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19:46:47 <ben_> RRSAgent, do not start a new log
19:46:52 <ben_> RRSAgent, make log world
19:47:40 <ben_> RRSAgent, make log world
19:47:45 <ben_> zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:47:46 <Zakim> ok, ben_; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 47 minutes ago
19:47:52 <ben_> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
19:48:14 <ben_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006OctDec/0034.html
19:48:24 <ben_> agenda+ Announcements, updates and questions
19:48:32 <ben_> agenda+ EDITORZ Survey of Oct 5 (start w/ LC-808)
19:48:40 <ben_> agenda+ Team C Issues for 12 October 2006
19:48:47 <ben_> agenda+ Team B Survey for Oct 12 2006
19:48:54 <ben_> agenda+ Team C Issues for 19 October 2006
19:49:00 <ben_> agenda+ Team B Survey for 19 Oct 2006
19:49:06 <ben_> agenda+ Editor's Issues for 19 October
19:49:30 <ben_> Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
19:49:37 <ben_> ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
19:50:17 <ben_> Regrets: Christophe_Strobbe, Roberto_Ellero
19:57:00 <Andi> Andi has joined #wai-wcag
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20:00:10 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
20:00:17 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:01:08 <Zakim> +Cooper
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20:01:43 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:01:51 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:02:03 <ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:02:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Tim_Boland, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Sofia_Celic
20:02:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:02:18 <Zakim> +??P4
20:02:24 <LucaMascaro> Zakim, [IPcaller is LucaMascaro
20:02:24 <Zakim> +LucaMascaro; got it
20:02:28 <LucaMascaro> Zakim, mute me
20:02:28 <Zakim> LucaMascaro should now be muted
20:02:28 <ben> zakim, ??P4 is Gregg_and_Ben
20:02:29 <Zakim> +Gregg_and_Ben; got it
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20:02:37 <Zakim> +Judy
20:02:46 <Gregg> Gregg has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:03:07 <Makoto> zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
20:03:07 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
20:03:19 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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20:03:24 <Makoto> zakim, mute me
20:03:24 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
20:03:35 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:03:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:03:53 <Zakim> +[IBM]
20:03:56 <Zakim> +Becky_Gibson
20:04:06 <Zakim> +??P13
20:04:06 <Andi> Zakim, IBM is Andi
20:04:07 <Zakim> +Andi; got it
20:04:10 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
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20:04:27 <bengt> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is Bengt_Farre
20:04:27 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:04:50 <Michael> zakim, IPcaller is Sorcha_Moore
20:04:50 <Zakim> +Sorcha_Moore; got it
20:04:58 <Sorcha> zakim, mute me
20:04:58 <Zakim> Sorcha_Moore should now be muted
20:05:01 <Michael> zakim, ??P13 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:05:01 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
20:05:14 <Zakim> -LucaMascaro
20:05:36 <Zakim> +Don_Evans
20:07:04 <Andi> scribe: Andi
20:07:22 <Zakim> + +44.117.971.aaaa
20:07:50 <Michael> zakim, +44 is Sean_Hayes
20:07:50 <Zakim> +Sean_Hayes; got it
20:08:58 <Michael> zakim, take up item 1
20:08:58 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, updates and questions" taken up [from ben_]
20:09:52 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:10:52 <Andi> Gregg summarizes from last week
20:10:53 <Sorcha> brb
20:11:23 <Andi> No decision on web page vs. web unit
20:11:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:11:44 <LucaMascaro> Zakim, [IPcaller is LucaMascaro
20:11:44 <Zakim> +LucaMascaro; got it
20:11:47 <LucaMascaro> Zakim, mute me
20:11:47 <Zakim> LucaMascaro should now be muted
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20:13:34 <Andi> resolution: LC-818, LC-937, LC-639, LC-655, LC-1508 by unanimous consent
20:14:24 <ben> agenda?
20:14:33 <ben> zakim, close agendum 1
20:14:33 <Zakim> agendum 1, Announcements, updates and questions, closed
20:14:34 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:14:36 <Zakim> 2. EDITORZ Survey of Oct 5 (start w/ LC-808) [from ben_]
20:15:10 <ben> zakim, close item 2
20:15:10 <Zakim> agendum 2, EDITORZ Survey of Oct 5 (start w/ LC-808), closed
20:15:11 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:15:12 <Zakim> 3. Team C Issues for 12 October 2006 [from ben_]
20:15:16 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 3
20:15:16 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Team C Issues for 12 October 2006" taken up [from ben_]
20:16:46 <Andi> Resolution: Accept failure technique "Failure due to providing long description for non-text content that does not serve the same purpose or does not present the same information"
20:18:17 <Andi> topic: LC-1073
20:18:24 <Andi> resolution: accept LC-1073 as proposed
20:18:59 <Andi> topic: Using Accessible Rich Internet Application described by property to provide a descriptive, programmatically determined label
20:20:46 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:20:48 <Andi> resolution: accept "Using Accessible Rich Internet Application described by property to provide a descriptive, programmatically determined label" with edits
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20:21:24 <Andi> topic: LC-937
20:21:33 <Andi> resolution: accept LC-937 as proposed
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20:21:50 <Andi> topic: LC-717
20:23:02 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:24:29 <David> zakim, mute me
20:24:29 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
20:24:37 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
20:24:41 <Andi> resolution: accept LC-717 with edits
20:25:11 <Andi> topic: LC-780 and LC-797
20:26:03 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:26:34 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:29:25 <Zakim> -LucaMascaro
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20:34:57 <Michael> ack c
20:36:25 <judy> zakim, mute judy
20:36:25 <Zakim> Judy should now be muted
20:36:28 <David> zakim, unmute me
20:36:28 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
20:36:35 <David> q+
20:37:53 <Andi> refer LC-780 and LC-797 back to Team C
20:39:07 <Andi> topic: LC-798
20:42:35 <Andi> resolution: accept LC-798 with edits
20:45:19 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:45:36 <Michael> q- David
20:45:38 <Michael> ack C
20:45:49 <Andi> topic: LC-858
20:46:09 <becka11y> q+
20:47:31 <David> zakim, mute me
20:47:31 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
20:48:34 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:48:43 <sean> q+
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20:50:06 <ben> ack beck
20:50:10 <ben> ack sean
20:50:17 <Loretta> q+
20:52:07 <Andi> resolution: accept LC-858 with edits
20:57:00 <Zakim> -Don_Evans
20:58:14 <Andi> action: Editorz to revisit definition of "non-text content". Shouldn't be meant to address interactive elements. 
20:59:24 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:59:32 <Andi> action: Loretta to submit an issue wrt modifying SC 1.1.1 and the HTM SC 1.1.1 - should not address interactive elements
21:00:54 <ben> zakim, close this item
21:00:54 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
21:00:55 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:00:56 <Zakim> 4. Team B Survey for Oct 12 2006 [from ben_]
21:00:57 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 4
21:00:57 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Team B Survey for Oct 12 2006" taken up [from ben_]
21:04:53 <Andi> topic: LC-557 and LC-1108
21:05:22 <David> zakim, unmute me
21:05:22 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
21:06:29 <Gregg> q?
21:06:31 <Gregg> ack l
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21:07:52 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:14:38 <Andi> resolution: accept LC-557 and LC-1108 as amended
21:15:12 <Andi> action: David to develop a common failure for including safety critical information in the title attribute of a link
21:18:55 <Andi> topic: LC-563
21:21:11 <Andi> resolution: accept LC-563 as amended
21:21:46 <Andi> topic: LC-913 and LC-1260 
21:23:28 <Michael> q+ to say the accessibility problem is if you _do_ knwo the language
21:24:41 <Michael> ackm
21:24:41 <Andi> q+
21:24:50 <Loretta> ack m
21:24:51 <Zakim> Michael, you wanted to say the accessibility problem is if you _do_ knwo the language
21:25:01 <Loretta> q+
21:25:56 <Gregg> ack a
21:25:58 <Gregg> ack l
21:26:48 <judy> q?
21:28:46 <ben> regrets+ Sorcha Moore
21:29:26 <Andi> q+
21:30:35 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:31:14 <ben> q+ to say that we already have an advisory technique about marking individual words
21:31:17 <ben> ack andi
21:31:43 <ben> ack ben
21:31:43 <Zakim> ben, you wanted to say that we already have an advisory technique about marking individual words
21:32:24 <Zakim> -Judy
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21:37:32 <Sorcha> *Sorcha must exit call now. Will see everyone next week at F2F
21:37:37 <Sorcha> Sorcha has left #wai-wcag
21:37:44 <Zakim> -Sorcha_Moore
21:40:55 <becka11y> scribe: becka11y
21:44:06 <Zakim> -Andi
21:45:10 <sean> q+ is nom de plume a single word?
21:48:00 <becka11y> Resolution:  return Issues 913 and 1260  to team B
21:48:10 <becka11y> Topic: Issue 969
21:48:46 <becka11y> Resolution:  Accept issue 969 with edits suggested in the survey.
21:49:38 <becka11y> zakim, close this item
21:49:38 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
21:49:39 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:49:40 <Zakim> 5. Team C Issues for 19 October 2006 [from ben_]
21:50:36 <ben> zakim, close this item
21:50:36 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, ben
21:50:42 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 6
21:50:42 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Team B Survey for 19 Oct 2006" taken up [from ben_]
21:51:09 <becka11y> Topic: Issue 1437
21:51:22 <becka11y> Resolution: return 1437 back to team B
21:51:34 <becka11y> zakim, close this item
21:51:34 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
21:51:35 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:51:36 <Zakim> 5. Team C Issues for 19 October 2006 [from ben_]
21:51:50 <becka11y> zakim, take up agendum 5
21:51:50 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Team C Issues for 19 October 2006" taken up [from ben_]
21:53:29 <becka11y> Topic: Issue 1121
22:00:49 <becka11y> Resolution: Close issue 1121 as ammended (changing wording to use "reversed rather than cancelled"
22:01:11 <becka11y> Topic: Issue 1122
22:06:58 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea.a
22:07:11 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:08:45 <sean> q+
22:10:51 <sean> q-
22:12:13 <becka11y> Resolution: send issue 1122 to team c. Remove the ticket purchase example. Consider: The only way to make the deletion of information reversible is to never perform the actual removal  from the storage device.  
22:12:56 <becka11y> Topic: issue 1123
22:13:09 <becka11y> Resolution:  accept 1123 with clarification from survey
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22:15:19 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
22:15:20 <Zakim> -Cooper
22:15:21 <Zakim> -Gregg_and_Ben
22:15:23 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:15:24 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
22:15:25 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
22:15:27 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
22:15:28 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes
22:15:29 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:15:30 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
22:15:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Tim_Boland, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Sofia_Celic, LucaMascaro, Gregg_and_Ben, Judy, Makoto_Ueki, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Alex_Li, Becky_Gibson, Andi, Bengt_Farre,
22:15:35 <Zakim> ... Sorcha_Moore, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Don_Evans, +44.117.971.aaaa, Sean_Hayes, [IPcaller], Cynthia_Shelly?, Cynthia_Shelly, David_MacDonald
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22:25:08 <Michael> present: Tim_Boland, Michael_Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Sofia_Celic, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, Judy_Brewer, Makoto_Ueki, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Alex_Li, Sorcha_Moore, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Becky_Gibson, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bengt_Farre, Don_Evans, Sean_Hayes, Cynthia_Shelly, LucaMascaro, David_MacDonald
22:25:14 <Michael> zakim, bye
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22:25:19 <Michael> rrsagent, bye
22:25:19 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/19-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
22:25:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editorz to revisit definition of "non-text content". Shouldn't be meant to address interactive elements.  [1]
22:25:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/19-wai-wcag-irc#T20-58-14
22:25:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Loretta to submit an issue wrt modifying SC 1.1.1 and the HTM SC 1.1.1 - should not address interactive elements [2]
22:25:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/19-wai-wcag-irc#T20-59-32
22:25:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David to develop a common failure for including safety critical information in the title attribute of a link [3]
22:25:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/19-wai-wcag-irc#T21-15-12