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14:53:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DBWG
14:53:42 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:53:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Databinding WG Teleconference
14:53:43 <trackbot> Date: 19 December 2006
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14:58:59 <pauld> scribe: pauld
14:59:02 <pauld> chair: pauld
14:59:06 <pauld> Agenda:
14:59:48 <pauld> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/0007.html
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15:00:26 <Zakim> +??P18
15:01:44 <pauld> zakim, code?
15:01:44 <Zakim> the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), pauld
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15:01:52 <Zakim> +Paul_Downey
15:02:19 <pauld> zakim, ??P18 is gcowe
15:02:19 <Zakim> +gcowe; got it
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15:02:46 <pauld> zakim, ??P32 is vlad
15:02:46 <Zakim> +vlad; got it
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15:05:11 <Zakim> +Yves
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15:11:23 <pauld> yves: can't make the 8-9the
15:12:01 <pauld> pauld: Ok, following week 13-15th in Nice
15:12:16 <pauld> ACTION: ylafon to book room in Nice 13-15th 
15:12:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Book room in Nice 13-15th  [on Yves Lafon - due 2006-12-26].
15:12:23 <vlad> vlad: i'm not available at that time
15:13:56 <pauld> minutes from last telcon approved
15:14:55 <pauld> Topic: ISSUE-2: test suite
15:14:58 <pauld> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/0000.html
15:15:34 <pauld> vlad: had problems with xs:include, propose not using includes, include the patterns in the example schemas
15:17:05 <pauld> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/StringElement/
15:18:19 <pauld> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/StringElement/StringElement.xsd
15:21:22 <pauld> pauld: are you saying the  <<   element ref=""   >> pattern is possibly problematic?
15:21:35 <pauld> vlad: this one looks fine
15:23:20 <vlad> <xs:element name="targetNamespace" type="xs:string"/>
15:23:23 <vlad> was missing
15:24:13 <pauld> pauld: in the case of TargetNamespace we have a generic issue with examples which are complete schemas
15:24:23 <pauld> vlad: these examples are incomplete
15:26:25 <pauld> pauld: first issue is one which george picked up around generating static include files
15:26:55 <pauld> pauld: second is complete schemas don't have the echo element in the generated echoXXX.xsd schema and WSDL
15:27:24 <pauld> ACTION: pdowney to fix echo examples for complete schemas such as TargetNamespace
15:27:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Fix echo examples for complete schemas such as TargetNamespace [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].
15:29:17 <pauld> pauld: not worried with the TargetNamespace example (coverage)  but includes need fixing
15:30:04 <pauld> yves: currently working on removing spurious text nodes (insignificant whitespace) for XMLUnit comparison
15:30:26 <pauld> pauld: been try Axis testing working sought assistance within BT
15:30:56 <pauld> pauld: no feed back from outside the Working Group, which is a worry
15:31:57 <pauld> pauld: will contact some developers directly
15:32:55 <pauld> Topic: ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
15:33:13 <pauld> yves: nothing new on hosting the service
15:33:59 <pauld> ACTION: pdowney to resurrect the generated schemtron stylesheet
15:34:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Resurrect the generated schemtron stylesheet [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].
15:35:32 <pauld> nice list of schemas in the wild posted to comments list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding-comments/2006Dec/0002.html
15:36:25 <pauld> gcowe: continue to use the patterns detector internally
15:36:39 <pauld> Topic:  ISSUE-99: XSLT 2.0 terminology?
15:37:04 <pauld> pauld: took an action, proposal still in my email buffer
15:37:25 <pauld> Topic: ISSUE-100: LC: Basic Profile Compliant Import
15:38:19 <pauld> pauld: this seems to be the only way to import a schema into a WSDL, access the elements from messages and be BP compliant
15:38:30 <pauld> gcowe: not a chameleon schema!
15:38:34 <pauld> pauld: no!
15:40:03 <pauld> pauld: could be an issue, i'm not convinced it's valid due to schema import not being transitive
15:40:29 <pauld> ACTION: pdowney to craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100 transitive import
15:40:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100 transitive import [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].
15:41:22 <pauld> paul bores the WG with his explanation 
15:41:32 <pauld> gcowe: we don't encounter this issue.
15:42:18 <pauld> pauld: could be an issue for the Basic Patterns document becasue no targetNamespace isn't allowed
15:43:00 <pauld> .. suspect we could add this pattern if it's incorrect but could be a substabtive change
15:44:19 <pauld> s/substb/substan/
15:44:34 <pauld> jonc: so it's currently advanced?
15:45:12 <pauld> .. can we craft a pattern to capture just this use
15:45:37 <pauld> pauld: yes, we can detect noTargetNamespace schemas with nothing but imports in them
15:46:32 <pauld> pauld: thinks the elements in the imported schema won't be available to a validator
15:46:53 <pauld> Topic: ISSUE-101: fractionDigits, minLength and maxLength proposed patterns
15:47:04 <pauld> pauld: new issue from George
15:47:18 <pauld> gcowe: we found some patterns in our document
15:48:32 <pauld> .. currently have patterns but these apply to xs:string, added patterns for our cases
15:48:34 <pauld> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/0006
15:49:39 <pauld> pauld: three patterns in one issue?
15:49:55 <pauld> gcowe: fractions belongs with totalDigits
15:50:04 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 10 minutes; all ports must be freed
15:52:08 <pauld> pauld: exercised how to process patterns with respect to the issues list
15:52:52 <pauld> pauld: been adding new patterns as "pending"
15:55:04 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 5 minutes; all ports must be freed
15:56:09 <pauld> pauld: would like George (and possibly Jon) to have CVS access and work from the patterns.xml and examples.xml rather than the ISSUES list
15:56:30 <pauld> pauld: we can batch accept patterns as Advanced and track as ISSUES at the F2F
15:57:51 <pauld> RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-101 as Advanced patterns
15:58:05 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 2 minutes; all ports must be freed
15:58:42 <Zakim> -vlad
15:58:44 <Zakim> -Jon_Calladine
15:58:44 <Zakim> -Yves
15:58:46 <Zakim> -Paul_Downey
15:58:53 <Zakim> -gcowe
15:58:54 <Zakim> WS_DBWG()10:00AM has ended
15:58:56 <Zakim> Attendees were Paul_Downey, gcowe, vlad, Jon_Calladine, Yves
15:59:17 <pauld> pauld: happy Christmas/New Year/Holidays everybody, see you on the 16th Jan 
15:59:29 <pauld> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:59:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html pauld
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