IRC log of swd on 2006-11-28

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15:55:01 [TomB]
rrsagent, bookmark
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See http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T15-55-01
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Meeting: SWD WG
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Chair: Tom
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2006Nov/0069.html
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Regrets: Ralph, Daniel, Alistair
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rrsagent, please make record public
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zakim, wo's here?
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I don't understand your question, Guus.
15:59:53 [Guus]
zakim , who is here?
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zakim, list conferences
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I see SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM active
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also scheduled at this time are SW_RIF()11:00AM, I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM, SW_(messaging)11:00AM, SW_DAWG()9:30AM, XML_ET-TF()11:00AM
16:02:35 [TomB]
http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UsingZakim
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http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
16:03:57 [Bern]
zakim, what conference is this?
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this is SW_SWD()11:00AM conference code 79394
16:04:08 [berrueta]
zakim, CarlosI is me
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+berrueta; got it
16:04:24 [TomB]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/Scribing.html
16:04:34 [jphipps]
zakim, aacc is me
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+jphipps; got it
16:04:34 [Bern]
zakim, aabb is me
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+Bern; got it
16:05:31 [TomB]
zakim, [Vrije Uni] is Guus
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I don't understand '[Vrije Uni] is Guus', TomB
16:05:37 [TomB]
zakim, who is talking?
16:05:43 [Guus]
zakim, who's talking?
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TomB, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Antoine (14%), [VrijeUni] (69%)
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zakim, Vrije is Guus
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sorry, TomB, I do not recognize a party named 'Vrije'
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Guus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Antoine (20%), [VrijeUni] (45%)
16:06:18 [TomB]
zakim, ??P1 is TomB
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+TomB; got it
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-[VrijeUni]
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zakim, who is on the call?
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On the phone I see TomB, Antoine, Bern, berrueta, jphipps
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+[VrijeUni]
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Scribenick: Antoine
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Topic: Admin
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Tom proposed to accept minutes
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... error in last week (Bernard was not attending)
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RESOLVED to accept last week's meeting noting the roor that Bernard did not attempt
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... so could not second motion to approve minutes
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s/attempt/attend/
16:12:49 [Antoine]
Wiki: new documents, especially "delivrables"
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... question raised about the use of wiki
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... especially concerning edit rights
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... Answer: there is an history of modifications
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... you can even cite different versions
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... important modifications should be notified to editors and WG list
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Tom: propose to continue action for Ralph to lias to wiki documentation
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ACTION: Ralph to liaise with Sandro re Documentation tools [recorded
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in [13]w3c:/2006/11/21-swd-minutes.html#action02]
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-- continued
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Topic: SKOS Requirements
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scribenick: Berrueta
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Antoine: some discussion on Alistair's proposal
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... updated version of Alistair's proposal already posted in the wiki
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... we should have a last round to have more opinions
16:18:56 [jphipps]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/UCFormat
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... main issue remaing is they way we should mention mapping
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... also about the complexity of the format
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... many people thinks the length is ok
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... editors telecon next monday, validate definitive version of the format
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... send objections before monday
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TomB: propose posting a list of remaining issues
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Antoine: agreed
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RESOLVED: ACTION: all to respond to Alistair's proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/14-swd-minutes.html#action05]
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-- continues
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DONE: ACTION: all to respond to Alistair's proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/14-swd-minutes.html#action05]
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+Scott_McGlashan
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ACTION: Alistair work with the UCR editors to draft questions to invite the esw-thes mailing list to contribute to the use cases and requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/07-swd-minutes.html#action10]
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-- DONE
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zakim, Scott_McGlashan is Seanb
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+Seanb; got it
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ACTION: Jon, Daniel, Antoine figure out their individual roles as SKOS Requirements editors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/07-swd-minutes.html#action07]
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-- continued
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-- continues
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ACTION: Antoine and other editors to write up format. Email to list
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describing format with an example. [recorded in
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[18]w3c:/2006/11/21-swd-minutes.html#action08]
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-- continues
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ACTION: Alistair to prepare issues list for January meeting
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[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/07-swd-irc#T16-25-11]
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-- continues
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ACTION Antoine to post summary of remaining issues ahead of Editors' telecon next Monday
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[PENDING] ACTION: Elisa to keep us posted as SKOS/iso 11179
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compatibility issue evolves [recorded in
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[36]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/31-swd-minutes.html#action07]
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-- continued
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Scribenick: Antoine
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Topic: Other Deliverables.
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Bernard: question on the ??? mailing list
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asks about the esw-thes mailing list
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Tom: comes from the SWAD project
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... postings about discussion on SKOS
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Bernard: think that it is confusing that discussion about SKOS
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... should happen on this list
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Guus: SWBP WG worked on SKOS with discussions on this list
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... discussion about SKOS should continue so
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Bernard: shall swd member suscribe
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Guus: not formally needed
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Tom: resuming to other delivrables: are there people around
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No for RDF in XHTML
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Tom: Recipes for publishing
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ACTION: Guus to send email to SW Interest Group re Recipes [recorded
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in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-swd-minutes.html#action09]
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-- continues
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Tom: is there a volunteer for editing?
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??? is volunteer
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Guus: nice to have two editors
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??? is Jon Phipps
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Diego volunteers to help Jon
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As a result of Guus' mail people on SW IG could volunteer
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Tom: get back to that next week
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Tom: Del 3, we need editors and participants
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ACTION: Tom to Consider call for participation for VM on model of
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Guus's re: Recipes [recorded in
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http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-swd-minutes.html#action10]
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-- continues
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Topic: AOB
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Action: Guus to send more details about the Face-to-Face meeting in January
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not many posting on it until now
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... will ping w3c people
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ACTION Guus: ping organizers about January meeting
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-Bern
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Tom: adjourned
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-Seanb
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-Guus
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-jphipps
16:38:19 [TomB]
zakim, please list attendees
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As of this point the attendees have been +31.70.314.aaaa, +44.120.682.aabb, +1.607.785.aacc, berrueta, Antoine, jphipps, Bern, TomB, Guus, Seanb
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-berrueta
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rrsagent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html TomB
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16:40:51 [TomB]
zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were +31.70.314.aaaa, +44.120.682.aabb, +1.607.785.aacc, berrueta, Antoine, jphipps, Bern, TomB, Guus, Seanb
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Ralph to liaise with Sandro re Documentation tools [recorded [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-15-51
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ACTION: Alistair work with the UCR editors to draft questions to invite the esw-thes mailing list to contribute to the use cases and requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/07-swd-minutes.html#action10] [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-23-31
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ACTION: Jon, Daniel, Antoine figure out their individual roles as SKOS Requirements editors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/07-swd-minutes.html#action07] [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-24-54
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ACTION: Antoine and other editors to write up format. Email to list [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-25-24
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ACTION: Alistair to prepare issues list for January meeting [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-26-10
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ACTION: Guus to send email to SW Interest Group re Recipes [recorded [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-31-57
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ACTION: Tom to Consider call for participation for VM on model of [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-35-42
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ACTION: Guus to send more details about the Face-to-Face meeting in January [8]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-36-23
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ACTION: Guus to ping organizers about January meeting [9]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-irc#T16-37-12