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14:40:43 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS Working Group
14:40:44 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
14:40:46 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
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15:01:26 <fsasaki> zakim, dial felix-home
15:01:26 <Zakim> sorry, fsasaki, I don't know what conference this is
15:01:56 <fsasaki> zakim, this will be i18n
15:01:56 <Zakim> ok, fsasaki; I see I18N_TS()10:00AM scheduled to start now
15:01:59 <fsasaki> zakim, dial felix-home
15:01:59 <Zakim> ok, fsasaki; the call is being made
15:02:00 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
15:02:01 <Zakim> +Felix
15:02:02 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0047.html
15:02:08 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
15:03:09 <fsasaki> hello rahtz and chriLi ?
15:05:20 <rahtz> I'm just finishing another telco, I wil be there in a few minutes
15:05:40 <fsasaki> o.k.
15:05:50 <fsasaki> I'm waiting (I'm alone :(
15:06:51 <Zakim> +Sebastian_Rahtz
15:08:19 <Zakim> +??P11
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15:09:30 <fsasaki> topic: action items
15:09:43 <fsasaki> Andrzej to check if his implementation works with without the
15:09:44 <fsasaki> <ns> element, using xmlns instead (PENDING)
15:09:49 <fsasaki> action: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with without the
15:09:50 <fsasaki> <ns> element, using xmlns instead (PENDING)
15:10:04 <fsasaki> Felix to explain what axes are possible with the XSLT pattern used in the match attributes (DONE)
15:10:08 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0043.html
15:11:06 <fsasaki> Sebastian: We agreed to add some prose to the spec to say "this sub set will make your life easier"
15:11:35 <fsasaki> .. I don't think it is a pre-condition of ITS that it must be 100% implementable using XSLT
15:11:44 <fsasaki> Felix: agree
15:12:12 <fsasaki> Christian: where in the spec should the note go?
15:13:08 <fsasaki> action: editors to add a note to the spec about the subset of XPath in XSLT
15:13:33 <fsasaki> (AI relying on the thread at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0043.html)
15:13:43 <fsasaki> action: Felix to write a script which compares the results (DONE)
15:13:46 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0045.html
15:14:19 <fsasaki> <fileList>
15:14:20 <fsasaki>     <inputFile name="LocNote1.xml">
15:14:22 <fsasaki>         <resultFile location="test2/LocNote1-result.xml"
15:14:23 <fsasaki> implementation="test2"/>
15:14:25 <fsasaki>     </inputFile>
15:14:26 <fsasaki>     <inputFile name="LocNote2.xml">
15:14:28 <fsasaki>         <resultFile location="test2/LocNote2-result.xml"
15:14:29 <fsasaki> implementation="test2"/>
15:14:31 <fsasaki>     </inputFile>
15:14:32 <fsasaki> ... </fileList>
15:15:30 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/
15:15:58 <fsasaki> Felix: I thought of the script to use it for generating the test suite results, see link above
15:17:20 <fsasaki> .. in the result format, only the link to various tests is missing
15:17:27 <fsasaki> Sebastian: need to test this
15:18:08 <fsasaki> Christian: should we make that script available on a web site?
15:18:32 <fsasaki> .. to make automatic comparison possible?
15:19:08 <fsasaki> action: Felix to check if "publication" as a form of test report script on w3c server is possible
15:19:49 <fsasaki> Felix: as a start, we could add a link to the script in the implementation report
15:20:02 <fsasaki> action: Felix to add a link to the script in the implementation report
15:20:27 <fsasaki> action:  Sebastian to insert some pointer-like data category information into the huge test file (DONE)
15:20:59 <fsasaki> action: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works the right way (ONGOING)
15:21:31 <fsasaki> action: Yves to make sure to have both the ns elements and xmlns attributes in the test files, intermediately (DONE)
15:21:55 <fsasaki> topic: test suite - Format of the result files
15:23:06 <fsasaki> original thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0047.html
15:24:23 <fsasaki> current stage of discussion at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0052.html
15:24:32 <fsasaki> Sebastian: seems fine to me
15:25:33 <fsasaki> Christian: first I was worried, now I see it's an implementation issue, we are free to do what we want
15:28:27 <fsasaki> action: Yves to extract the result format for each data category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp. Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal
15:28:53 <fsasaki> an example would be e.g. <output translate="yes"/> versus <output its:translate="yes"/>
15:29:10 <fsasaki> topic: Namespace binding mechanism discussion
15:29:28 <fsasaki> We need Andrzej to confirm using xmlns is fine for XMLIntl's
15:29:30 <fsasaki> implementation.
15:29:56 <fsasaki> Sebastian: nothing new to discuss
15:30:26 <fsasaki> topic: Inheritence and Override
15:30:39 <fsasaki> We need some clarification text explaining inheritance stops at nodes
15:30:40 <fsasaki> already selected by another rule.
15:31:17 <fsasaki> action: editors to write some clarification text explaining inheritance stops at nodes
15:31:30 <fsasaki> Christian: suggest to use a text from a mail from Sebastian
15:31:36 <fsasaki> Felix: fine by me
15:32:00 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
15:33:03 <fsasaki> Sebastian: need to get results and checking with XQuery script
15:33:15 <fsasaki> .. my infrastructure and the reporting format is doing the right thing
15:34:02 <fsasaki> .. the implementation is called "spritser"
15:35:07 <fsasaki> Felix: hope to finish all data categories next week
15:35:34 <fsasaki> .. we need some more data for the test suite
15:36:19 <fsasaki> Sebastian: we should make sure we are comprehensive
15:37:21 <fsasaki> Felix: Yves will not implement ruby, maybe also not directionality, we also need test data for ruby / directionality
15:38:43 <Zakim> -Sebastian_Rahtz
15:38:45 <Zakim> -Christian
15:38:46 <Zakim> -Felix
15:38:47 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
15:38:49 <Zakim> Attendees were Felix, Sebastian_Rahtz, Christian
15:39:09 <fsasaki> action: Felix to make sure we have test examples for direcionality and ruby
15:39:19 <fsasaki> present: Christian, Felix, Sebastian
15:39:22 <fsasaki> regrets: Yves
15:39:27 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:39:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
16:06:16 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-actions.rdf :
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with without the [1]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-09-49
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: editors to add a note to the spec about the subset of XPath in XSLT [2]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-13-08
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to write a script which compares the results (DONE) [3]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-13-43
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to check if "publication" as a form of test report script on w3c server is possible [4]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-19-08
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to add a link to the script in the implementation report [5]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-20-02
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sebastian to insert some pointer-like data category information into the huge test file (DONE) [6]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-20-27
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works the right way (ONGOING) [7]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-20-59
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to make sure to have both the ns elements and xmlns attributes in the test files, intermediately (DONE) [8]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-21-31
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to extract the result format for each data category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp. Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal [9]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-28-27
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: editors to write some clarification text explaining inheritance stops at nodes [10]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-31-17
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to make sure we have test examples for direcionality and ruby [11]
16:06:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-i18nits-irc#T15-39-09
16:06:20 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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