IRC log of ua on 2006-12-14

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meeting: UAWG conference call
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Chair: Jim Allan
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Scribe: JR
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2006OctDec/0043.html
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zakim, ??P2 is JR
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+JR; got it
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+parente; got it
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JA: Registration for tech plenary is open
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http://www.w3.org/2007/01/MGMoverview.html
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Scribe: JR
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JA: WCAG not coming...
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CL: But Becky coming to UAWG group
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JA: Tuesday joint time with PF
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CL: Do we have an issues doc?
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JA: Yes 1/3 done
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CL: Very helpful to send to becky
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JA: Talke to John Slatin about keypress issue and he recommended talking to Becky
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CL: Aaron hopefully will hae some time too in Boston
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http://www.w3.org/2007/01/MGMoverview.html plenary information
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Topic: 12.1 Provide accessible documentation (P1)
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update for WCAG 2.0 whne available
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JR: - Maybe we should say Double-A of WCAG 1.0 or WCAG 2.0?
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- What about promoting the accessibility of installation codes and
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documentation to be a requirement.
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CL: Packaging issue
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software key for licensed installation
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CL: Code is unique per CD
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JA: This is a high bar...should stay a technique
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CL: Generally UA's are downloads with no codes.
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PP: Online activation for JAWS
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JR: main thought is that all steps in installation should be accessible
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action: JA to write technique to allow online registration for licensed products
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Topic: 12.2 Provide documentation of accessibility features (P1)
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JA: This is P1 but requires P2?
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JR: Couldn't we solve this by saying "if the functionality exits"
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JR: (investigates ATAG2 approach)
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JA: Prob non-issue
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action: JA Couldn't we solve this by saying "if the functionality exits"
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Topic: 12.3 Provide documentation of default bindings
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CL: Suff technique states the obvious
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JA: Strange wording here too
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Action JA: Remove suuff technique from 12.3
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Topic: 12.4 Provide documentation of changes between versions (P2)
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JA, JR: OK with it
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Topi: 12.5 Provide dedicated accessibility section (P2)
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Topic: 12.5 Provide dedicated accessibility section (P2)
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JR: Concerned about dedicated area
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CL: Can get around it if central help area pointed to integrated areas.
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PP: Can get around it if integrated areas point to central accessibility area.
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JA: Wondered about normative inclusions...
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CL: They seem to be pointing to 8.1 via 12.2, it should be changed to point directly
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JR: This wording also misses UA features should as list of links.
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action: JA need to expand here include content info from 8.1 and techniques of 12.2
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CL: use wording "All User Agent features that benefit accessibility"
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JR: (Missed noting myself)
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CL: So what needs to documented regarding access keys.
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CL: how a UA handles accesskey should be documented, bring up a list, how to activate
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CL: handling access key...
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CL: There is "developer" help that talks abouting handling of all elements
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CL: "user help" includes all keys to press for features etc
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JA: User still needs to know that the user does something with alt text etc
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JA: "Yes you can get list of headings by pressing shift-/ etc."
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JR: Much clarification in wording
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CL: #2 needs more around conformance detail
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JA: Just there for clarity
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CL: Really conformance scope
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JR: In ATAG we have a term: "accessible content support features "
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JR: That then references the checkpoints covered
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CL: Just a few more words to clarify under normative
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CL: To clarify that we are talking about user agent features
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action: JA 12.5 needs clarification in wording in normative inclusion 1, specifing user agent features rather than content.
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JA: OK because of schedules...
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JA: NExt UAAG meeting on Jan 11!
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JA: Will come back with issue list - and we will be doing F2F planning
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-cklaws
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-Jim_Allan
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/14-ua-minutes.html JR
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RRSAgent, set logs public
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Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/14-ua-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: JA to write technique to allow online registration for licensed products [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/14-ua-irc#T19-15-55
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ACTION: JA Couldn't we solve this by saying "if the functionality exits" [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/14-ua-irc#T19-20-49
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ACTION: JA to Remove suuff technique from 12.3 [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/14-ua-irc#T19-24-35
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ACTION: JA need to expand here include content info from 8.1 and techniques of 12.2 [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/14-ua-irc#T19-33-37
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ACTION: JA 12.5 needs clarification in wording in normative inclusion 1, specifing user agent features rather than content. [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/14-ua-irc#T19-48-00