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12:31:33 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
12:31:33 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I don't know what conference this is
12:31:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, LiamMcGee, judy, Andrew, Wayne, shadi
12:31:43 <shadi> zakim, this is EO
12:31:43 <Zakim> ok, shadi; that matches WAI_EOWG()8:30AM
12:31:46 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
12:31:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick
12:32:00 <shadi> meeting: EOWG
12:32:05 <shadi> chair: Judy
12:32:33 <Zakim> +Justin
12:32:47 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2006OctDec/0022.html
12:32:58 <Zakim> +Liam_McGee
12:34:04 <Zakim> +Sylvie_Duchateau\Tanguy_Lohéac
12:34:42 <shadi> scribe: Wayne
12:34:42 <Wayne> scribe: wayne
12:34:46 <shadi> scribenick: Wayne
12:34:55 <judy> zakim, who's here?
12:34:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick, Justin, Liam_McGee, Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac
12:34:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, LiamMcGee, judy, Andrew, Wayne, shadi
12:35:58 <Wayne> Topiic: WAI Flyer
12:37:05 <Wayne> Judy: The flyer is our main handout; want it to be orderable; something people could print locally.
12:37:21 <Zakim> +Andrew_Arch
12:40:26 <Wayne> Topic: WAI Flyer
12:40:29 <Zakim> +Jack
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12:42:21 <Wayne> Judy: Currnt goal is to update and correct the document; sponser list changes; print in quantity but do the sponsor list in black overlay
12:43:56 <Wayne> WAI Activities
12:46:33 <Wayne> Wayne: ... add standards to guidelines / standares..
12:46:41 <Wayne> Group: agrees
12:48:06 <Wayne> action: chang guidelines to guidelines / standards in WAI Activities
12:52:55 <Wayne> Judy: [The list was reorganized; with rephrasing the closely matches documents.]
12:54:00 <Wayne> Jack: The Translations entry gives the impression that we opperate a translated
12:54:38 <Wayne> Shadi: Relay translations
12:54:55 <Wayne> Jack: Assist or help in translations.
12:56:24 <shadi> s/Relay translations/we do actively manage and/or host translations. Suggest "relay" or "provide"
12:56:53 <Wayne> Judy: Is there a way that the translations can be fitted into the list [printed] and keep the visual flow.
12:57:03 <Andrew> Andrew: Translations available and encouraged
12:57:13 <judy> (capturing some suggestions)
12:57:32 <judy> 'note: translations available and encouraged'
12:57:48 <judy> 'translations of key wai resources'
12:58:10 <judy> 'translation resources'
12:58:22 <judy> 'translation guidance'
12:58:57 <judy> 'translation guidance and hosting'
13:00:07 <Andrew> 'translated resources'
13:02:44 <Wayne> Liam: Translation resources imply a service; translated resources implies a items.
13:04:36 <Andrew> 'translated WAI resources'
13:05:20 <judy> 'translated resources and guidance'
13:06:42 <Wayne> Shadi: voluntary translations?
13:07:04 <judy> 'voluntary translations'
13:09:26 <Wayne> Group: concensus: "Translated resources"
13:10:48 <Wayne> Judy: Look at the WAI resources: reactions to: which itens are listed, how they are listed and order.
13:12:14 <Wayne> Sylvie: Order by  type: .. Guidelines should be with Quicktips.  (example)
13:16:00 <Wayne> Judy: Can the list be reduced to seven...
13:17:01 <Wayne> Andrew:  The topics on the WAI page are fewer... Should we get back to the basics and list the four topic areas...
13:18:30 <Wayne> Judy: Regarding the (WAI Site) nav, it was difficult to fine umbrella categories.  This site references explicit documents because they might be a more direct draw.
13:19:46 <Wayne> Shadi: Documents might be the wrong start because topics are more timeless.
13:20:56 <shadi> ...if documents approach than agree to strike components (not first thing to point people to)
13:21:23 <shadi> ...finally, not sure why quick tips is listed
13:21:43 <Wayne> Judy: Reasons: documents are on line resources; people read them to get caught up; the actual documents are a draw;  the quick tips are on the back of the flyer.  
13:23:57 <Wayne> Liam: The flyer acts as a draw; so maybe we need to keep the draws.
13:25:58 <Wayne> Wayne: Since documents change like sponsers maybe they should be printed in the same format as sponsers.
13:35:36 <judy> (summary of several comments -- if going to 7 bulleted items, essential components may be less of a draw than some of the other topics, so remove that)
13:36:08 <judy> jb: let's revisit order of 7 remaining items
13:38:36 <Wayne> Liam and Andrew: Like evaluating accessibility to last.
13:42:03 <Wayne> Sylvie: Quick tips fits more logically after Accessibility Guidelines 
13:44:47 <Zakim> +Natasha
13:45:20 <Wayne> Wayne: Perhaps we need to logical order first and then consider visual effect.
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13:47:49 <Wayne> Topic: Policies Relating Web Accessibility
13:48:46 <Wayne> Judy: Justin did a significant up of the policy references page; we will review it; some search for gaps
13:50:14 <Wayne> Justin: [Walks through document] Looked at al change dcuments; updated links; found new policies...
13:50:26 <Wayne> Judy: Are there new countries
13:50:46 <Wayne> Justin: Isreal, Hong Kong and India
13:51:20 <Wayne> Judy: This will need some followup checking.
13:53:41 <Wayne> Judy: Please look carefully at this document to study the order and content.  
13:54:53 <judy> action: judy ask shawn abt positioning of "related page" link at top of country sections in policy ref page
13:56:45 <judy> action: judy check w/ shawn abt broken links on "submitting changes" doc
13:59:19 <judy> action: jb/jt meet to discuss contacts to check w/, & who checks
13:59:24 <Wayne> Group: Looked at parts of document; needs careful check.
14:07:46 <Andrew> Andrew: the California link is incorrect on the US states page
14:07:50 <LiamMcGee> action: liam will track down the link to the DED
14:07:52 <shadi> action: saz coordinate with jb on some EU contacts
14:09:00 <Andrew> action: Andrew to follow up with India via a contact
14:09:37 <Andrew> action: Andrew to proof read and update he Australia States entries
14:09:55 <Wayne> Action: Follow up:  Shadi: EU; Andrew: in Austrailia and India; Wayne: Califorina 
14:11:45 <Wayne> Andrew: Will we send it as a WAI Highlight sent our on RSS, and should it be a separate feed. 
14:13:19 <Wayne> Judy: Suggestion is to do it as part of the standard three: Wai Intrest List; Wai Highlights and RSS feed
14:14:19 <Wayne> Topic: Face-to-Face
14:15:37 <Wayne> Judy: Have 2-day meeting in late January January  22-23 at WAI Mini-Tech plenary
14:17:54 <judy> zakim, who's here?
14:17:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick, Justin, Liam_McGee, Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac, Andrew_Arch, Jack, Natasha
14:17:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see Andrew, Jack, Zakim, RRSAgent, LiamMcGee, judy, Wayne, shadi
14:18:23 <Wayne> Judy - polls the group:  Should we meet?  Would you come?
14:21:55 <Wayne> Group: Wayne yes/yes; Andrew yes/.7yes; Jack yes/likely; Justin yes/ likely; Liam yes/ unlikely; Sylvie yes/ maybe; Natasha yes/ likely; Shadi yes/ refer to Judy; Judy yes/yes 
14:24:25 <Andrew> Andrew: suggest a possible joint meeting with mobile Web best practices if they are still meeting
14:24:41 <Wayne> Judy: there is a possibility for joint meetings.
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14:28:34 <Zakim> -Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac
14:28:35 <Zakim> -Jack
14:28:36 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:28:37 <Zakim> -Justin
14:28:39 <Zakim> -Wayne_Dick
14:28:41 <Zakim> -Judy
14:28:41 <Zakim> -Andrew_Arch
14:28:43 <Zakim> WAI_EOWG()8:30AM has ended
14:28:44 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick, Justin, Liam_McGee, Sylvie_Duchateau\Tanguy_Lohéac, Andrew_Arch, Jack, Natasha
14:28:51 <shadi> zakim, bye
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14:28:57 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
14:29:01 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
14:29:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-minutes.html shadi
14:29:03 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
14:29:08 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-actions.rdf :
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: chang guidelines to guidelines / standards in WAI Activities [1]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T12-48-06
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: judy ask shawn abt positioning of "related page" link at top of country sections in policy ref page [2]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T13-54-53
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: judy check w/ shawn abt broken links on "submitting changes" doc [3]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T13-56-45
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jb/jt meet to discuss contacts to check w/, & who checks [4]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T13-59-19
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: liam will track down the link to the DED [5]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-07-50
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: saz coordinate with jb on some EU contacts [6]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-07-52
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andrew to follow up with India via a contact [7]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-09-00
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andrew to proof read and update he Australia States entries [8]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-09-37
14:29:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Follow up:  Shadi: EU; Andrew: in Austrailia and India; Wayne: Califorina  [9]
14:29:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-09-55