IRC log of emotion on 2006-12-11

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12:52:36 [Marc]
zakim, this will be INC_EMOXG
12:52:36 [Zakim]
ok, Marc; I see INC_EMOXG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
12:53:03 [Marc]
zakim, read agenda from http://whatfettle.com/2006/07/RDFAgenda/http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2006Dec/0004.html
12:53:03 [Zakim]
working on it, Marc
12:53:05 [Zakim]
agenda+ Minutes of previous meeting
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agendum 1 added
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agenda+ Discussion of requirements
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agendum 2 added
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agenda+ Date of next meeting
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agendum 3 added
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agenda+ Any other business
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agendum 4 added
12:53:16 [Zakim]
done reading agenda, Marc
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INC_EMOXG()8:00AM has now started
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+ +049381402aaaa
12:56:35 [Ian]
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12:56:53 [Ian]
hi everyone
12:56:58 [Zakim]
+ +04121697aabb
12:57:07 [Alejandra]
hello
12:57:19 [cgi-irc]
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12:58:39 [cgi-irc]
hi marc
12:58:49 [cgi-irc]
what about the phone conference
12:58:56 [Alejandra]
there is only Christian and me on the phone?
12:58:57 [cgi-irc]
it told me i was the first?
12:59:10 [Zakim]
+ +681302aacc
12:59:28 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
12:59:41 [Marc]
zakim, I am aacc
12:59:41 [Zakim]
+Marc; got it
13:00:10 [cpeter]
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13:00:13 [Felix]
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13:00:31 [cpeter]
this is christna
13:01:10 [Zakim]
+ +49.303.497.aadd
13:01:24 [cpeter]
zakim i am aaaa
13:01:33 [Alejandra]
+ +04121697aabb
13:01:42 [Zakim]
+ +43.153.24aaee
13:01:46 [Felix]
zakim, i am aadd
13:01:46 [Zakim]
+Felix; got it
13:01:46 [cpeter]
zakim, i am aaaa
13:01:48 [Zakim]
+cpeter; got it
13:02:17 [Alejandra]
alejandra, aabb
13:02:32 [Hannes]
zakim, I am aaee
13:02:32 [Zakim]
+Hannes; got it
13:03:17 [Alejandra]
alejandra, I am aabb
13:03:42 [Alejandra]
zakim, I am aabb
13:03:42 [Zakim]
+Alejandra; got it
13:05:57 [Marc]
Hi Ian, could you join on the phone please?
13:06:03 [Ian]
trying
13:06:13 [Ian]
as usual i cant get in
13:06:50 [Marc]
that`s bad... :-(
13:07:57 [Ian]
:(
13:08:31 [Marc]
have you tried all three: Phone: +1-617-761-6200, +33.4.89.06.34.99 or +44.117.370.6152
13:08:40 [Felix]
zakim, mute me
13:08:40 [Zakim]
Felix should now be muted
13:09:09 [Hannes]
zakim. mute me
13:09:30 [Hannes]
zakim, mute me
13:09:30 [Zakim]
Hannes should now be muted
13:09:31 [Zakim]
+ +81.45.911.aaff
13:10:01 [Ian]
apologies
13:10:13 [Marc]
zakim, next item
13:10:13 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Minutes of previous meeting" taken up
13:10:37 [Ian]
zakim, mute me
13:10:37 [Zakim]
sorry, Ian, I do not see a party named 'Ian'
13:11:25 [Marc]
type 61# to mute, 60# to unmute
13:11:32 [Ian]
zakim, i am aaff
13:11:32 [Zakim]
+Ian; got it
13:11:39 [Ian]
zakim, mute me
13:11:39 [Zakim]
Ian should now be muted
13:11:44 [Marc]
zakim, next item
13:11:44 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Discussion of requirements" taken up
13:11:49 [Alejandra]
Chair: Marc
13:12:47 [Ian]
zakim, unmute me
13:12:47 [Zakim]
Ian should no longer be muted
13:12:49 [Alejandra]
Discussion: where the language should start and end.
13:13:54 [Alejandra]
Crhistian explains his main point in the disucssion in UC1
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Ian explanins discussion in UC3
13:15:26 [Alejandra]
Scribe: Alejnadra
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13:16:44 [Hannes]
yes
13:16:47 [Ian]
yes
13:16:54 [cpeter]
yes
13:17:18 [Alejandra]
Marc says that the core issue today should be the interface we want with the emotion annotation language
13:17:22 [Hannes]
zakim, unmute me
13:17:22 [Zakim]
Hannes should no longer be muted
13:17:24 [cpeter]
yes
13:17:34 [cgi-irc]
yes
13:17:59 [Jianhua]
yes
13:18:19 [Alejandra]
Everybody agrees that we need a mecanism to interact with the emotion language
13:19:15 [Alejandra]
Marc: one sugestion is to have input/output
13:21:28 [Zakim]
+ +4870aagg
13:21:56 [Myriam]
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13:24:17 [Alejandra]
in UC1 there is some trigger object that can be the input of the emotion
13:25:28 [Ian]
mute me
13:25:35 [Ian]
zakim, mute me
13:25:35 [Zakim]
Ian should now be muted
13:26:04 [Ian]
can we all mute please?
13:26:57 [Ian]
zakim, unmute me
13:26:57 [Zakim]
Ian should no longer be muted
13:29:29 [Ian]
zakim, mute me
13:29:29 [Zakim]
Ian should now be muted
13:30:06 [Ian]
zakim, unmute me
13:30:06 [Zakim]
Ian should no longer be muted
13:31:24 [Alejandra]
Hannes: suggests that it is not relevant how to name input and output, but its usability
13:31:49 [Ian]
zakim, mute me
13:31:49 [Zakim]
Ian should now be muted
13:32:08 [Ian]
possibly
13:32:52 [Ian]
yes i think so
13:33:23 [Ian]
sounds reasonable
13:33:30 [Alejandra]
Marc: we may to include the observable coorelates in the UCs
13:36:48 [Alejandra]
Hannes: recalled to define what are the "main conection points"
13:37:08 [Ian]
zakim, unmute me
13:37:08 [Zakim]
Ian should no longer be muted
13:37:16 [Hannes]
"Relations to the rest of the world" is a nice term!
13:38:09 [Felix]
yes, I think this is a good idea
13:38:09 [Hannes]
I agree
13:38:09 [Ian]
agreed
13:38:19 [cpeter]
Christian agrees
13:38:23 [Jianhua]
agree
13:38:37 [Myriam]
yes
13:38:53 [Alejandra]
Everybody: agree
13:40:32 [Alejandra]
Marc: we need to define how relation of the emotional annotation in the world can be represented
13:40:40 [Ian]
great, nice idea
13:43:00 [Alejandra]
Hannes: propose to compare information of all UC
13:43:39 [Ian]
zakim, mute me
13:43:39 [Zakim]
Ian should now be muted
13:44:27 [Alejandra]
Hannes: volunteer to bring together the UC documents
13:44:38 [Jianhua]
great
13:44:46 [Ian]
thanks!
13:44:49 [Jianhua]
thanks hannes
13:45:05 [Ian]
yes
13:45:05 [Jianhua]
yes
13:45:19 [Alejandra]
ACTION: Hannes will make a compilation of the three UC documents in wiki, so people can modify it.
13:46:40 [Alejandra]
Marc: this is also a conceptual unification, metadata
13:46:55 [Alejandra]
Marc:
13:47:24 [Ian]
zakim, unmute me
13:47:24 [Zakim]
Ian should no longer be muted
13:48:53 [Jianhua]
yes
13:48:57 [Alejandra]
Marc: new discussion on other sugestions of generic and dominne specific definitions
13:49:00 [Hannes]
agree
13:51:23 [Alejandra]
Marc: explain that something that we may want to have form UC in the language. What will be hard coded? what concepts will be open (for domain specific)?
13:52:56 [Alejandra]
Marc: Big chalenge of Hannes is to find what concepts are related, generic, domain specific...
13:53:28 [Ian]
zakim, mute me
13:53:28 [Zakim]
Ian should now be muted
13:55:28 [Alejandra]
Marc: future discussion on what is generic, dimain specific.
13:56:11 [Marc]
zakim, next item
13:56:11 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Date of next meeting" taken up
13:56:14 [Hannes]
move on
13:56:18 [Alejandra]
3. Date of next meeting
13:56:23 [Hannes]
ok
13:56:24 [Alejandra]
15 january?
13:56:27 [Ian]
i am ok
13:56:34 [Felix]
no problem
13:56:36 [Alejandra]
OK
13:56:37 [Myriam]
ok
13:57:09 [Hannes]
zakim, mute me
13:57:09 [Zakim]
Hannes should now be muted
13:57:16 [Alejandra]
next meeting 15 january
13:57:20 [Ian]
ok
13:58:14 [Alejandra]
Marc: we let open the time for US partners
13:58:28 [Marc]
zakim, next item
13:58:28 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "Any other business" taken up
13:58:40 [Hannes]
thank you marc!
13:58:45 [Jianhua]
thank you marc
13:58:46 [Ian]
thank you marc
13:58:50 [Ian]
bye
13:58:52 [Felix]
happy new year!
13:58:54 [Jianhua]
have a nice holiday to all
13:58:57 [Hannes]
see you
13:59:01 [Alejandra]
Present: Ian Christian, Marc, Hannes, Jianhua, Peter, Alejandra, Felix, Miriam
13:59:03 [Zakim]
-[IPcaller]
13:59:09 [Hannes]
zakim , unmute me
13:59:10 [Zakim]
-Felix
13:59:13 [Myriam]
thank and merry christmas
13:59:13 [Zakim]
-Ian
13:59:18 [Jianhua]
bye
13:59:24 [Jianhua]
and have a nice christmas
13:59:43 [Myriam]
bye
13:59:56 [Hannes]
exit
14:00:03 [Zakim]
-Hannes
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leave #emotion
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-cpeter
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- +4870aagg
14:03:03 [Alejandra]
Meeting: EMOXG meeting 11 Dec
14:03:56 [Marc]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2006Oct/0026.html
14:04:03 [Alejandra]
ScribeNick: Alejandra
14:04:34 [Marc]
Regrets: Jean-Claude Martin, Stacy Marsella
14:04:53 [Alejandra]
rrsagent, make logs public
14:05:01 [Alejandra]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-emotion-minutes.html Alejandra
14:07:48 [Zakim]
-Marc
14:07:51 [Zakim]
-Alejandra
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INC_EMOXG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +049381402aaaa, +04121697aabb, +681302aacc, [IPcaller], Marc, +49.303.497.aadd, +43.153.24aaee, Felix, cpeter, Hannes, Alejandra, +81.45.911.aaff, Ian, +4870aagg
14:10:47 [Marc]
rrsagent, bye
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-emotion-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Hannes will make a compilation of the three UC documents in wiki, so people can modify it. [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-emotion-irc#T13-45-19