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14:51:51 <shadi> zakim, this will be ERT
14:51:51 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
14:51:56 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
14:52:00 <shadi> chair: Shadi
14:52:27 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Nov/0020.html
14:52:42 <shadi> agenda+ sequences in the HTTP vocabulary
14:52:55 <shadi> agenda+ additional validity level values
14:53:07 <shadi> agenda+ addressing security/privacy in EARL
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14:59:41 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
14:59:43 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:59:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:00:12 <Zakim> +??P5
15:00:30 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really David
15:00:30 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:00:41 <shadi> zakim, ? is really Johannes
15:00:41 <Zakim> +Johannes; got it
15:01:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:01:37 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Chris
15:01:37 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
15:01:38 <Zakim> +Daniela
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15:02:36 <shadi> regrets: CarlosV
15:03:00 <shadi> scribe: David
15:03:08 <shadi> scribenick: davidr
15:03:14 <Zakim> +berrueta
15:03:55 <shadi> zakim, berrueta is really CarlosI
15:03:55 <Zakim> +CarlosI; got it
15:04:10 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:04:10 <Zakim> agendum 1. "sequences in the HTTP vocabulary" taken up [from shadi]
15:05:07 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Oct/0017
15:05:45 <davidr> shadi: how to reconr sequences of headers that are sent and recoieved from the server
15:07:33 <davidr> johannesk: summarises his email - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Oct/0017
15:11:42 <davidr> shadi: the sequence of values is very important
15:13:23 <davidr> shadi: not sure the importance of sequence in which headers occur 
15:15:07 <davidr> s/headers/headers of different types
15:15:32 <shadi> action: saz add an editors note in the WD asking for feedback on potential conflict regarding sequence of *different* header types
15:18:27 <CarlosI> probably sequence is not relevant for our use case in both cases but...
15:18:50 <CarlosI> if we wont the HTTP in RDF vocabulary to be stand-alone...
15:19:09 <CarlosI> I think both sequences could be relevant for other use cases
15:20:57 <davidr> shadi: HTTP protocol makes no assumption on the order of headers
15:21:04 <Zakim> -Chris
15:22:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:22:11 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Chris
15:22:11 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
15:23:27 <JohannesK> "Header: Value1\nHeader: Value2" should result in "Header: Value1, Value2"
15:23:46 <davidr> proposed resolution: in earl, sequence of values should be flattened out into comma seperated string
15:26:04 <davidr> RESOLUTION:  in earl, sequence of values within the same request/response should be flattened out into comma seperated string
15:27:51 <davidr> shadi: the other scenario - sequence of multiple requests/responses between client and server
15:29:07 <CarlosI> e.g. content negotiation
15:29:24 <CarlosI> several request and response before getting any content
15:31:53 <davidr> johannesK: record every piece of content seperately in a webcontent class and combine them together
15:34:15 <CarlosI> but if you want to exactly reproduce the same conditions you need to record all the sequence
15:34:43 <davidr> johannesK: redirects could be captured in individual webcontent classes 
15:35:31 <davidr> johannesK: e.g. redirect = a->b->c, we could capture a,b & c as individual webcontent classes
15:35:56 <CarlosI> and what are the subjects?
15:39:04 <JohannesK> ACTION: jk to write down some thoughts about his proposal of recording 1. simple request/response pair, 2. content negotiation, 3. redirect
15:39:56 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 1
15:39:56 <Zakim> agendum 1, sequences in the HTTP vocabulary, closed
15:39:57 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:39:58 <Zakim> 2. additional validity level values [from shadi]
15:40:00 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:40:00 <Zakim> agendum 2. "additional validity level values" taken up [from shadi]
15:41:17 <davidr> shadi: summarizes discussion thus far
15:46:19 <davidr> davidr: proposes the introduction of a warning property within the result class
15:50:30 <CarlosI> f
15:50:52 <CarlosI> have always thought warnings are QA bad practices in general
15:51:01 <Daniela> sorry, have to leave a bit earlier today ...
15:51:04 <Zakim> -Daniela
15:51:06 <davidr> johannesK: chaals raised the point, what kind of warning it is?
15:51:06 <CarlosI> not sure if we should support themm in EARL
15:51:19 <CarlosI> they are a can of worms
15:51:38 <CarlosI> almost each warning is unique
15:54:18 <CarlosI> proposal:
15:54:35 <CarlosI> use always one of the current values: pass, fail, etc.
15:54:38 <CarlosI> then...
15:54:59 <CarlosI> we can add a new warning class you can use
15:55:13 <CarlosI> but not associated with any specific value
15:55:51 <CarlosI> yes
15:56:05 <CarlosI> you use alway one of the current values
15:56:40 <Zakim> -Chris
15:56:40 <CarlosI> and you can additionally provide a warning
15:56:41 <ChrisR> ChrisR has left #er
15:57:06 <CarlosI> imposible to star working on it until next tuesday
15:57:40 <CarlosI> ok
15:58:21 <CarlosI> ACTION: CarlosI to summarize his proposal about warnings on the mailing list
15:59:34 <Zakim> -Johannes
15:59:37 <CarlosI> bye
15:59:38 <Zakim> -David
15:59:42 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:59:46 <Zakim> -CarlosI
15:59:52 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:59:54 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, David, Johannes, Chris, Daniela, CarlosI
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16:01:37 <shadi> zakim, bye
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16:01:49 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
16:01:55 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:01:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-minutes.html shadi
16:01:57 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
16:02:01 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
16:02:01 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-actions.rdf :
16:02:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: saz add an editors note in the WD asking for feedback on potential conflict regarding sequence of *different* header types [1]
16:02:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-irc#T15-15-32
16:02:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jk to write down some thoughts about his proposal of recording 1. simple request/response pair, 2. content negotiation, 3. redirect [2]
16:02:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-irc#T15-39-04
16:02:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CarlosI to summarize his proposal about warnings on the mailing list [3]
16:02:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/22-er-irc#T15-58-21