IRC log of eo on 2006-10-13
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- 12:31:17 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc
- 12:31:24 [Zakim]
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- 12:31:33 [shadi]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 12:31:33 [Zakim]
- sorry, shadi, I don't know what conference this is
- 12:31:34 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, LiamMcGee, judy, Andrew, Wayne, shadi
- 12:31:43 [shadi]
- zakim, this is EO
- 12:31:43 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; that matches WAI_EOWG()8:30AM
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 12:31:46 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick
- 12:32:00 [shadi]
- meeting: EOWG
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- chair: Judy
- 12:32:33 [Zakim]
- +Justin
- 12:32:47 [shadi]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2006OctDec/0022.html
- 12:32:58 [Zakim]
- +Liam_McGee
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- +Sylvie_Duchateau\Tanguy_Lohéac
- 12:34:42 [shadi]
- scribe: Wayne
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- scribe: wayne
- 12:34:46 [shadi]
- scribenick: Wayne
- 12:34:55 [judy]
- zakim, who's here?
- 12:34:55 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick, Justin, Liam_McGee, Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac
- 12:34:57 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, LiamMcGee, judy, Andrew, Wayne, shadi
- 12:35:58 [Wayne]
- Topiic: WAI Flyer
- 12:37:05 [Wayne]
- Judy: The flyer is our main handout; want it to be orderable; something people could print locally.
- 12:37:21 [Zakim]
- +Andrew_Arch
- 12:40:26 [Wayne]
- Topic: WAI Flyer
- 12:40:29 [Zakim]
- +Jack
- 12:40:58 [Jack]
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- 12:42:21 [Wayne]
- Judy: Currnt goal is to update and correct the document; sponser list changes; print in quantity but do the sponsor list in black overlay
- 12:43:56 [Wayne]
- WAI Activities
- 12:46:33 [Wayne]
- Wayne: ... add standards to guidelines / standares..
- 12:46:41 [Wayne]
- Group: agrees
- 12:48:06 [Wayne]
- action: chang guidelines to guidelines / standards in WAI Activities
- 12:52:55 [Wayne]
- Judy: [The list was reorganized; with rephrasing the closely matches documents.]
- 12:54:00 [Wayne]
- Jack: The Translations entry gives the impression that we opperate a translated
- 12:54:38 [Wayne]
- Shadi: Relay translations
- 12:54:55 [Wayne]
- Jack: Assist or help in translations.
- 12:56:24 [shadi]
- s/Relay translations/we do actively manage and/or host translations. Suggest "relay" or "provide"
- 12:56:53 [Wayne]
- Judy: Is there a way that the translations can be fitted into the list [printed] and keep the visual flow.
- 12:57:03 [Andrew]
- Andrew: Translations available and encouraged
- 12:57:13 [judy]
- (capturing some suggestions)
- 12:57:32 [judy]
- 'note: translations available and encouraged'
- 12:57:48 [judy]
- 'translations of key wai resources'
- 12:58:10 [judy]
- 'translation resources'
- 12:58:22 [judy]
- 'translation guidance'
- 12:58:57 [judy]
- 'translation guidance and hosting'
- 13:00:07 [Andrew]
- 'translated resources'
- 13:02:44 [Wayne]
- Liam: Translation resources imply a service; translated resources implies a items.
- 13:04:36 [Andrew]
- 'translated WAI resources'
- 13:05:20 [judy]
- 'translated resources and guidance'
- 13:06:42 [Wayne]
- Shadi: voluntary translations?
- 13:07:04 [judy]
- 'voluntary translations'
- 13:09:26 [Wayne]
- Group: concensus: "Translated resources"
- 13:10:48 [Wayne]
- Judy: Look at the WAI resources: reactions to: which itens are listed, how they are listed and order.
- 13:12:14 [Wayne]
- Sylvie: Order by type: .. Guidelines should be with Quicktips. (example)
- 13:16:00 [Wayne]
- Judy: Can the list be reduced to seven...
- 13:17:01 [Wayne]
- Andrew: The topics on the WAI page are fewer... Should we get back to the basics and list the four topic areas...
- 13:18:30 [Wayne]
- Judy: Regarding the (WAI Site) nav, it was difficult to fine umbrella categories. This site references explicit documents because they might be a more direct draw.
- 13:19:46 [Wayne]
- Shadi: Documents might be the wrong start because topics are more timeless.
- 13:20:56 [shadi]
- ...if documents approach than agree to strike components (not first thing to point people to)
- 13:21:23 [shadi]
- ...finally, not sure why quick tips is listed
- 13:21:43 [Wayne]
- Judy: Reasons: documents are on line resources; people read them to get caught up; the actual documents are a draw; the quick tips are on the back of the flyer.
- 13:23:57 [Wayne]
- Liam: The flyer acts as a draw; so maybe we need to keep the draws.
- 13:25:58 [Wayne]
- Wayne: Since documents change like sponsers maybe they should be printed in the same format as sponsers.
- 13:35:36 [judy]
- (summary of several comments -- if going to 7 bulleted items, essential components may be less of a draw than some of the other topics, so remove that)
- 13:36:08 [judy]
- jb: let's revisit order of 7 remaining items
- 13:38:36 [Wayne]
- Liam and Andrew: Like evaluating accessibility to last.
- 13:42:03 [Wayne]
- Sylvie: Quick tips fits more logically after Accessibility Guidelines
- 13:44:47 [Zakim]
- +Natasha
- 13:45:20 [Wayne]
- Wayne: Perhaps we need to logical order first and then consider visual effect.
- 13:47:44 [Andrew]
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- 13:47:49 [Wayne]
- Topic: Policies Relating Web Accessibility
- 13:48:46 [Wayne]
- Judy: Justin did a significant up of the policy references page; we will review it; some search for gaps
- 13:50:14 [Wayne]
- Justin: [Walks through document] Looked at al change dcuments; updated links; found new policies...
- 13:50:26 [Wayne]
- Judy: Are there new countries
- 13:50:46 [Wayne]
- Justin: Isreal, Hong Kong and India
- 13:51:20 [Wayne]
- Judy: This will need some followup checking.
- 13:53:41 [Wayne]
- Judy: Please look carefully at this document to study the order and content.
- 13:54:53 [judy]
- action: judy ask shawn abt positioning of "related page" link at top of country sections in policy ref page
- 13:56:45 [judy]
- action: judy check w/ shawn abt broken links on "submitting changes" doc
- 13:59:19 [judy]
- action: jb/jt meet to discuss contacts to check w/, & who checks
- 13:59:24 [Wayne]
- Group: Looked at parts of document; needs careful check.
- 14:07:46 [Andrew]
- Andrew: the California link is incorrect on the US states page
- 14:07:50 [LiamMcGee]
- action: liam will track down the link to the DED
- 14:07:52 [shadi]
- action: saz coordinate with jb on some EU contacts
- 14:09:00 [Andrew]
- action: Andrew to follow up with India via a contact
- 14:09:37 [Andrew]
- action: Andrew to proof read and update he Australia States entries
- 14:09:55 [Wayne]
- Action: Follow up: Shadi: EU; Andrew: in Austrailia and India; Wayne: Califorina
- 14:11:45 [Wayne]
- Andrew: Will we send it as a WAI Highlight sent our on RSS, and should it be a separate feed.
- 14:13:19 [Wayne]
- Judy: Suggestion is to do it as part of the standard three: Wai Intrest List; Wai Highlights and RSS feed
- 14:14:19 [Wayne]
- Topic: Face-to-Face
- 14:15:37 [Wayne]
- Judy: Have 2-day meeting in late January January 22-23 at WAI Mini-Tech plenary
- 14:17:54 [judy]
- zakim, who's here?
- 14:17:54 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick, Justin, Liam_McGee, Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac, Andrew_Arch, Jack, Natasha
- 14:17:56 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Andrew, Jack, Zakim, RRSAgent, LiamMcGee, judy, Wayne, shadi
- 14:18:23 [Wayne]
- Judy - polls the group: Should we meet? Would you come?
- 14:21:55 [Wayne]
- Group: Wayne yes/yes; Andrew yes/.7yes; Jack yes/likely; Justin yes/ likely; Liam yes/ unlikely; Sylvie yes/ maybe; Natasha yes/ likely; Shadi yes/ refer to Judy; Judy yes/yes
- 14:24:25 [Andrew]
- Andrew: suggest a possible joint meeting with mobile Web best practices if they are still meeting
- 14:24:41 [Wayne]
- Judy: there is a possibility for joint meetings.
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- -Natasha
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- -Liam_McGee
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- -Sylvie_DuchateauTanguy_Lohéac
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- -Jack
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- -Shadi
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- -Justin
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- -Wayne_Dick
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- -Judy
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- -Andrew_Arch
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- WAI_EOWG()8:30AM has ended
- 14:28:44 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Shadi, Judy, Wayne_Dick, Justin, Liam_McGee, Sylvie_Duchateau\Tanguy_Lohéac, Andrew_Arch, Jack, Natasha
- 14:28:51 [shadi]
- zakim, bye
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- 14:28:57 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 14:29:01 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 14:29:02 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-minutes.html shadi
- 14:29:03 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, bye
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: chang guidelines to guidelines / standards in WAI Activities [1]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T12-48-06
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: judy ask shawn abt positioning of "related page" link at top of country sections in policy ref page [2]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T13-54-53
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: judy check w/ shawn abt broken links on "submitting changes" doc [3]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T13-56-45
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: jb/jt meet to discuss contacts to check w/, & who checks [4]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T13-59-19
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: liam will track down the link to the DED [5]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-07-50
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: saz coordinate with jb on some EU contacts [6]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-07-52
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Andrew to follow up with India via a contact [7]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-09-00
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Andrew to proof read and update he Australia States entries [8]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-09-37
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Follow up: Shadi: EU; Andrew: in Austrailia and India; Wayne: Califorina [9]
- 14:29:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/13-eo-irc#T14-09-55