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14:51:47 <shadi> zakim, this will be ert
14:51:47 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
14:51:53 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
14:51:58 <shadi> chair: Shadi
14:52:30 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Dec/0051.html
14:52:44 <shadi> regrets: Shane, Daniela
14:52:55 <shadi> agenda+ publishing HTTP Vocabulary in RDF
14:53:11 <shadi> agenda+ addressing warnings in EARL
14:53:21 <shadi> agenda+ pick up on new listed issues
14:53:35 <shadi> agenda+ date for upcoming face-to-face
14:53:46 <shadi> agenda+ winter break meeting schedule
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15:00:14 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
15:00:17 <Zakim> +Shadi
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15:00:55 <Zakim> +berrueta
15:01:15 <davidr> davidr has joined #er
15:01:35 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
15:01:37 <Zakim> +??P8
15:01:55 <shadi> zakim, ??p8 is really David
15:01:55 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:02:13 <CarlosI> zakim, berrueta is really CarlosI
15:02:13 <Zakim> +CarlosI; got it
15:02:19 <JohannesK> zakim, klaus is really Johannes
15:02:19 <Zakim> +Johannes; got it
15:02:28 <shadi> regrets: Shane, Daniela, Shane
15:02:34 <shadi> regrets: Shane, Daniela, Charles
15:03:37 <shadi> scribe: Johannes
15:03:43 <shadi> scribenick: JohannesK
15:04:15 <shadi> agenda?
15:04:54 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:04:54 <Zakim> agendum 1. "publishing HTTP Vocabulary in RDF" taken up [from shadi]
15:05:12 <shadi> zakim, mute me
15:05:13 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
15:05:44 <JohannesK> SAZ: let's postpone agenda item 2 (addressing warnings in EARL)
15:06:04 <shadi> zakim, unmute me
15:06:04 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
15:06:36 <JohannesK> SAZ: thanks for the response
15:07:19 <JohannesK> RESOLUTION: publish 'HTTP vocabulary in RDF' as WD
15:07:21 <Zakim> +??P0
15:07:47 <shadi> zakim, ??p0 is really Chris
15:07:47 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
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15:08:15 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 1
15:08:15 <Zakim> agendum 1, publishing HTTP Vocabulary in RDF, closed
15:08:16 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:08:18 <Zakim> 2. addressing warnings in EARL [from shadi]
15:08:23 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:08:23 <Zakim> agendum 3. "pick up on new listed issues" taken up [from shadi]
15:09:11 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues
15:09:47 <JohannesK> SAZ: stability of foaf:Organization
15:10:02 <shadi> zakim, mute me
15:10:02 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
15:10:39 <JohannesK> CI: I'm in favour, incubator group think it's stable enough
15:10:48 <shadi> zakim, unmute me
15:10:48 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
15:11:18 <JohannesK> SAZ: any opposing ideas or concerns?
15:13:31 <JohannesK> SAZ: adopt foaf:Organization to be used as an earl:SingleAssertor (recommended like foaf:Person)
15:14:08 <JohannesK> RESOLUTION: adopt foaf:Organization to be used as an earl:SingleAssertor (recommended like foaf:Person)
15:14:34 <JohannesK> SAZ: renaming of earl:validity
15:14:45 <Zakim> +??P1
15:14:59 <shadi> zakim, ??p1 is really Jim
15:14:59 <Zakim> +Jim; got it
15:15:35 <JohannesK> SAZ: was comment by Phil Archer
15:15:44 <JohannesK> SAZ: could be earl:outcome instead
15:15:51 <JohannesK> SAZ: any comments?
15:17:09 <JohannesK> CI: Phil's comments make sense, validation is only one type of test; not sure about earl:outcome
15:18:37 <JohannesK> ACTION: david to find a nice alternative for validity
15:19:25 <JohannesK> s/nice alternative/couple of nice alternatives/
15:19:46 <JohannesK> SAZ: consider stand-alone pointer vocabulary
15:20:19 <JohannesK> SAZ: create WG note from that
15:21:15 <JohannesK> SAZ: Jim, would you like to?
15:21:27 <JohannesK> Jim: yes
15:22:24 <JohannesK> ACTION: Jim to create a WG note about pointer vocabulary
15:22:34 <JohannesK> SAZ: consider WCL "groups of resources"
15:23:34 <JohannesK> SAZ: was comment by Phil Archer
15:24:10 <JohannesK> SAZ: web content labelling incubator group is planning to work on this
15:24:27 <JohannesK> SAZ: it may take a while
15:26:53 <JohannesK> Jim: let's wait and see
15:28:02 <JohannesK> Jim: but publish before that
15:28:40 <JohannesK> SAZ: this seems to be the only open issue for the next WD
15:29:19 <JohannesK> RESOLUTION: we will not hold EARL publication, but will monitor development in WCL
15:30:00 <JohannesK> ACTION: SAZ to update issues list
15:30:24 <JohannesK> SAZ: everyone have a look at issues list
15:30:30 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 3
15:30:30 <Zakim> agendum 3, pick up on new listed issues, closed
15:30:32 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:30:34 <Zakim> 2. addressing warnings in EARL [from shadi]
15:30:38 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:30:38 <Zakim> agendum 4. "date for upcoming face-to-face" taken up [from shadi]
15:31:35 <JohannesK> SAZ: Charles does not recommend Oslo because of low temperature
15:32:35 <CarlosI> European W3C Symposium on eGovernment: http://www.w3c.es/Eventos/2007/eGov/
15:32:42 <JohannesK> SAZ: there's a symposion in Gijon at Feb 01/02 2007
15:33:36 <JohannesK> CI: beer is cheaper in Spain
15:35:59 <JohannesK> SAZ: sometime within Feb 19-23?
15:36:26 <JohannesK> SAZ: we'll probably have a Last Call by then
15:37:10 <JohannesK> SAZ: have a new editors' draft of schema document in January, then publish a WDLC
15:38:45 <JohannesK> SAZ: Carlos, how to fly to Gijon?
15:39:01 <JohannesK> CI: via Madrid or Barcelona
15:39:44 <JohannesK> CI: I could provide some logistics information
15:40:42 <JohannesK> SAZ: proposal Feb 22/23 2007 at CTIC in Gijon
15:41:17 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 4
15:41:17 <Zakim> agendum 4, date for upcoming face-to-face, closed
15:41:18 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:41:19 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 5
15:41:19 <Zakim> 2. addressing warnings in EARL [from shadi]
15:41:20 <Zakim> agendum 5. "winter break meeting schedule" taken up [from shadi]
15:42:11 <JohannesK> SAZ: last call this year next week, Dec 20?
15:42:45 <JohannesK> SAZ: first in 2007 will be Jan 17
15:43:23 <JohannesK> SAZ: anybody wants to meet at Dec 27?
15:43:27 <JohannesK> David: no
15:44:14 <JohannesK> Jim: short time between first call in 2007 and F2F (one month)
15:44:50 <CarlosI> In case you want to start looking for flights The closer airport is the Asturias Airport (IATA code: OVD), placed at 15 Km. from Avilés, 38 Km. from Gijón.
15:45:38 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 5
15:45:38 <Zakim> agendum 5, winter break meeting schedule, closed
15:45:39 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:45:40 <Zakim> 2. addressing warnings in EARL [from shadi]
15:45:41 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:45:41 <Zakim> agendum 2. "addressing warnings in EARL" taken up [from shadi]
15:46:22 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Dec/0003
15:46:30 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Dec/0049
15:47:20 <JohannesK> SAZ: first option is not to have warning at all
15:47:41 <JohannesK> SAZ: second option is to have a Literal warning property
15:47:57 <JohannesK> SAZ: third option is to have more complex warnings
15:50:22 <JohannesK> JK: second option is to have warning properties together with a PASS test result?
15:50:29 <JohannesK> SAZ: yes
15:51:10 <JohannesK> SAZ: warning property of TestResult
15:53:08 <JohannesK> CI: there won't be instances in second option
15:57:04 <JohannesK> JK: no need for a complex even for CSS validator warnings
15:57:23 <JohannesK> JK: TestResult with validity PASS, instance, and warning property
15:58:14 <JohannesK> SAZ: is a warning a property of the test result or of the test case?
15:59:33 <Zakim> -Chris
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16:02:03 <JohannesK> CI: should be in test result, not in test case description
16:07:31 <JohannesK> SAZ: send your opinions about warnings to the list
16:07:42 <JohannesK> SAZ: we should close this next week
16:07:43 <Zakim> -David
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16:07:46 <Zakim> -Jim
16:07:48 <Zakim> -Johannes
16:07:52 <Zakim> -Shadi
16:07:53 <Zakim> -CarlosI
16:07:56 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
16:07:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, David, CarlosI, Johannes, Chris, Jim
16:11:07 <shadi> Zakim, bye
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16:11:16 <shadi> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:11:21 <shadi> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:11:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-er-minutes.html shadi
16:11:26 <shadi> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:11:31 <shadi> RRSAgent, bye
16:11:31 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-er-actions.rdf :
16:11:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: david to find a nice alternative for validity [1]
16:11:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-er-irc#T15-18-37
16:11:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jim to create a WG note about pointer vocabulary [2]
16:11:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-er-irc#T15-22-24
16:11:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ to update issues list [3]
16:11:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-er-irc#T15-30-00