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14:53:52 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS Working Group
14:53:55 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
14:53:57 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
14:54:03 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
14:55:03 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0050.html
14:55:08 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
14:58:38 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
14:58:45 <Zakim> +Yves
15:00:17 <Zakim> +Felix
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15:03:20 <chriLi> Hi guys: I am still in a meeting. Will join you as soon as possible. Sorry.
15:03:30 <fsasaki> ok
15:03:30 <YvesS> ok Christian.
15:04:20 <fsasaki> rahtz?
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15:04:34 <rahtz> I am on another telco, will try to close it down
15:04:50 <YvesS> ok
15:04:59 <Zakim> +??P6
15:05:35 <fsasaki> topic: action items
15:06:03 <fsasaki> ACTION: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with without the <ns> element, using xmlns instead. (PENDING)
15:06:15 <fsasaki> Andrzej: hopefully will be done this week
15:07:03 <fsasaki> ACTION: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works the right way (PENDING)
15:07:23 <fsasaki> Andrzej: will pass this now to my engineer
15:08:02 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to add a link to the script in the implementation report (DONE)
15:08:42 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to check if "publication" as a form of test report script on w3c server is possible (ONGOING)
15:08:53 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/
15:09:53 <Zakim> +Sebastian_Rahtz
15:10:36 <fsasaki> Felix: wanted to use this XSLT interface http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/ for upload
15:10:49 <fsasaki> .. of a file with your input data and result data
15:11:14 <fsasaki> .. the file would have the format at http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/input-file-list.xml
15:12:01 <fsasaki> Yves: would be good
15:12:30 <fsasaki> Yves to extract the result format for each data category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp. Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal (ONGOING)
15:12:50 <fsasaki> ACTION: Yves to extract the result format for each data category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp. Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal (ONGOING)
15:13:02 <fsasaki> Felix: need to create s.t. for ruby and directionality
15:13:13 <fsasaki> Yves: we need to address different namespace
15:14:15 <fsasaki> Felix: I would just put all ITS markup into the result namespace
15:14:41 <fsasaki> .. when I finish the XSLT script, I'll make a list of all "output" markup
15:15:00 <fsasaki> Yves: so you can adapt your implementations to use that
15:15:28 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to make sure we have test examples for direcionality and ruby (DONE)
15:16:07 <fsasaki> Felix: added the examples from the draft, we have both global and local, no examples for ruby pointer attributes yet
15:16:19 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0074.html
15:16:47 <fsasaki> topic: AI 03
15:16:54 <fsasaki> Sebastian: no further comments
15:16:59 <fsasaki> Andrzej: o.k.
15:17:21 <Zakim> +??P12
15:18:16 <fsasaki> ACTION: Christian to send an update with Yves' feedback on AI 03 included
15:18:16 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0075.html
15:18:44 <fsasaki> topic: AI 04 from the agenda
15:18:56 <fsasaki> Yves: "caveat" does not fit maybe
15:19:05 <fsasaki> Sebastian: Clarification is a clearer word
15:19:40 <fsasaki> ACTION: Yves to add the inheritance example to CVS
15:20:03 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0073.html
15:20:07 <fsasaki> topic: New ITS comments
15:20:37 <fsasaki> Yves: the comment about XLink is troubesome
15:20:52 <fsasaki> Sebastian: we have to add an attribute to our schema?
15:21:11 <fsasaki> Yves: XLink has the "type" attribute
15:21:31 <fsasaki> .. we have to change the exampes
15:21:38 <fsasaki> Sebastian: it does not effect the implementations
15:22:17 <fsasaki> .. does the XLink type attribute to be compulsory?
15:23:32 <fsasaki> ACTION: Sebastian to add the XLink type attribute to the test suite files, Felix to do the same with the files related to the ODD file
15:23:42 <fsasaki> Yves: the other issue is the "version" attribute
15:24:47 <fsasaki> .. Jirka was asking why we have the "version" attribute in a namespace
15:27:41 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to go back to Jirka on the "version" attribute saying we don't see a lot of gain from the change
15:27:58 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to ask Jirka about whether he wants to participate in ITS actively
15:28:39 <fsasaki> ACTION: editors to go to the draft and check that there are no "CSS style elements" or the like
15:30:23 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to change links from the WD to examples, so that they link to the input data directory
15:31:08 <fsasaki> Sebastian: on the name() function: you could use local-name() instead
15:31:24 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to make the schematron fix
15:31:43 <fsasaki> Yves: last issue: how does versioning work?
15:32:03 <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to go back to Jirka and explain versioning
15:32:40 <fsasaki> topic: open ITS issues
15:32:54 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=ITS&component=ITS+tagset&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssub
15:33:41 <fsasaki> Yves: we are working on http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4096
15:34:10 <fsasaki> Sebastian: for http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3319 , we are waiting for Andrzej?
15:34:16 <fsasaki> Yves: yes
15:35:32 <fsasaki> Felix: Sebastian, is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0065.html still an issue?
15:35:56 <fsasaki> Sebastian: I think that's my problem, no need to track it for 4096
15:36:16 <fsasaki> Yves: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4098 is also ongoing with the editors
15:36:35 <fsasaki> .. 4099 is the implementation format
15:38:12 <fsasaki> ACTION: Editors to add to a draft s.t. about the output of ITS processing
15:38:53 <fsasaki> Felix: like "This spec defines ITS markup and its interpretation and processing. It does not define the result of the processing. That depends on the implementation"
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15:39:14 <fsasaki> Yves: on http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3941
15:39:42 <fsasaki> .. do we need a description in the draft on how to handle whose?
15:39:52 <fsasaki> .. also no description for multiple notes as the result
15:40:11 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-i18nits-minutes.html#item03
15:41:10 <fsasaki> Felix: maybe we don't need BP about XPath in the tagset document, maybe we can have this in the BP document
15:42:12 <fsasaki> Christian: will the BP not focus on non-ITS stuff?
15:42:25 <fsasaki> Yves: no, there will be ITS stuff as well
15:42:28 <fsasaki> Christian: ok
15:43:10 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: close 3941 : we don't need BP about XPath in the tagset document, maybe we can have this in the BP document
15:43:54 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
15:44:44 <Zakim> -Sebastian_Rahtz
15:44:48 <Zakim> -Christian
15:44:49 <Zakim> -Felix
15:44:50 <Zakim> -Yves
15:44:52 <Zakim> -Andrzej
15:44:53 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
15:44:55 <fsasaki> Felix: everybody waiting for XSLT implementation of the test compare script, will do that ASAP
15:44:55 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves, Felix, Andrzej, Sebastian_Rahtz, Christian
15:45:48 <fsasaki> present: Adrzej, Christian, Felix, Sebastian, Yves
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