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15:28:41 <TonyR> rrsagent, make logs public
15:28:46 <TonyR> ACTION: John Kaputin to create a test case with "required=false" 
15:41:29 <Jonathan> ACTION: Jonathan to allow different extensions per implementation.
15:49:22 <Jonathan> ACTION: Jonathan Echo-2G into bad bucket.
15:49:54 <Zakim> -David_Illsley
15:49:56 <Zakim> -Canon
15:50:04 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 10 minutes; all ports must be freed
15:50:21 <Zakim> -Arthur_Ryman
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15:50:29 <Zakim> -TonyR
15:50:30 <Zakim> WS_DescWG(WSDL)10:00AM has ended
15:50:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Arthur_Ryman, Jonathan_Marsh, TonyR, David_Illsley, Canon
15:52:00 <TonyR> zakim, this will be WSDWG
15:52:00 <Zakim> ok, TonyR; I see WS_DescWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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15:59:00 <TonyR> zakim, ??p15 is me
15:59:01 <Zakim> +TonyR; got it
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16:02:55 <Jonathan> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:02:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see TonyR, pauld, Tom_Jordahl, ??P38, Arthur_Ryman, Jonathan_Marsh
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16:03:19 <Zakim> +Allen; got it
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16:07:05 <Jonathan> Zakim, +[IPcaller] is charlton
16:07:05 <Zakim> sorry, Jonathan, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
16:07:15 <Jonathan> Zakim, [IPcaller] is charlton
16:07:15 <Zakim> +charlton; got it
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16:07:40 <charlton> zakim, who is on the call?
16:07:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see TonyR, pauld, Tom_Jordahl, Allen, Arthur_Ryman, Jonathan_Marsh, Roberto, JacekK, Asir_Vedamuthu, charlton, Gilbert_Pilz
16:10:49 <Zakim> + +329987aaaa
16:13:06 <Zakim> +m2
16:13:19 <Allen> SCRIBE: Allen
16:14:03 <Allen> TOPIC: previous minutes
16:14:31 <Allen> Minutes from Oct 26 approved
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16:18:54 <asir> Dashboard looks awesome!
16:20:15 <Allen> TOPIC: Interop event
16:20:46 <Allen> Jonathan reports on progress at interop event
16:24:29 <Allen> ACTION: Jonathan will propose a plan for publishing component model interchange format as a note.
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16:25:01 <Allen> Arthur: note can happen after we finish the spec
16:25:14 <Allen> TOPIC: Republication schedule
16:25:33 <pauld> RRSAgent, where am i?
16:25:33 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/11/30-ws-desc-irc#T16-25-33
16:25:50 <Allen> Jonathan: Do we want to publish as soon as possible?
16:26:51 <Allen> Arthur: In part 1 the only changes should be tweaks to the assertions so it should be ready.
16:27:24 <Allen> Jonathan: Want to let people know of changes as soon as possible: removal of f&p, http binding at risk.
16:27:49 <Allen> Jacek: Do you think we can be done by early January?
16:28:09 <Allen> Jonathan: We have many issues but they are simple so yes.
16:28:19 <Allen> Jacek: Do we have heartbeat issues?
16:28:38 <Allen> Jonathan: We may but we have violated them already if we do.
16:28:49 <Allen> Jacek: I think we can wait
16:29:11 <asir> good one :-)
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16:29:39 <Allen> Jonathan: I don't hear objections so we will wait till January
16:30:39 <Allen> TOPIC: LC Reviews
16:31:45 <Allen> Jonathan: Do we have any objection to Policy WG publishing WSDL 1.1 Component Designators?
16:32:34 <Allen> Arthur: We should ask Phillipe since he was against us doing anything with 1.1.
16:32:45 <Zakim> +Amelia_Lewis
16:33:41 <Allen> Arthur: We can ask David O to contribute spec here if we think that is a better place for it.
16:34:00 <Allen> Jonathan: I think it belongs here but don't want it to get in the way of our other deliverables.
16:34:39 <Zakim> -charlton
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16:35:45 <Allen> Jonathan: Can take it to coordination group and say we can do it if our charter is extended.
16:36:09 <Jonathan> ACTION: Jonathan to take the proposal to the CG that we can take the work, as long as our charter is extended and as long as we can get our primary deliverables done first.
16:36:55 <Allen> Paul: Invite members to look at databinding document
16:37:07 <Zakim> +Charlton_Barreto
16:37:29 <Allen> Paul: Audience - within W3C, schema WG, outside, WS-I Basic Profile WG
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16:38:46 <Allen> Paul: need contributions of test cases, WG doesn't need to review, individuals can send comments.
16:39:07 <Allen> Jonathan: Policy is in LC, we have been asked to review.
16:39:51 <Allen> Arthur: I reviewed it, main comment, need to provide definition of equivalence, comment accepted.
16:40:54 <Allen> Charlton: I volunteer to look at it.
16:40:55 <Jonathan> ACTION: Charlton to review WS-Policy LC
16:41:17 <TonyR> s/main comment/made comment/
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16:42:14 <Allen> TOPIC: MTOM Description
16:42:47 <pauld> proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006Nov/0029.html
16:43:00 <Allen> Jonathan: Paul made a proposal for new attribute.
16:44:26 <Allen> Youenn: Haven't had a chance to look at this yet
16:44:54 <Allen> Arthur: Opposed to adding as part of the spec, open to adding as additional document
16:45:27 <Allen> Asir: Why is WG focussing on this?
16:45:59 <Allen> Jonathan: Cannon has requirement for this, long discussion of whether this should be done by this WG or XMLP.
16:48:54 <Allen> Asir: Don't need additional attribute.  Can already do it with Policy.
16:49:12 <Allen> Jonathan: We'll continue on this next week.
16:49:38 <Allen> TOPIC: CR82 - Header blocks in wrpc:signature
16:50:08 <Allen> Jonathan: Jacek responded.  If we don't hear back we can consider it done.
16:50:31 <Allen> TOPIC: CR84
16:50:49 <Allen> Jonathan: Resolved to fix as editorial
16:51:13 <Allen> TOPIC: CR85 F&P Primer work
16:51:41 <Allen> Jonathan: Resolved to close and track as editorial
16:52:58 <Allen> Jacek: on issue 82 there was a response but it didn't make it to the list.
16:53:12 <Allen> TOPIC: CR86
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16:56:36 <Allen> Jonathan: Need to move sentence to include all http properties, not just cookies.  That's the way its being implemented now.
16:57:40 <Allen> Arthur: also add that properties MUST NOT be used when protocol is not HTTP.
16:58:22 <Allen> Jonathan: Resolved with moving sentence and adding assertion.
16:58:44 <Allen> TOPC: CR87 - Turning off http transfer coding
17:00:16 <Allen> Jonathan: Does it make sense to turn off transfer coding to original state?  Is empty string an ok syntax for that?
17:00:29 <Allen> Arthur: What does this do to the component model?
17:00:52 <Allen> Jonathan: Puts in a transfer coding without a value.
17:01:48 <Allen> Jonathan: Can empty string be the same as on transfer coding at all?
17:02:49 <Allen> Arther: Another way to do this is not provide a default.
17:03:12 <Allen> Jonathan: Nice to have explicit way to do anything that can be done implicitly
17:04:03 <Jonathan> RESOLUTION: Add text stating that {http transfer coding} = "" means no assertion as to the transfer coding.
17:05:00 <Jonathan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006Nov/0003.html
17:05:17 <Allen> TOPIC: CR88 & CR90
17:06:46 <Allen> RESOLUION: use Amy's proposal in above link to resolve ambiguity
17:07:05 <Allen> TOPIC: CR89
17:12:26 <Allen> ACTION: Arthur will fix this editorially
17:12:47 <Allen> RESOLUION: close with fix to be provided by Arthur
17:13:16 <Allen> TOPIC: CR91 - WSDL 2.0 fault binding
17:14:45 <Allen> ACTION: Editors will add to soap binding to implement spirit of issue.
17:14:59 <Allen> RESOLVED: fix with editorial change
17:15:22 <Allen> TOPIC: CR92
17:18:19 <Allen> ACTION: Jonathan will check to see if WS-I specifies single detail item.
17:18:20 <Jonathan> ACTION: Jonathan to look at whether WS-I BP profiles Detail children (to only one)
17:18:43 <Allen> TOPIC: CR93
17:24:39 <Allen> Arthur: we require global element definitions have a namespace
17:25:17 <Allen> Arthur: We have element declarations and type definitons and we require that they have value uri as namespace.
17:25:44 <Allen> Jonathan: We don't allow this today.  Is it worth changing?
17:26:06 <Allen> Arthur: This is inline with other things we don't support.
17:26:56 <Allen> Jonathan: If we aren't going to change this should we have a section that talks about what we don't support?
17:28:28 <Zakim> -Charlton_Barreto
17:29:07 <Jonathan> BP lists this as an extensibility point: Fault details - the contents of a Fault's detail element are not prescribed by SOAP 1.1. 
17:29:41 <Allen> Jacek:  Spec only says that name is a QName, it says nothing about valid uri.
17:30:29 <Allen> Arthur: We should make this more explicit
17:31:26 <Allen> ACTION: Jonathan will add a paragraph to talk about what parts of SOAP we don't support.
17:33:01 <monica> +1
17:33:13 <Zakim> -pauld
17:34:15 <Zakim> -m2
17:34:17 <Allen> Jonathan: Next week we start 1/2 hour early and go for 2 hours.
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17:34:29 <Allen> Adjourn
17:34:30 <Zakim> -Amelia_Lewis
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17:34:33 <Zakim> -TonyR
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17:34:41 <Zakim> -Allen
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17:35:16 <Zakim> Attendees were TonyR, pauld, Tom_Jordahl, Jonathan_Marsh, Arthur_Ryman, Allen, Roberto, JacekK, Asir_Vedamuthu, Gilbert_Pilz, charlton, +329987aaaa, m2, Amelia_Lewis,
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17:36:32 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:36:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/30-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
17:36:46 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, set log world
17:36:49 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:36:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/30-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
17:45:17 <Jonathan> Chair: Jonathan
17:45:22 <Jonathan> Meeting: WS Description WG telcon
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17:46:01 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:46:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/30-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
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