IRC log of swd on 2006-12-12
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc
- 15:58:45 [RalphS]
- rrsagent, please make record public
- 15:58:54 [Zakim]
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- 15:59:00 [RalphS]
- zakim, this will be swd
- 15:59:00 [Zakim]
- ok, RalphS, I see SW_SWD()11:00AM already started
- 15:59:06 [RalphS]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 15:59:07 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Tom_Baker, Michael_Hausenblas
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- +Ralph
- 15:59:36 [RalphS]
- zakim, Ben_Adida is with Ralph
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- +Ben_Adida; got it
- 15:59:54 [RalphS]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2006Dec/0049.html
- 16:00:18 [Zakim]
- +??P28
- 16:00:32 [Zakim]
- +JonP
- 16:00:34 [RalphS]
- zakim, ??p28 is Sean
- 16:00:34 [Zakim]
- +Sean; got it
- 16:01:12 [Bern]
- Bern has joined #swd
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- +CarlosI#
- 16:01:50 [berrueta]
- Zakim, CarlosI# is me
- 16:01:54 [Zakim]
- +berrueta; got it
- 16:02:15 [Zakim]
- +Bern
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- +??P10
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- 16:03:45 [aliman]
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- 16:03:52 [Zakim]
- +??P46
- 16:04:05 [RalphS]
- zakim, who's talking
- 16:04:05 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who's talking', RalphS
- 16:04:06 [RalphS]
- zakim, who's talking?
- 16:04:17 [Zakim]
- RalphS, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Tom_Baker (64%), Michael_Hausenblas (21%), Ralph (30%), Sean (10%), ??P46 (4%)
- 16:04:18 [aliman]
- zakim, ??P46 is aliman
- 16:04:20 [Zakim]
- +aliman; got it
- 16:04:23 [RalphS]
- zakim, mute michael
- 16:04:23 [Zakim]
- Michael_Hausenblas should now be muted
- 16:04:38 [RalphS]
- zakim, unmute michael
- 16:04:38 [Zakim]
- Michael_Hausenblas should no longer be muted
- 16:05:03 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 16:05:25 [RalphS]
- zakim, ipcaller is DanBri
- 16:05:25 [Zakim]
- +DanBri; got it
- 16:06:55 [danbri]
- (call me "danbri", its easier and very precedented hereabouts...)
- 16:07:37 [aliman]
- I just sent tidied minutes.
- 16:07:54 [aliman]
- (Apologies for delay)
- 16:08:11 [TomB]
- scribenick: seanb
- 16:08:14 [seanb]
- scribenick: seanb
- 16:08:38 [seanb]
- Topic: Admin
- 16:09:05 [mhausenblas]
- +1
- 16:09:26 [seanb]
- TomB: Propose to accept minutes
- 16:09:31 [seanb]
- Daniel: Accepted
- 16:09:38 [seanb]
- Daniel: seconded
- 16:10:11 [seanb]
- ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
- 16:10:11 [seanb]
- ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
- 16:10:19 [seanb]
- -- continued
- 16:10:39 [Zakim]
- +Guus_Schreiber
- 16:10:58 [Zakim]
- -Guus_Schreiber
- 16:11:16 [seanb]
- Bern: Who's planning to attend?
- 16:11:33 [benadida]
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- 16:11:50 [benadida]
- I'm on the phone with Ralph, but I have to leave shortly because of a conflicting meeting
- 16:11:53 [seanb]
- ralph: yes
- 16:11:56 [seanb]
- alistair: yes
- 16:11:59 [seanb]
- ben: yes
- 16:12:03 [seanb]
- bernard: yes
- 16:12:05 [seanb]
- diego: yes
- 16:12:10 [seanb]
- daniel: no
- 16:12:14 [seanb]
- jon: yes
- 16:12:22 [seanb]
- michael: no
- 16:12:25 [seanb]
- seanb: no
- 16:12:30 [seanb]
- guus: yes
- 16:12:43 [seanb]
- tom: no
- 16:12:47 [aliman]
- danbri will you be at f2f in Jan?
- 16:13:05 [seanb]
- danbri: unlikely
- 16:13:40 [seanb]
- TomB: rough home page for wiki.
- 16:14:41 [seanb]
- ACTION: guus and ralph to look at structure of SWD home page and wiki home page to make sure access is easy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action07]
- 16:14:43 [seanb]
- --done
- 16:15:20 [seanb]
- ralph: talked with Sandro. Less optimistic that tools for Rules WG will
- 16:15:36 [seanb]
- ...be easily adopted unless we follow the same patterns of use. Not well documented.
- 16:16:04 [seanb]
- ACTION: Ralph to liaise with Sandro re Documentation tools [recorded [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action01]
- 16:16:06 [seanb]
- --done
- 16:16:20 [seanb]
- Topic: SKOS Requirements
- 16:16:25 [seanb]
- ACTION: Alistair to prepare issues list for January meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action06]
- 16:16:28 [seanb]
- --continues
- 16:16:45 [seanb]
- ACTION: sean to submit SKOS and rules issue using agreed issue format, directly into issues wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action04]
- 16:16:49 [seanb]
- --continues
- 16:16:59 [seanb]
- seanb: is there a page?
- 16:17:14 [seanb]
- jon: probably not yet. WIll put one in there.
- 16:18:20 [seanb]
- seanb: format from OWL, but the page is missing.
- 16:18:38 [seanb]
- ACTION: Jon to create an issues page on the wiki
- 16:18:56 [seanb]
- TomB: Comments on use case collection?
- 16:19:05 [seanb]
- Jon: Received a few use cases.
- 16:19:12 [seanb]
- ...four maybe?
- 16:19:25 [seanb]
- Daniel: From whom? Has enst to a few people.
- 16:19:33 [seanb]
- Jon: Everything recceived has been copied to the list
- 16:19:41 [seanb]
- Daniel: Posting what you receive?
- 16:19:45 [seanb]
- Jon: After the meeting
- 16:19:57 [seanb]
- ...page for each one with a link to a siummary page on the wiki,
- 16:20:10 [seanb]
- Daniel: What's the deadline? COntacted users,
- 16:20:31 [seanb]
- ...if they don't reply will do it for them. Problems of gettting people to fill out questionnaires
- 16:21:04 [seanb]
- ...if Jan 14th comes, without use cases, what happens? DO we fill them out ourselves
- 16:21:12 [seanb]
- Alistair: ok for me.
- 16:21:29 [seanb]
- ACTION: Elisa to keep us posted as SKOS/iso 11179 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action07]
- 16:21:31 [seanb]
- --continues
- 16:21:57 [seanb]
- email from Elisa regarding status of this
- 16:22:09 [seanb]
- Topic: 3. OTHER DELIVERABLES
- 16:22:17 [RalphS]
- zakim, ralph no longer has ben
- 16:22:18 [Zakim]
- ben was not listed in Ralph, RalphS
- 16:22:19 [Zakim]
- -ben; got it
- 16:22:24 [seanb]
- TomB: comment on other telecon?
- 16:22:24 [RalphS]
- zakim, ralph no longer has ben_adida
- 16:22:24 [Zakim]
- -Ben_Adida; got it
- 16:22:51 [seanb]
- Michael: discussion about use cases. Discussed which use cases might be
- 16:23:06 [seanb]
- ...useful or extended. E.g. example from Mark with chemical science or multilingual
- 16:23:41 [seanb]
- ...looks like we're moving along. Next time deeper look at use cases. Please feel free
- 16:23:47 [seanb]
- ...to add use cases for RDFa
- 16:24:06 [seanb]
- ACTION: guus to review RDFa documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action08]
- 16:24:10 [seanb]
- --continues
- 16:24:30 [seanb]
- ACTION: guus/tomb to put item on f2f agenda to make publication decision for RDFa documents (use cases and primer) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action09]
- 16:24:38 [seanb]
- --continues
- 16:24:56 [seanb]
- TomB: Recipes deliverable. Any comments?
- 16:25:04 [aliman]
- q+ to say about testing recipes
- 16:25:19 [seanb]
- Jon: Set up a preliminary issues page including those forwarded from Best
- 16:25:33 [danbri]
- q+ to note I semi-used it for FOAF ns, .... would be happy to take an action to send feedback
- 16:25:42 [seanb]
- ...Practices. Diego pointed out some issues in recent email.
- 16:25:48 [seanb]
- ...also unit tests (very useful)
- 16:26:08 [seanb]
- Alistair: excited when Diego said he'd written unit tests. Exactly what's needed here.
- 16:26:23 [seanb]
- ...would be great to plan to accompany document with online validation service.
- 16:26:24 [RalphS]
- Regrets: Antoine, Elisa
- 16:26:46 [seanb]
- ...asking if diego will make code available.
- 16:26:59 [seanb]
- ??: What's the W3C poliocy about hosting something like that?
- 16:27:12 [seanb]
- Ralph: No clear policy. Different precedents for different tests.
- 16:27:58 [seanb]
- DanBri: Used a version of the configuration from the document, but
- 16:28:07 [seanb]
- ..had to change it slightly.
- 16:28:10 [aliman]
- danbri said: recently migrated foaf spec to new server, used a variation of one of recipes in document (but slightly adapted)
- 16:28:24 [aliman]
- s/foaf spec/foaf vocab/
- 16:28:25 [seanb]
- ACTION: DanBri to send a report on the configuration he used to the list
- 16:28:45 [seanb]
- TomB; Principles for managing. No lead editor.
- 16:29:05 [seanb]
- ...call to SW list. See if anyone comes along who might be
- 16:29:30 [seanb]
- ...willing to pick it up.
- 16:29:36 [seanb]
- Topic: AOB
- 16:29:44 [seanb]
- no items.
- 16:29:53 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Hausenblas
- 16:29:55 [Zakim]
- -Daniel
- 16:29:55 [seanb]
- meeting adjourned
- 16:29:57 [Zakim]
- -aliman
- 16:29:58 [Zakim]
- -Bern
- 16:30:01 [Zakim]
- -Ralph
- 16:30:02 [Zakim]
- -JonP
- 16:30:03 [Zakim]
- -DanBri
- 16:30:06 [Zakim]
- -berrueta
- 16:30:22 [seanb]
- rssagent, please draft minutes
- 16:30:24 [TomB]
- RalphS, you are no longer on zakim?
- 16:31:03 [RalphS]
- I can dial back in
- 16:31:12 [dlrubin]
- dlrubin has left #swd
- 16:31:23 [Zakim]
- +Ralph
- 16:31:26 [seanb]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
- 16:31:26 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html seanb
- 16:31:52 [RalphS]
- zakim, list attendees
- 16:31:52 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been Tom_Baker, Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Ben_Adida, JonP, Sean, berrueta, Bern, Daniel, aliman, DanBri, Guus_Schreiber
- 16:32:08 [seanb]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
- 16:32:08 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html seanb
- 16:32:31 [RalphS]
- Meeting: SWD WG
- 16:32:38 [RalphS]
- Chair: Tom
- 16:32:55 [seanb]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
- 16:32:55 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html seanb
- 16:34:53 [Zakim]
- -Sean
- 16:40:13 [Zakim]
- -Ralph
- 16:40:19 [Zakim]
- -Tom_Baker
- 16:40:21 [Zakim]
- SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
- 16:40:23 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Tom_Baker, Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Ben_Adida, JonP, Sean, berrueta, Bern, Daniel, aliman, DanBri, Guus_Schreiber
- 16:48:07 [danbri]
- danbri has joined #swd
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- guus has joined #swd
- 16:54:25 [guus]
- [sorry, i as stuck in a train]
- 17:13:20 [seanb]
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- 18:25:47 [RalphS]
- zakim, bye
- 18:25:47 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #swd
- 18:25:49 [RalphS]
- rrsagent, bye
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-actions.rdf :
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [1]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-10-11
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [2]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-10-11-1
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: guus and ralph to look at structure of SWD home page and wiki home page to make sure access is easy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action07] [3]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-14-41
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ralph to liaise with Sandro re Documentation tools [recorded [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action01] [4]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-16-04
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Alistair to prepare issues list for January meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action06] [5]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-16-25
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: sean to submit SKOS and rules issue using agreed issue format, directly into issues wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action04] [6]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-16-45
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Jon to create an issues page on the wiki [7]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-18-38
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Elisa to keep us posted as SKOS/iso 11179 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action07] [8]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-21-29
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: guus to review RDFa documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action08] [9]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-24-06
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: guus/tomb to put item on f2f agenda to make publication decision for RDFa documents (use cases and primer) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action09] [10]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-24-30
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: DanBri to send a report on the configuration he used to the list [11]
- 18:25:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-irc#T16-28-25