15:04:41 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #rif
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15:04:43 <PaulaP> zakim, [LMU] is temporarily me
15:04:46 <ChrisW> zakim, this is rif
15:04:55 <agiurca> zakin, aaaa is me
15:04:58 <csma> q?
15:05:00 <Zakim> sorry, agiurca, I do not recognize a party named '2032'
15:05:06 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, mute me
15:05:08 <Zakim> +StellaMitchell; got it
15:05:12 <Hassan> q-
15:05:16 <csma> ack ??P35
15:05:21 <Zakim> igor was already muted, igor
15:05:26 <MalaMehrotra> MalaMehrotra has joined #rif
15:05:27 <MarkusK> MarkusK has joined #rif
15:05:33 <Zakim> +Axel_Polleres
15:05:35 <Zakim> sorry, agiurca, I do not see a party named 'agiurca'
15:05:43 <csma> ack ??P38
15:06:13 <Zakim> sorry, PaulaP, I do not recognize a party named '[LMU]'
15:06:15 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:06:19 <Zakim> ChrisW, this was already SW_RIF()11:00AM
15:06:21 <Zakim> ok, ChrisW; that matches SW_RIF()11:00AM
15:06:34 <Zakim> +Mala_Mehrotra
15:06:38 <Zakim> Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
15:06:49 <AlexKozlenkov> AlexKozlenkov has joined #rif
15:07:07 <GiorgosStoilos> GiorgosStoilos has joined #rif
15:07:24 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:07:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:07:52 <johnhall> zakim, ipcaller is me
15:07:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
15:08:06 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, IPCaller.a is me
15:08:34 <SaidTabet> SaidTabet has joined #RIF
15:08:38 <csma> zakim, ??P38 is me
15:08:50 <Zakim> +??P59
15:08:58 <pfps> zakim, who is on the phone
15:09:02 <Zakim> +johnhall; got it
15:09:04 <Zakim> +Sandro
15:09:06 <Zakim> +AlexKozlenkov; got it
15:09:07 <Franois> zakim ??P35 is me.
15:09:08 <Zakim> + +1.412.242.aadd
15:09:14 <johnhall> zakim, mute me
15:09:16 <Franois> zakim mute me.
15:09:17 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
15:09:20 <Zakim> +csma; got it
15:09:22 <csma> ack ??P38
15:09:23 <pfps> zakim, who is on th ephone?
15:09:31 <DaveReynolds> DaveReynolds has joined #rif
15:09:41 <SaidTabet> zakim, mute me
15:09:44 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', pfps
15:10:00 <Zakim> johnhall should now be muted
15:10:02 <Zakim> +??P67
15:10:09 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
15:10:12 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, ??P67 is me
15:10:13 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, pfps.
15:10:17 <Zakim> +[IVML]
15:10:21 <Zakim> sorry, SaidTabet, I do not see a party named 'SaidTabet'
15:10:23 <Zakim> +??P69
15:10:25 <Zakim> +Dave_Reynolds (was ??P69)
15:10:37 <Zakim> -??P67
15:10:39 <Zakim> I already had ??P67 as ??P67, AlexKozlenkov
15:10:40 <ChrisW> zakim, who is on the pohone?
15:10:47 <ChrisW> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:10:49 <SaidTabet> zakim, mute me
15:10:49 <GiorgosStoilos> zakim, [IVML] is me
15:10:51 <Zakim> +??P67
15:10:57 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, ChrisW.
15:10:58 <AxelPolleres> so, you are ??P67
15:10:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), ??P35, csma.a, csma, FrankMcCabe, DavidHirtle, igor (muted), +49.355.69.aaaa, Harold, Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted), ChrisW,
15:11:02 <Zakim> sorry, SaidTabet, I do not see a party named 'SaidTabet'
15:11:04 <Zakim> ... ??P14, josb (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), +44.125.265.aacc, Mike_Dean, Axel_Polleres (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, johnhall (muted), AlexKozlenkov (muted), JeffP, Sandro,
15:11:07 <Zakim> ... +1.412.242.aadd, [IVML], Dave_Reynolds, ??P67
15:11:09 <Zakim> +GiorgosStoilos; got it
15:11:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:11:13 <Zakim> -csma.a
15:11:14 <AxelPolleres> ... to hassan.
15:11:17 <Zakim> -??P67
15:11:19 <GiorgosStoilos> zakim, +[IVML] is me
15:11:21 <Zakim> sorry, GiorgosStoilos, I do not recognize a party named '+[IVML]'
15:11:27 <pfps> zakim, ??P14 is probably me
15:11:27 <Zakim> +pfps?; got it
15:11:43 <csma> Francois, better hang up and call back: it seems you are me and I am myself.a...
15:11:53 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, who is on the phone
15:11:53 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', AlexKozlenkov
15:11:55 <SaidTabet> Hi, I am having the same problem as Hassan
15:11:57 <GaryHallmark> GaryHallmark has joined #rif
15:12:08 <josb> moment
15:12:15 <PaulVincent> Hi, I've no idea who I am either! :)
15:12:22 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:12:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), ??P35, csma (muted), FrankMcCabe, DavidHirtle, igor (muted), +49.355.69.aaaa, Harold, Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted), ChrisW,
15:12:26 <Zakim> ... pfps?, josb, StellaMitchell (muted), +44.125.265.aacc, Mike_Dean, Axel_Polleres (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, johnhall (muted), AlexKozlenkov (muted), JeffP (muted), Sandro,
15:12:28 <Zakim> ... +1.412.242.aadd, GiorgosStoilos, Dave_Reynolds, MarkusK (muted)
15:12:29 <Zakim> +??P38
15:12:31 <Zakim> +Gary_Hallmark
15:12:38 <Zakim> +??P72
15:12:47 <SaidTabet> zakim, ??P72 is me
15:12:47 <Zakim> +SaidTabet; got it
15:12:52 <SaidTabet> zakim, mute me
15:12:52 <Zakim> SaidTabet should now be muted
15:13:07 <csma> zakim, ??P38 is me
15:13:07 <Zakim> +csma; got it
15:13:27 <csma> zakim, csma is francois
15:13:27 <Zakim> +francois; got it
15:13:31 <agiurca> zakim, what's the code?
15:13:31 <Zakim> the conference code is 74394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), agiurca
15:13:32 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
15:13:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), ??P35, francois (muted), FrankMcCabe, DavidHirtle, igor (muted), +49.355.69.aaaa, Harold, Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted),
15:13:37 <Zakim> ... ChrisW, pfps?, josb (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), +44.125.265.aacc, Mike_Dean, Axel_Polleres (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, johnhall (muted), AlexKozlenkov (muted), JeffP (muted),
15:13:39 <Zakim> ... Sandro, +1.412.242.aadd, GiorgosStoilos, Dave_Reynolds, MarkusK (muted), csma.a, Gary_Hallmark, SaidTabet (muted)
15:14:43 <ChrisW> hassan, can you scribe?
15:14:52 <LeoraMorgenstern> Who is DrBob?
15:16:26 <sandro> Zakim, aacc is BobMoore
15:16:26 <Zakim> +BobMoore; got it
15:16:44 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
15:16:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), ??P35, francois (muted), FrankMcCabe, DavidHirtle, igor (muted), +49.355.69.aaaa, Harold, Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted),
15:16:48 <Zakim> ... ChrisW, pfps?, josb (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), BobMoore, Mike_Dean, Axel_Polleres (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, johnhall (muted), AlexKozlenkov (muted), JeffP (muted), Sandro,
15:16:52 <Zakim> ... JeffP.a, GiorgosStoilos, Dave_Reynolds, MarkusK (muted), csma.a, Gary_Hallmark, SaidTabet (muted)
15:17:11 <Franois> zakim, ??35 is me.
15:17:11 <Zakim> sorry, Franois, I do not recognize a party named '??35'
15:17:21 <Franois> zakim ??P35 is me.
15:17:41 <PaulVincent> I'm here!
15:18:01 <PaulVincent> On phone but who am I?
15:18:04 <Franois> zakim mute me.
15:18:24 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
15:18:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), ??P35, francois (muted), FrankMcCabe, DavidHirtle, igor (muted), +49.355.69.aaaa, Harold, Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted),
15:18:28 <Zakim> ... ChrisW, pfps?, josb (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), BobMoore, Mike_Dean, Axel_Polleres (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, johnhall (muted), AlexKozlenkov (muted), JeffP (muted), Sandro,
15:18:30 <Zakim> ... JeffP.a, GiorgosStoilos, Dave_Reynolds, MarkusK (muted), csma.a, Gary_Hallmark, SaidTabet (muted)
15:18:38 <cgi-irc> cgi-irc has joined #RIF
15:18:50 <cgi-irc> Sorry IRC kicked me out...
15:18:57 <csma> zakim, csma.a is me
15:18:58 <Zakim> +csma; got it
15:19:23 <PaulVincent> Chris - could scribe but if I can't talk it won't be good...
15:19:58 <sandro> ack ??P67
15:20:02 <sandro> ack JeffP
15:20:03 <ChrisW> Scribe: Gary Hallmark
15:20:07 <sandro> ack AlexKozlenkov 
15:20:07 <Zakim> +Gerd_Wagner
15:20:09 <PaulVincent> Alex - you have my phone ID ... !!!
15:20:11 <ChrisW> scribenick: GaryHallmark
15:20:31 <Franois> I thought I were P35???
15:20:45 <Franois> I raised hands! 
15:20:53 <Franois> Izakim unmute me. 
15:20:59 <Franois> zakim unmute me. 
15:20:59 <sandro> Zakim, P35 is FrancoisB
15:20:59 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'P35'
15:21:04 <sandro> Zakim, ??P35 is FrancoisB
15:21:04 <Zakim> +FrancoisB; got it
15:21:21 <sandro> zakim aaaa is GerdWagner
15:21:23 <pfps> zakim, pfps? is pfps
15:21:23 <Zakim> +pfps; got it
15:21:25 <sandro> zakim, aaaa is GerdWagner
15:21:25 <Zakim> +GerdWagner; got it
15:21:31 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
15:21:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), FrancoisB, francois (muted), FrankMcCabe, DavidHirtle, igor (muted), GerdWagner, Harold, Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted),
15:21:34 <Zakim> ... ChrisW, pfps, josb (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), BobMoore, Mike_Dean, Axel_Polleres (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, johnhall (muted), AlexKozlenkov, JeffP, Sandro, JeffP.a,
15:21:36 <Franois> zakim mute me.
15:21:37 <Zakim> ... GiorgosStoilos, Dave_Reynolds, MarkusK (muted), csma, Gary_Hallmark, SaidTabet (muted), Gerd_Wagner
15:22:21 <sandro> Zakim, GerdWagner is G
15:22:21 <Zakim> +G; got it
15:22:22 <cgi-irc> cgi-irc has joined #RIF
15:22:38 <sandro> csma, can you change "G" to who it's supposed to be?
15:22:41 <Franois> zakim FancoisB is me.
15:22:51 <Franois> zakim francois is me.
15:23:28 <sandro> zakim, drop francois
15:23:28 <Zakim> francois is being disconnected
15:23:30 <Zakim> -francois
15:23:44 <Hassan> It's me
15:24:01 <GaryHallmark> will have telecon next week
15:24:02 <sandro> So, call back, Hassan.   We miss you.  :-)
15:24:15 <Zakim> +??P20
15:24:21 <GerdWagner> GerdWagner has joined #rif
15:24:40 <Zakim> -AlexKozlenkov
15:24:40 <JeffP> I will register 
15:24:40 <LeoraMorgenstern> Peter, I will sign up.
15:24:42 <sandro> Zakim, ??P20 is Hassan
15:24:42 <Zakim> +Hassan; got it
15:24:45 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, unmute me
15:24:45 <Zakim> sorry, AlexKozlenkov, I do not see a party named 'AlexKozlenkov'
15:24:48 <LeoraMorgenstern> But 1. I don't need to be fed ;-)
15:24:50 <SaidTabet> Peter, please add me
15:24:58 <GaryHallmark> please sign up now for f2f4
15:25:00 <LeoraMorgenstern> and 2. I have to wait for management approval to sign up officially.
15:25:09 <AlexKozlenkov> Peteer, please add me and respond to my e-mail
15:25:32 <GerdWagner> zakim, mute me
15:25:32 <Zakim> Gerd_Wagner should now be muted
15:25:41 <AlexKozlenkov> Our assistants could not make the registration
15:25:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:26:07 <ChrisW> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F4
15:26:22 <PaulVincent> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
15:26:22 <Zakim> +PaulVincent; got it
15:27:15 <AxelPolleres> +1 for work focused meeting
15:27:24 <GaryHallmark> *me wonders what the command is to advance the agenda
15:27:33 <Zakim> -Harold
15:28:43 <sandro> zakim, take up next item
15:28:43 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
15:28:52 <GaryHallmark> chris: considering 2 parallel sessions for F2F4
15:28:53 <sandro> Topic: F2F4
15:29:03 <Zakim> +[NRCC]
15:29:16 <sandro> GaryHallmark, the agenda is not in Zakim today, so just used "Topic: whatever" by hand.
15:29:30 <Harold> zakim, [NRCC] is me
15:29:30 <Zakim> +Harold; got it
15:31:04 <GaryHallmark> chris: explains plans for F2F4 schedule
15:31:54 <pfps> pfps has joined #rif
15:32:05 <sandro> q?
15:32:21 <sandro> ack ??P14
15:32:26 <LeoraMorgenstern> yes
15:32:27 <AxelPolleres> I would be glad if we can come out of the RIFRAF meeting with a concrete plan what the document should roughly look like.
15:32:28 <DaveReynolds> possibly ...
15:32:32 <sandro> ack +44.125.265.aacc
15:32:36 <sandro> ack ??P35
15:32:37 <LeoraMorgenstern> Yes, I would like to attend both
15:32:39 <GaryHallmark> chris: UCR and Technical Design will be in parallel
15:32:39 <sandro> ack pfps 
15:32:42 <sandro> q?
15:32:44 <csma> q+
15:32:49 <PaulaP> I would also like to attend both
15:32:50 <LeoraMorgenstern> (Though, as I said, I can only watch on Saturday)
15:32:55 <AxelPolleres> ... and time schedule.
15:32:56 <csma> ack csma
15:34:18 <GaryHallmark> chris: actions will be assigned to parallel groups but decisions will be made in plenary
15:34:51 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:34:51 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:36:18 <johnhall> SBVR - nothing new
15:36:26 <PaulVincent> PRR - nothing new AFAIK
15:36:33 <GaryHallmark> Topic: Laison
15:36:47 <csma> continued
15:36:50 <GaryHallmark> Topic: Action Review
15:37:13 <csma> ack csma
15:37:29 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:37:29 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:37:42 <csma> continued
15:38:56 <csma> ACTION-120 continued
15:39:06 <csma> ACTION-121 continued
15:39:13 <csma> ACTION-122 continued
15:39:43 <csma> ACTION-141 continued
15:40:06 <csma> ACTION-142 continued
15:40:38 <csma> ack csma
15:40:56 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:40:56 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:41:14 <AxelPolleres> Micheale's mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Oct/0100
15:41:28 <AxelPolleres> s/eale/ael/
15:41:43 <GaryHallmark> Topic: Technical Design
15:42:10 <ChrisW> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/A.1.0_Nucleus%3A_Positive_Conditions
15:42:32 <GerdWagner> zakim, unmute me
15:42:32 <Zakim> Gerd_Wagner should no longer be muted
15:43:09 <GaryHallmark> chris: try to write rules using latest version of core language
15:43:39 <csma> q+
15:43:42 <GaryHallmark> ... what is missing, what should be added?
15:43:57 <ChrisW> q?
15:44:01 <csma> ack csma
15:44:06 <GerdWagner> q+
15:44:39 <GaryHallmark> christian: what were the poblems and issued encountered in your translation exercise?
15:44:47 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:44:47 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:45:43 <GaryHallmark> gerd: object type v. data type is still an issue in core
15:46:29 <Franois> msg GerdWagner Here we are! You were not there in the past. 
15:46:38 <GaryHallmark> chris: group decided not to have such a split -- is a split needed in core or can it be an extension
15:46:46 <FrankMcCabe> what are the criteria for the core? When is my feature a core feature?
15:47:32 <Harold> q+
15:47:37 <csma> zakim, unmute me
15:47:37 <Zakim> csma should no longer be muted
15:47:38 <GaryHallmark> gerd: RDF and OWL make this distinction
15:47:57 <josb> RDF does not make this distinction
15:48:30 <GaryHallmark> csma: such a split or not should be illustrated with some examples
15:49:44 <GaryHallmark> chris: core should be simple but extensible
15:49:59 <PaulaP> q?
15:50:10 <ChrisW> ack gerd
15:50:12 <csma> ack gerd
15:50:12 <ChrisW> ack harold
15:50:21 <FrankMcCabe> good
15:50:34 <GaryHallmark> harold: explicit universal quantifiers have been added to core
15:50:39 <FrankMcCabe> q+
15:51:02 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:51:02 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:51:36 <Harold> both the phone and mrc 
15:51:40 <ChrisW> ack frank
15:52:19 <csma> ack csma
15:52:28 <GerdWagner> zakim, mute me
15:52:28 <Zakim> Gerd_Wagner should now be muted
15:52:36 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:52:36 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:52:43 <Harold> Forall now around Horn rules: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/B.1_Horn_Rules
15:53:48 <GaryHallmark> frank: if a feature requires an enormous extension, should it be in core?
15:53:56 <csma> Criticism of the current proposed core design can also come in the form of alternative proposals!
15:54:09 <csma> ack csma
15:54:15 <csma> q+
15:54:21 <GaryHallmark> chris: expect that most rule languages will require some extensions
15:54:36 <ChrisW> q?
15:55:05 <GaryHallmark> frank: some extensions may require core redesign, e.g. multiple theories, strong typing
15:55:32 <GaryHallmark> chris: illustrate cases that require core redesign with examples
15:56:07 <GaryHallmark> csma: another definition of core in phase 1: features that are not controversial
15:56:32 <Zakim> -GiorgosStoilos
15:56:39 <ChrisW> ack csma
15:57:10 <johnhall> Sorry, I have to leave. My action on linking UC5 to requirements is continued.
15:57:12 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/TR/rif-ucr/#Use_Cases
15:57:24 <Zakim> -johnhall
15:57:29 <LeoraMorgenstern> I will volunteer to do this for the Medical Decision Support use case,
15:57:37 <LeoraMorgenstern> since that's the one I'm familiar with
15:57:52 <csma> Paul Vincent
15:58:05 <GaryHallmark> Topic: Volunteers to write rules for Use Cases
15:58:05 <LeoraMorgenstern> yes
15:58:13 <LeoraMorgenstern> Yes to what Chris said
15:58:28 <PaulVincent> Paul Vincent: +1
15:58:31 <GerdWagner> zakim, unmute me
15:58:31 <Zakim> Gerd_Wagner should no longer be muted
15:58:34 <csma> ACTION: to Leora to propose rule examples for medical use case
15:58:34 <PaulaP> I can take use case 2
15:58:34 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
15:58:37 <PaulaP> yes
15:58:42 <PaulVincent> Yes - volunteering
15:59:03 <csma> ACTION: Paul to propose rule examples for UC1
15:59:04 <rifbot> Created ACTION-152 - Propose rule examples for UC1 [on Paul Vincent - due 2006-10-31].
15:59:20 <csma> ACTION: Paula to propose rule examples for UC2
15:59:20 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Paula
15:59:23 <GerdWagner> We'll do several examples and try to link them to use cases
16:00:03 <csma> zakim, unmute me
16:00:03 <Zakim> csma should no longer be muted
16:00:31 <csma> ACTION: deborah to talk to Allen about doing rule examples on UC3
16:00:31 <rifbot> Created ACTION-153 - Talk to Allen about doing rule examples on UC3 [on Deborah Nichols - due 2006-10-31].
16:01:08 <GaryHallmark> chris: these actions must be completed before F2F4
16:01:25 <csma> ACTION: Gerd to do some rule examples and try to connect them to UCs
16:01:25 <rifbot> Created ACTION-154 - Do some rule examples and try to connect them to UCs [on Gerd Wagner - due 2006-10-31].
16:02:22 <csma> ACTION: csma to talk to PhilippeB about rule examples and connecting them to UCs
16:02:22 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - csma
16:02:25 <Franois> Sorry, I must leave now. Francois
16:02:34 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
16:02:34 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Dave_Reynolds
16:02:37 <Zakim> -FrancoisB
16:02:55 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
16:02:55 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Sandro
16:03:44 <SaidTabet> Like Franc,ois...I need to leave as well.
16:03:49 <Zakim> -SaidTabet
16:04:31 <GaryHallmark> chris: as you work on rules for the use cases, point out difficulties encountered
16:05:17 <csma> ACTION: Dave to do rule examples for UC8
16:05:17 <rifbot> Created ACTION-155 - Do rule examples for UC8 [on Dave Reynolds - due 2006-10-31].
16:05:25 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
16:05:25 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose BobMoore
16:05:48 <csma> ACTION: Sandro to do rule examples for UC5
16:05:48 <rifbot> Created ACTION-156 - Do rule examples for UC5 [on Sandro Hawke - due 2006-10-31].
16:06:12 <JeffP> I can give it a try
16:06:52 <csma> ACTION: Jeffp to do rule examples as extensions of OWL UC7
16:06:52 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeffp
16:07:08 <AxelPolleres> Acknowledged to take UC10 "Publishing Rules for Interlinked Metadata", probably not before next Telecon though, but before f2f.
16:07:20 <csma> ACTION: Gary to do rule examples on UC10
16:07:20 <rifbot> Created ACTION-157 - Do rule examples on UC10 [on Gary Hallmark - due 2006-10-31].
16:07:32 <csma> ACTION: Axel to do rule examples for UC10
16:07:32 <rifbot> Created ACTION-158 - Do rule examples for UC10 [on Axel Polleres - due 2006-10-31].
16:08:01 <AxelPolleres> UC 10 has been assigned twice on the action tracker....
16:08:10 <GaryHallmark> chris: include constructive criticism
16:08:28 <GaryHallmark> topic: RIFRAF
16:08:57 <csma> ACTION-148 continued
16:09:10 <csma> ACTION-149 continued
16:09:21 <LeoraMorgenstern> Not much progress
16:09:31 <LeoraMorgenstern> Sandro handed in a small ontology piece
16:09:34 <AxelPolleres> q+
16:09:51 <GaryHallmark> Leora: not much progress on OWL ontology for RIFRAF
16:09:51 <LeoraMorgenstern> The rest of us are planning to do it later this week
16:09:54 <ChrisW> ack axel
16:09:54 <GerdWagner> zakim, mute me
16:09:55 <Zakim> Gerd_Wagner should now be muted
16:09:59 <sandro> http://topbraidcomposer.info/
16:10:10 <csma> zakim, mute me
16:10:10 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
16:10:19 <sandro> q+
16:10:54 <ChrisW> ack sandro
16:11:45 <LeoraMorgenstern> q+
16:11:52 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, unmute me
16:11:52 <Zakim> Leora_Morgenstern should no longer be muted
16:12:04 <ChrisW> ack leora
16:12:44 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, mute me
16:12:44 <Zakim> Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
16:12:56 <GaryHallmark> sandro: likes topbraidcomposer but it costs $$ after 30 days
16:13:24 <GaryHallmark> frank: found bugs in protege
16:14:02 <LeoraMorgenstern> q+
16:14:09 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, unmute me
16:14:10 <Zakim> Leora_Morgenstern should no longer be muted
16:15:18 <GaryHallmark> axel: will summarize ontology progress at F2F4
16:18:05 <ChrisW> q?
16:18:06 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, mute me
16:18:06 <Zakim> Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
16:18:16 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, take me off the q
16:18:16 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take me off the q', LeoraMorgenstern
16:18:20 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, q-
16:18:20 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
16:18:42 <GaryHallmark> Topic: Use Cases
16:19:54 <GaryHallmark> david: linking use cases to requirements needs finishing
16:20:31 <csma> ACTION-38 continued
16:20:37 <csma> ACTION-41 continued
16:20:52 <csma> ACTION-72 continued
16:21:40 <csma> ack csma
16:22:46 <csma> ACTION-105 continued
16:22:52 <csma> ACTION-106 continued
16:23:00 <csma> ACTION-131 continued
16:23:06 <csma> ACTION-132 continued
16:23:12 <csma> ACTION-144 continued
16:23:22 <csma> ACTION-147 continued
16:23:25 <Zakim> -JeffP
16:23:27 <Zakim> -josb
16:23:37 <PaulaP> bye
16:23:37 <Zakim> -StellaMitchell
16:23:37 <GerdWagner> -GerdWagner
16:23:38 <JeffP> +1
16:23:38 <Zakim> -Harold
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16:23:40 <Zakim> -MarkusK
16:23:41 <PaulVincent> bye
16:23:41 <Zakim> -FrankMcCabe
16:23:44 <PaulaP> PaulaP has left #rif
16:23:45 <Zakim> -pfps
16:23:45 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:23:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/24-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
16:23:46 <Zakim> -Axel_Polleres
16:23:46 <Zakim> -Dave_Reynolds
16:23:47 <Zakim> -PaulaP
16:23:49 <Zakim> -JeffP.a
16:23:50 <Zakim> -Deborah_Nichols
16:23:52 <Zakim> -PaulVincent
16:23:53 <Zakim> -DavidHirtle
16:23:54 <Zakim> -Mala_Mehrotra
16:23:57 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make record public
16:24:00 <Zakim> -Mike_Dean
16:24:02 <Zakim> -Leora_Morgenstern
16:24:11 <ChrisW> zakim, bye
16:24:11 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Deborah_Nichols, FrankMcCabe, DavidHirtle, +49.355.69.aaaa, Harold, igor, Leora_Morgenstern, ChrisW, +43.512.507.9aabb,
16:24:11 <Zakim> Zakim has left #rif
16:24:14 <Zakim> ... +44.125.265.aacc, Mike_Dean, PaulaP, StellaMitchell, Axel_Polleres, Mala_Mehrotra, josb, johnhall, Sandro, AlexKozlenkov, JeffP, Dave_Reynolds, GiorgosStoilos, MarkusK,
16:24:16 <Zakim> ... Gary_Hallmark, SaidTabet, francois, BobMoore, csma, Gerd_Wagner, FrancoisB, pfps, G, Hassan, PaulVincent
16:24:34 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:24:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/24-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
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16:28:24 <sandro> Adrian Giurca
16:28:24 <sandro>     (good standing)
16:28:24 <sandro>     REWERSE
16:28:24 <sandro>     Edit
16:28:24 <sandro>     giurca@tu-cottbus.de
16:29:50 <sandro> GaryHallmark, the person called "G" is "Adrian Giurca"