 17:45:28 [Zakim]
- -Roberto_Ellero
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- INC_MMSEM()12:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Michael_Hausenblas, raphael, SuzanneLittle, Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Zeljko, Roberto_Ellero, Thomas_Franz, TobiasBuerger, +329331aacc, Melli, SusanneBoll
- 17:45:47 [raphael]
- Meeting: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 18-01-2007, 17:00 UTC
- 17:45:50 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 17:45:50 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
- 17:45:59 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 17:46:15 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 17:46:15 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
- 17:46:47 [raphael]
- I have updated the Meeting name :-)
- 17:46:53 [raphael]
- it is OK now
- 17:46:56 [raphael]
- refresh the browser
- 17:47:12 [raphael]
- so, yes, you have to announce the minutes on the list
- 17:47:16 [raphael]
- as you did previously
- 17:47:17 [raphael]
- great job
- 17:47:20 [raphael]
- thanks !
- 17:47:35 [raphael]
- se you next week for our JRS telecon, on Wednesday, right ?
- 17:48:08 [mhausenblas]
- bye!
- 17:48:13 [raphael]
- bye