14:41:52 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #sweo
14:41:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/10/25-sweo-irc
14:42:01 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
14:42:58 <LeeF> howdy, ivan
14:43:10 <ivan> Hi Lee
14:43:24 <ivan> I still owe you a visit, but I have not been to Boston since:-(
14:43:45 <LeeF> Well, we're still here, so whenever you do swing by, we'd be glad to have you visit =)
14:44:35 <ivan> I will be in Boston between ISWC and the SWEO meeting, but for a day only; I do not think I can do it
14:44:45 <ivan> but I plan to spend a week in Boston in January
14:44:50 <ivan> that would/could work!
14:45:02 <LeeF> fantastic
14:45:04 <ivan> B.t.w., I visited some of your colleagues in IBM Research Beijing last week
14:45:29 <ivan> they do great stuff (minerva, iodt...)
14:45:31 <LeeF> I'm hoping by then a lot of our work will be available open-source (actually, i'm hoping that it will be available a lot sooner than that, but there's still a few lawyer-hoops to jump through)
14:45:40 <LeeF> oh neat! yeah, those guys are definitely on top of the ball
14:47:56 <pasquale> pasquale has joined #sweo
14:48:22 <pasquale> Hi Ivan, hi all, from pasquale ;-)
14:50:53 <LeeF> hiya, pasquale
14:51:03 <ivan> bongiorno!
14:51:08 <pasquale> ciao!
14:51:26 <ivan> you should not expect too much from my Italian:-)
14:51:35 <ivan> I did some when I was around 10
14:51:43 <pasquale> so for my english
14:51:44 <ivan> however, that was, hm, 40 years ago:-(
14:52:30 <pasquale> ;-)
14:53:46 <charlesrudgard> charlesrudgard has joined #sweo
14:56:08 <charlesrudgard> charlesrudgard has joined #sweo
14:56:16 <ivan> Topic: SWEO IG telco
14:56:21 <ivan> Chair: Susie
14:56:48 <ivan> zakim, code?
14:56:48 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), ivan
14:57:27 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()11:00AM has now started
14:57:34 <Zakim> +??P1
14:57:46 <Zakim> -??P1
14:57:47 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()11:00AM has ended
14:57:48 <Zakim> Attendees were 
14:58:07 <ivan> zakim, this is sweo
14:58:07 <Zakim> ivan, I see SW_SWEO()11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be sweo".
14:58:17 <ivan> zakim, this will be sweo
14:58:17 <Zakim> ok, ivan; I see SW_SWEO()11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:58:22 <Susie> Susie has joined #sweo
14:58:26 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-617
14:58:26 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
14:58:27 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()11:00AM has now started
14:58:29 <Zakim> +Ivan
14:59:34 <Zakim> + +1.617.416.aaaa
14:59:37 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
14:59:47 <wing> wing has joined #sweo
14:59:48 <LeeF> Zakim, Lee_Feigenbaum is me
14:59:48 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
14:59:57 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is Susie
14:59:57 <Zakim> +Susie; got it
15:00:12 <Zakim> +??P7
15:00:18 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
15:00:31 <ivan> zakim, P7 is Charles
15:00:31 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'P7'
15:00:47 <ivan> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
15:00:48 <Zakim> +wing; got it
15:00:57 <Zakim> +??P10
15:01:11 <ivan> zakim, P10 is Pasquale
15:01:12 <LeeF> zakim, ??P7 is Charles
15:01:12 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'P10'
15:01:14 <Zakim> +Charles; got it
15:01:20 <LeeF> zakim, ??P10 is Pasquale
15:01:20 <Zakim> +Pasquale; got it
15:02:04 <ivan> Scribe: ivan
15:04:17 <ivan> Susie: welcome to everyone; this is an excellent time for w3c to start a sweo group
15:04:35 <ivan> ... we can really accelerate the adoption of sw
15:04:56 <ivan> ... an introduction should be done, who is what, what is the role, what is the work you are doing, etc?
15:05:08 <ivan> ... but it would be good to have such intro by email, too, for the records
15:05:33 <ivan> I start: susie stephens, oracle, my role is to enhance oracle's insfrastucture for life sciences
15:05:41 <ivan> ... i began to focus on sw
15:06:02 <Zakim> +Helen_Chen
15:06:11 <LeeF> ivan: I'm Ivan Herman, the w3c semantic web activity lead
15:06:20 <LeeF> ...also act as a staff contact for SWEO IG
15:06:45 <LeeF> ... before this position, I was the head of offices for the W3C and as part of that I travelled a lot and gave tutorials and presentations on the semantic web
15:07:25 <ivan> Lee: I work at IBM advanced tech group; our group's r&d involves using sw techs to entreprise problems
15:07:43 <Helen> Helen has joined #sweo
15:07:49 <ivan> ... our plan is to put lot of our work into open source, and sweo work is in line to raise awareness
15:08:01 <ivan> ... i am also member of w3c dawg group (sparql)
15:08:14 <ivan> charles: i am product and services director at garlic, UK
15:08:30 <ivan> ... we will launch a new product in the next few weeks which will use sw
15:08:51 <LeeF> s/garlic/garlik
15:08:52 <LeeF> (i think)
15:08:54 <ivan> ... garlic's product goal is to help people maintaining privacy online
15:08:56 <Zakim> +Steve_Harris
15:09:30 <ivan> ... we have built an rdf framework in the w3c format, we have the largest commercial rdf store today (we believe)
15:10:06 <ivan> Win: i work at the ibm tech group, close with Lee
15:10:28 <ivan> ... working on text search in sw data
15:11:13 <ivan> Pasquale: i am a web accessibility specialist, and also a sw researcher, I have created and maintain an italian portal on semweb
15:11:28 <ivan> ... it has italian translation of sw documents, also dublic core
15:11:47 <ivan> ... semantic web more accessible, and accessible web more semantics...
15:12:26 <ivan> helen: representative of agfa at the hcls group; we are interested in the health care domain, we work using sw engineering our work flow in health care
15:12:51 <ivan> steve: steve harris, formally in university of southampton, but now at garlik, developed a rdf store
15:13:28 <ivan> susie: it is good to have this introduction, but we should also do that on email for people who come later
15:13:40 <ivan> susie: upcoming information on the f2f meeting
15:14:15 <ivan> ... as far as sweo goes, the ig has the focus on the generation of colleterals and other materials, to enable people within the business to understand the sw
15:14:48 <ivan> ... we look at generation of higher level documents, focus on different industries, on specific areas (eg, entreprise search)
15:15:09 <ivan> ... sweo is an ig and not a wg, we have more flexibility in deciding what we achieve, and decided by the participants
15:15:27 <ivan> ... we can form it so that it meshes nicely with the participants' interest
15:15:40 <ivan> ... it is a bit starting late, but it is all right
15:16:42 <LeeF> ivan: magazines and other materials are currently full of wrong information about the semantic web
15:16:51 <LeeF> ... feelings are that the SW is way too complicated, complex, scientific
15:17:03 <LeeF> ... we should keep that in mind in our work
15:17:23 <LeeF> ... when we talk to various companies, they would like to see real business cases/applications -- not only demos
15:18:05 <LeeF> ... keep in mind what sort of things your companies' might allow you to publish about SW business cases
15:18:28 <ivan> susie: the f2f meeting itself:
15:18:43 <ivan> ... most of you are aware that the form and the agenda are on the web
15:18:53 <ivan> agenda: -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2006/F2FAgenda_Nov2006.html
15:19:23 <ivan> form-> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/38539/sweof2fburl/
15:19:40 <ivan> (susie going through the agenda items)
15:21:21 <Zakim> + +1.415.971.aabb
15:21:43 <ivan> zakim, aabb is Jeff
15:21:43 <Zakim> +Jeff; got it
15:22:26 <ivan> Jeff (intro): at oracle middleware; prior to oracle I was at cerebra (vice president), that had an OWL reasoning engine
15:22:44 <ivan> ... before that I was at ??? developing ontologies and systems
15:23:06 <ivan> ... i was at various outreach positinos for a number of years, am happy to to be here
15:23:07 <Zakim> + +1.925.842.aacc
15:23:23 <ivan> zakim, aacc is Frank
15:23:23 <Zakim> +Frank; got it
15:24:07 <ivan> Frank (intro): I am from Chevron, i am new to the company, am at the entreprise arch. group, and working on information architectures.
15:24:26 <ivan> ... before I was in safeway doing inf. archs. developing ontologies and taxonomies, 
15:24:43 <ivan> ... i am interested in working and developing proposal at chevron working in this area
15:25:11 <ivan> susie: (continuing the presentation of the agenda)
15:25:31 <Frank> Frank has joined #sweo
15:29:43 <ivan> Frank: on the second day, there is three task forces identified, is there any specific task force that we would have
15:30:11 <ivan> susie: we have not defined those in advance of the meeting, that would be dependent of the participants' interest
15:30:24 <ivan> ... and the task prioritization would also define those
15:30:49 <ivan> Lee: i want just check, sweo membership is growing
15:31:01 <ivan> susie: yes, correct, the simplest is for a member
15:31:06 <ivan> ... then it is simple and done
15:31:21 <ivan> ... if the person is not part of a w3c member, then we can try to recruit the company
15:31:34 <ivan> ... or invited expert, but at the moment we want to minimize the latter
15:31:50 <ivan> ... if we feel that we really have to reinforce an area, then we can do that
15:32:59 <ivan> susie: there are about 10 other organization that are in the process, like Agfa, to join
15:33:30 <ivan> susie: then we are done for today, we have the mailing list set up, I will send out my intro mail, please follow
15:33:37 <ivan> ... please use that, too
15:33:52 <ivan> -- adjourned
15:34:01 <Zakim> -Susie
15:34:02 <Zakim> -Helen_Chen
15:34:02 <Zakim> -wing
15:34:03 <Zakim> -Frank
15:34:03 <Zakim> -Jeff
15:34:05 <Zakim> -Steve_Harris
15:34:06 <Zakim> -LeeF
15:34:07 <Zakim> -Charles
15:34:11 <Zakim> -Ivan
15:34:12 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()11:00AM has ended
15:34:14 <Zakim> Attendees were Ivan, +1.617.416.aaaa, LeeF, Susie, wing, Charles, Pasquale, Helen_Chen, Steve_Harris, +1.415.971.aabb, Jeff, +1.925.842.aacc, Frank
15:34:31 <ivan> zakim, bye
15:34:31 <Zakim> Zakim has left #sweo
15:34:39 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:34:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/25-sweo-minutes.html ivan
15:34:45 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
15:34:45 <RRSAgent> I see no action items