IRC log of grddl-wg on 2007-01-10

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16:02:07 [chimezie]

now..

16:02:21 [DanC]

DanC has changed the topic to: GRDDL WG 10 Jan http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda

16:02:27 [Zakim]

+DanC

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+Murray_Maloney

16:03:23 [DanC]

Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda

16:03:24 [Zakim]

working on it, DanC

16:03:25 [Zakim]

agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-01-10T11:00-0500

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agendum 1 added

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agenda+ Test cases for GRDDL with XML documents

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agendum 2 added

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agenda+ [#issue-output-formats] whether GRDDL transformations may produce RDF in a format other than RDF/XML

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agendum 3 added

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agenda+ GRDDL and (non-XML) HTML

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agendum 4 added

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agenda+ Cross-document Introduction

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agendum 5 added

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agenda+ [#issue-mt-ns]

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agendum 6 added

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agenda+ [#issue-base-param]

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agendum 7 added

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agenda+ Primer Document

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agendum 8 added

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agenda+ GRDDL Spec: General issues

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agendum 9 added

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agenda+ [#issue-html-nsdoc]

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agendum 10 added

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agenda+ [#issue-tx-element]

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16:04:26 [Zakim]

agendum 11 added

16:04:28 [Zakim]

agenda+ [#issue-conformance-labels]

16:04:28 [DanC]

Zakim, take up item 1

16:04:30 [Zakim]

agendum 12 added

16:04:34 [Zakim]

agenda+ [#issue-http-header-links]

16:04:40 [Zakim]

agendum 13 added

16:04:42 [Zakim]

done reading agenda, DanC

16:04:44 [Zakim]

+??P13

16:04:53 [DanC]

Zakim, take up item 1

16:04:56 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-01-10T11:00-0500" taken up

16:05:01 [DanC]

Zakim, who's on the phone?

16:05:23 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-01-10T11:00-0500" taken up

16:05:23 [chimezie]

whats that noise?

16:05:29 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Ben_Adida, +1.703.861.aabb, DanC, Murray_Maloney, ??P13

16:05:30 [DanC]

Zakim, who's making noise?

16:05:41 [Zakim]

+Chimezie_Ogbuji

16:05:55 [DanC]

Zakim, aabb is RonR

16:06:06 [Zakim]

DanC, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben_Adida (5%), +1.703.861.aabb (46%), ??P13 (16%), Chimezie_Ogbuji (20%), DanC (13%)

16:06:36 [Zakim]

+RonR; got it

16:07:05 [HarryH]

chair: HarryH

16:07:13 [HarryH]

scribe: BenA

16:07:20 [HarryH]

PROPOSED: to approve GRDDL WG Weekly -- 20 Dec 2006 as a true record

16:07:27 [HarryH]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Dec/att-0072/GRDDL_Weekly_--_20_Dec_2006.html

16:07:51 [benadida]

ScribeNick: benadida

16:08:10 [benadida]

consensus on minutes... approved

16:08:24 [DanC]

ack ronr

16:09:11 [DanC]

Zakim, P13 is Murray

16:09:11 [Zakim]

sorry, DanC, I do not recognize a party named 'P13'

16:09:16 [DanC]

Zakim, ??P13 is Murray

16:09:16 [Zakim]

+Murray; got it

16:09:22 [Zakim]

+??P32

16:09:25 [briansuda]

Zakim, [IPcaller] is briansuda

16:09:25 [Zakim]

sorry, briansuda, I do not recognize a party named '[IPcaller]'

16:09:34 [HarryH]

Zakim, pick a scribe

16:09:34 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ben_Adida

16:09:39 [HarryH]

Zakim, pick a scribe

16:09:39 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose RonR (muted)

16:09:40 [briansuda]

Zakim, [+??P32] is briansuda

16:09:41 [Zakim]

sorry, briansuda, I do not recognize a party named '[+??P32]'

16:09:44 [DanC]

Zakim ??P32 is BrianSuda

16:09:46 [HarryH]

Zakim, pick a scribe

16:09:46 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DanC

16:09:49 [DanC]

Zakim, ??P32 is BrianSuda

16:09:49 [Zakim]

+BrianSuda; got it

16:10:03 [HarryH]

Zakim, pick a scribe

16:10:03 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose BrianSuda

16:10:39 [benadida]

scribe next week: DanC, who will show RonR for a future date

16:10:47 [HarryH]

Zakim, next item

16:10:47 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "Test cases for GRDDL with XML documents" taken up

16:11:31 [HarryH]

Withdraw XInclude Test?

16:11:36 [benadida]

HarryH: we might have to withdraw the XInclude Test

16:11:55 [benadida]

... the test suite could have two outputs, or withdraw xinclude test

16:12:05 [benadida]

... one that does xinclude, one that doesn't

16:12:22 [benadida]

DanC: that's substantive discussion of issue.

16:12:31 [benadida]

HarryH: I thought we had consensus.

16:12:39 [HarryH]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Dec/att-0072/GRDDL_Weekly_--_20_Dec_2006.html

16:12:48 [HarryH]

RESOLVED: to add issue faithful-infoset (split it out of issue-mt-ns) and close it a la: The GRDDL WG does not mandate XInclude and further XML processing on the source document before the transformation to RDF, and write a caveat in the specification recommending XPROC when this is the case. (benA and BrianS abstaining)

16:13:04 [HarryH]

Is this not resolved?

16:13:24 [benadida]

DanC: my understanding is that Xinclude should not happen in the test suite

16:13:29 [DanC]

"RESOLVED: to add issue faithful-infoset (split it out of issue-mt-ns) and close it a la: The GRDDL WG does not mandate XInclude and further XML processing on the source document before the transformation to RDF, and write a caveat in the specification recommending XPROC when this is the case."

16:13:42 [benadida]

... the decision I voted for is to not mandate it

16:14:22 [chimezie]

I was under the distinct impression we resolved the issue

16:14:26 [chimezie]

it's just not testable

16:14:40 [benadida]

HarryH: what's everyone's take?

16:15:00 [benadida]

... we resolved to *not* mandate XInclude

16:15:14 [benadida]

... what should our test suite do??

16:15:21 [benadida]

DanC: shows this isn't resolved

16:15:36 [benadida]

Chime: difference between test suite and spec

16:16:00 [DanC]

"If an information resource IR is represented by an XML document whose root node is linked to a GRDDL transformation TX"

16:16:38 [benadida]

(scribe is a bit lost in this discussion, trying to summarize shortly.)

16:17:05 [benadida]

MurrayM: thought we agreed that GRDDL works with infosets

16:17:07 [chimezie]

1) fetch 2) parse 3) handed over to GRDDL as XPath nodes / infoset

16:17:12 [chimezie]

we are talking about step 2)

16:17:15 [benadida]

DanC: XPaths, specifically.

16:17:35 [benadida]

DanC: angle bracket doc determines the infoset you get.

16:17:44 [benadida]

Chime: not my understand of what we resolved: 3 step process (as above)

16:18:17 [benadida]

DanC: I asked about changing spec, no one spoke up

16:18:30 [benadida]

MurrayM: agree that we didn't close the issue

16:18:51 [benadida]

HarryH: I thought we were clear that we didn't mandate XInclude

16:19:26 [benadida]

... we wanted Murray to write an informative paragraph

16:19:36 [benadida]

Chime: what's our criteria for considering the issue closed?

16:19:47 [benadida]

DanC: record says we resolved it, I suggest we reopen it

16:20:28 [benadida]

Chime: I don't see the issue with not having a test case scenario for something we don't mandate

16:21:00 [benadida]

MurrayM: it's a function of having the right tools available

16:21:08 [HarryH]

\me Harry is listening to the discussion to determine whether or not to re-open

16:21:28 [DanC]

(you're actually allowing substantive discussion of the issue, which is out of order unless it's open.)

16:21:43 [benadida]

Chime: very distinct 3 steps

16:21:52 [benadida]

MurrayM: step 2 is ambiguous

16:22:05 [benadida]

Chime: what's our criteria for resolving step 2?

16:22:32 [HarryH]

The question is whether if it's a test-suite implementation issue or a substantive issue. Apparently due to DanC's disagreement we should re-open the issue.

16:23:23 [benadida]

MurrayM: if we remain silent on XInclude and PSVI, then both approaches would be correct.

16:23:28 [HarryH]

RESOLVED: re-open issue "faithful-infoset" as given by: (split it out of issue-mt-ns) and close it a la: The GRDDL WG does not mandate XInclude and further XML processing on the source document before the transformation to RDF, and write a caveat in the specification recommending XPROC when this is the case. (benA and BrianS abstaining)

16:24:25 [benadida]

HarryH: two approaches: DanC says we don't do PSVI or Xinclude, Chime says we don't express an opinion

16:24:39 [benadida]

MurrayM: is that DanC's opinion?

16:24:43 [benadida]

DanC: is this test suite or spec?

16:24:48 [benadida]

HarryH: this is a substantive discussion

16:25:36 [benadida]

RESOLVE to table the issue

16:25:38 [DanC]

agenda + issue faithful-infoset

16:25:46 [HarryH]

Zakim, next item

16:25:46 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "[#issue-output-formats] whether GRDDL transformations may produce RDF in a format other than RDF/XML" taken up

16:26:14 [HarryH]

Zakim, close item

16:26:14 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'close item', HarryH

16:26:17 [HarryH]

Zakim, close this item

16:26:17 [Zakim]

agendum 3 closed

16:26:18 [Zakim]

I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

16:26:19 [Zakim]

4. GRDDL and (non-XML) HTML

16:26:23 [HarryH]

Zakim, open item 2

16:26:23 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "Test cases for GRDDL with XML documents" taken up

16:26:44 [benadida]

DanC: Chime can't commit to CVS

16:27:09 [benadida]

... I've copied test stuff into a different source control.

16:27:17 [benadida]

Chime: working on HL7 to RDF use case

16:27:21 [benadida]

... not committed yet

16:28:07 [benadida]

... committing now where I can

16:28:24 [benadida]

... in Mercurial

16:28:27 [DanC]

http://homer.w3.org:8123/

16:29:01 [DanC]

hg clone http://homer.w3.org:8123/ my-work-space

16:29:33 [benadida]

DanC: Brian has mailed a couple of tests

16:29:42 [benadida]

HarryH: we should get him CVS access

16:30:09 [HarryH]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Dec/0028.html

16:30:09 [DanC]

I see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#base-param

16:30:21 [HarryH]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1.html#base-param

16:31:17 [chimezie]

[[[

16:31:19 [chimezie]

chimezie@Zion:~/devel/grddl-hg-test$ hg push http://homer.w3.org:8123/

16:31:19 [chimezie]

pushing to http://homer.w3.org:8123/

16:31:19 [chimezie]

** unknown exception encountered, details follow

16:31:19 [chimezie]

** report bug details to mercurial@selenic.com

16:31:27 [benadida]

DanC: we're not quite ready to approve the test cases.

16:31:30 [chimezie]

File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mercurial/localrepo.py", line 893, in push

16:31:30 [chimezie]

lock = remote.lock()

16:31:30 [chimezie]

AttributeError: httprepository instance has no attribute 'lock'

16:31:31 [chimezie]

]]]

16:31:57 [HarryH]

Propose we play test suite stuff meeting proper.

16:32:08 [benadida]

HarryH: I'll work on base-param

16:32:16 [HarryH]

ACTION: To test #base-param and e-mail group

16:32:26 [HarryH]

Zakim, next item

16:32:26 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "GRDDL and (non-XML) HTML" taken up

16:32:37 [HarryH]

Zakim, open item 2

16:32:37 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "Test cases for GRDDL with XML documents" taken up

16:32:46 [HarryH]

Briansuda - test suite access?

16:33:04 [benadida]

ACTION: DanC to give Brian McBride CVS access

16:34:10 [benadida]

ACTION: Ben to find access to GRDDL w3 cvs access

16:34:19 [DanC]

(well, benadida, collaborating by hg is a possibility)

16:35:32 [benadida]

HarryH: DanC, what do you recommend for source control? Hg, CVS, a combo?

16:35:38 [benadida]

DanC: priorities?

16:35:55 [benadida]

HarryH: fastest path to last call

16:36:23 [benadida]

Chime: spec editing is the high priority

16:36:57 [benadida]

HarryH: for now, email Harry test cases.

16:37:01 [chimezie]

nope, I didn't - i'll send it again

16:37:15 [HarryH]

Zakim, next item

16:37:15 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "GRDDL and (non-XML) HTML" taken up

16:37:20 [HarryH]

Zakim, open item 3

16:37:20 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "[#issue-output-formats] whether GRDDL transformations may produce RDF in a format other than RDF/XML" taken up

16:38:09 [DanC]

ACTION: DanC to add N3/turtle mime type to Atom/turtle test case, noting the unregistered status [CONTINUES]

16:38:24 [DanC]

ACTION: DanC to write rules about XSLT 1.0 processing context [CONTINUES]

16:38:55 [DanC]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Jan/0012.html hGRDDL example

16:42:19 [chimezie]

I don't have enough context for this scenario

16:43:47 [DanC]

<head profile="http://www.w3.org/2006/03/hcard">

16:46:17 [benadida]

discussion of RDFa output use case (hGRDDL)

16:47:52 [benadida]

DanC: run all transforms, and chooses what to do with outputs

16:49:50 [HarryH]

Note that you would use javascript MIME type to distinguish whether or not to run javascript, if your GRDDL client is javascript enabled it will run it, otherwise it won't

16:50:53 [benadida]

BenA: worried about how "clean" this approach is.

16:53:14 [chimezie]

i'd like to try Ben's RDFa parser against the output of a clientside firefox transformation of this hGRDDL example

16:54:31 [benadida]

HarryH: might be worth building all of GRDDL in this javascript implementation

16:55:53 [benadida]

HarryH: is it difficult to make test suite accept multiple correct outputs

16:56:35 [benadida]

DanC: there are cases in the spec with multiple correct results

16:56:52 [benadida]

... either result is correct, as is their merge. So far test suite only has maximal result.

16:57:27 [benadida]

Chime: you'd have to explicitly do a non-lean-graph merging to handle this situation properly.

16:57:53 [benadida]

DanC: how about checking in one graph, two serializations of it.

16:58:31 [benadida]

DanC: even in the turtle case, I thought we would have only RDF/XML in the test suite.

16:58:40 [benadida]

HarryH: we won't get away with this in the RDFa case.

16:59:02 [benadida]

DanC: when you run the test, transformation produces Turtle, then compare graphs.

16:59:50 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/hGRDDL_Example

17:00:37 [benadida]

... for testing purposes, the implementation of the hGRDDL test could produce NTriples

17:00:49 [HarryH]

Chime, we'll move to your health-care primer test-case here.

17:00:56 [HarryH]

After this discussion.

17:01:06 [chimezie]

Ok

17:02:15 [DanC]

. ACTION benadida: work on hGRDDL test, checking it in, and propose it to the WG for approval

17:02:28 [DanC]

(60-90min)

17:02:45 [HarryH]

Zakim, open item 8

17:02:45 [Zakim]

agendum 8. "Primer Document" taken up

17:03:25 [benadida]

Chime: test case with sample HL7 document (official HL7 example), associated with transform that produces RDF using ontology I've been working on.

17:03:43 [benadida]

... working on whether stylesheet captures only sample doc elements, or larger portion of HL7 schema

17:03:49 [benadida]

... test case by end of this week

17:03:56 [HarryH]

BrianSuda - primer?

17:04:28 [briansuda]

still working on it

17:04:39 [briansuda]

clearing up the sparql

17:04:49 [Zakim]

-Chimezie_Ogbuji

17:04:55 [HarryH]

All the same data is checked in.

17:05:20 [HarryH]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc29/primer.html

17:05:24 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc29/primer.html Revision 1.25 2007/01/09 23:54:10

17:05:31 [HarryH]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc29/hotel-data.html

17:06:14 [benadida]

HarryH: progress on hotel data section of primer, but not done

17:06:15 [HarryH]

Zakim, close this item

17:06:15 [Zakim]

agendum 8 closed

17:06:16 [Zakim]

I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

17:06:17 [Zakim]

4. GRDDL and (non-XML) HTML

17:06:26 [HarryH]

Zakim, open item 4

17:06:26 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "GRDDL and (non-XML) HTML" taken up

17:06:36 [HarryH]

The word "Scraping" has been removed.

17:06:42 [benadida]

HarryH: word "scraping" has been removed

17:07:00 [benadida]

... issue of tag-soup HTML. Fabian is on vacation until next week.

17:07:01 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc43/scenario-gallery.htm#html_tidy_use_case

17:07:07 [DanC]

"Use case #8 - Pulling Data from the Web: Steffen wants to build a directory of the people he works with.

17:07:07 [DanC]

"

17:07:22 [HarryH]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc43/scenario-gallery.htm#html_tidy_use_case

17:07:31 [benadida]

... removed word "scraping".

17:07:44 [HarryH]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007JanMar/0001.html

17:08:24 [benadida]

... Norm Gray: glad that it's a use case to use tidy. But running a few GRDDL transforms to try it out might be interesting as a separate use case.

17:08:32 [benadida]

... not sure we should have these kinds of use cases.

17:09:07 [DanC]

"The script also systematically calls some classic transformations on the document in case these were not explicitly referenced in the page (e.g. FOAF and Dublin Core extraction, and the like)."

17:09:27 [HarryH]

The script also systematically calls some classic transformations on the document in case these were not explicitly referenced in the page (e.g. FOAF and Dublin Core extraction, and the like).

17:09:36 [benadida]

HarryH: I could see that, but that's getting far from our goals.

17:09:49 [benadida]

RESOLVE to remove this sentence

17:09:55 [HarryH]

ACTION: HarryH to remove the sentence: "The script also systematically calls some classic transformations on the document in case these were not explicitly referenced in the page (e.g. FOAF and Dublin Core extraction, and the like)."

17:10:59 [HarryH]

Zakim, close this item

17:11:00 [Zakim]

agendum 4 closed

17:11:01 [Zakim]

I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

17:11:03 [Zakim]

5. Cross-document Introduction

17:11:10 [benadida]

HarryH: haven't heard from Ian in a bit.

17:11:15 [HarryH]

Zakim, open item 6

17:11:15 [Zakim]

agendum 6. "[#issue-mt-ns]" taken up

17:11:29 [benadida]

... faithful infoset caveat

17:11:51 [benadida]

MurrayM: haven't written it yet. started a good discussion, then dead over holiday, it would be good to pick up now.

17:11:56 [benadida]

DanC: waiting for spec text.

17:12:20 [DanC]

ACTION: Murry to draft paragraph giving us caveat for faithful infoset issue closure. [CONTINUES]

17:12:37 [HarryH]

BrianSuda - do you want to write the content negotiation test-case?

17:13:03 [benadida]

HarryH: content negotiation use case is quite important

17:13:31 [DanC]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Nov/0082 RE: Rules bug? format negotiation and GRDDL

17:14:06 [benadida]

DanC: consider our weekly agenda served in HTML or RDF.

17:14:25 [benadida]

... the online GRDDL service gets RDF and is then all confused

17:14:31 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2003/11/rdf-in-xhtml-demo

17:15:07 [benadida]

... the spec should say "if you get RDF, you win! stop!"

17:15:35 [DanC]

"Note issue issue-mt-ns is open. perhaps: special case for the RDF/XML namespace: RDF/XML documents are associated with RDF graphs as per the RDF/XML specification."

17:16:06 [benadida]

... I have to think about this some more, it's on the todo list

17:16:50 [benadida]

ACTION: DanC to write spec text for content negotiation use case. (Specifically recognizing RDF)

17:17:04 [benadida]

ACTION: HarryH to check in a test case on content negotiation

17:17:55 [benadida]

HarryH: is everyone in agreement with DanC's explanation that, if you get RDF/XML, you sto?

17:18:00 [benadida]

s/sto?/stop?/

17:18:25 [benadida]

Murray: it's not a GRDDL result

17:18:28 [benadida]

DanC: I think it is

17:18:41 [benadida]

... a degenerate case of GRDDL

17:19:23 [benadida]

... a GRDDL result is an RDF graph

17:19:44 [benadida]

... if RDF/XML comes back, then the work is done

17:20:25 [benadida]

Murray: there is no GRDDL transformation, there can be no GRDDL result

17:20:46 [benadida]

... the goal of GRDDL is to get an RDF result from something that isn't

17:20:49 [benadida]

DanC: not necessarily

17:22:19 [benadida]

Murray: the conclusion that "it's a graph, so it's a result" is a leap

17:23:25 [benadida]

DanC: some parts of the spec won't work if we do it this way

17:23:28 [benadida]

HarryH: what parts?

17:24:33 [benadida]

DanC: P3Q case is problematic

17:24:41 [DanC]

3. Using GRDDL with XML Namespace Documents http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec

17:26:45 [benadida]

Murray: you're saying a GRDDL result is the same thing as an RDF graph

17:27:06 [benadida]

DanC: different vision of what the spec is supposed to do.

17:28:26 [HarryH]

Zakim, close item

17:28:26 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'close item', HarryH

17:28:30 [HarryH]

Zakim, close this item

17:28:30 [Zakim]

agendum 6 closed

17:28:31 [Zakim]

I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

17:28:33 [Zakim]

5. Cross-document Introduction

17:28:36 [benadida]

BenA: we should be careful to consider other RDF serializations, too.

17:29:17 [benadida]

HarryH: put remaining open issues in front or rear of agenda?

17:29:18 [benadida]

DanC: open first

17:29:20 [HarryH]

Open issues first.

17:29:24 [Zakim]

-Murray_Maloney

17:29:26 [benadida]

adjourned

17:29:27 [HarryH]

Meeting adjourned

17:29:33 [briansuda]

HarryH, are you sticking around?

17:29:48 [DanC]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

17:29:48 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-grddl-wg-minutes.html DanC

17:29:52 [Zakim]

-RonR

17:29:54 [HarryH]

I have to grab lunch but I'll be online all day and am happy to play with SPARQL.

17:29:59 [HarryH]

And work on primer stuff.

17:30:01 [Zakim]

-BrianSuda

17:30:20 [DanC]

RRSAgent, make logs world-access

17:30:26 [briansuda]

HarryH, i have just about everything working now, there is an issue with grokXFN.xsl

17:30:38 [briansuda]

it doesn't seem to produce valid RDF

17:30:48 [briansuda]

i'll email you have i have and finished so far

17:31:25 [Zakim]

-Murray

17:31:31 [DanC]

Meeting: GRDDL Weekly

17:31:33 [DanC]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

17:31:33 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-grddl-wg-minutes.html DanC

17:31:41 [DanC]

Zakim, list attendees

17:31:41 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been Ben_Adida, +1.919.457.aaaa, +1.703.861.aabb, DanC, Murray_Maloney, Chimezie_Ogbuji, RonR, Murray, BrianSuda

17:31:45 [DanC]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

17:31:45 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-grddl-wg-minutes.html DanC

17:33:03 [Zakim]

-DanC

17:33:08 [Zakim]

-Ben_Adida

17:33:09 [Zakim]

SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended

17:33:11 [Zakim]

Attendees were Ben_Adida, +1.919.457.aaaa, +1.703.861.aabb, DanC, Murray_Maloney, Chimezie_Ogbuji, RonR, Murray, BrianSuda

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hmm...