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13:36:14 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n core WG
13:36:18 <fsasaki> chair: Francois
13:36:21 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
13:36:26 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
13:36:35 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Oct/0007.html
13:36:40 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
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14:00:50 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:51 <Zakim> +Felix
14:00:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:00:57 <fyergeau> zakim, [ is fyergeau
14:00:57 <Zakim> +fyergeau; got it
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14:05:42 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
14:05:42 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:05:44 <Zakim> +Richard
14:08:11 <fsasaki> topic: action items
14:08:28 <fsasaki> Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (ONGOING)
14:08:41 <fsasaki> Francois: waiting for a reply from Chris Lilley
14:08:50 <fsasaki> action: Francois to give input to wiki for the LTLI summary (ONGOING)
14:09:07 <fsasaki> Francois: started on that
14:09:15 <fsasaki> action: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (ONGOING)
14:09:38 <fsasaki> action: Richard to send his mail on bidi-override scope in CSS2 and CSS 2.1 to www-international and the style-list, and copy the BIDI-unicode list (ONGOING)
14:09:55 <fsasaki> action: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING)
14:10:43 <fsasaki> action: Felix to look for possible participants (esp. implementors) for the WS i18n work (ONGOING)
14:11:28 <fsasaki> Felix: made a presentation at the WS-CG, need to do more recruting
14:11:43 <fsasaki> topic: ITS review and reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JulSep/0174.html
14:13:49 <fsasaki> Richard: we would only reply to the original question, which shoud be fine now
14:14:05 <fsasaki> .. I'd just say: fine, close it
14:14:27 <fsasaki> Francois: fine with me as well
14:14:33 <fsasaki> rrsagent, where am I?
14:14:33 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-14-33
14:15:35 <fsasaki> Richard: link to the document were the changes were made
14:15:43 <fsasaki> s/document/the place in the document/
14:16:50 <fsasaki> iri description at http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#iri-usage
14:17:31 <fsasaki> Richard: IRI section looks o.k.
14:18:12 <fsasaki> Francois: future proove is maybe a problem. If there are changes it is easy to loose track of that section and update it
14:19:27 <fsasaki> Richard: better say "RFC 3987 or its successor"
14:20:14 <fsasaki> action: Felix to change the reference to RFC 3987 to "RFC 3987 or its successor" and go back to Martin
14:21:34 <fsasaki> topic: Reply to XML Schema issue from Francois
14:21:39 <fsasaki> mail from Martin at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/0003.html
14:22:37 <fsasaki> Francois: wait another week for Martin, Felix to ping Martin and Mary
14:22:48 <fsasaki> action: Felix to ping Martin and Mary on the XML Schema issue
14:23:05 <fsasaki> topic: Discussion of time zone issues
14:23:16 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-owl-time-20060927/#timezone
14:23:32 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Oct/0001.html
14:24:14 <fsasaki> Francois: Mark said the ontology is too western centric
14:24:34 <fsasaki> .. e.g. durations are not translatable directly between calendars
14:25:40 <fsasaki> Felix: how should the change the ontology model to avoid this translation problem?
14:29:51 <fsasaki> .. maybe just tell them the problem, they need to fix it
14:29:51 <fsasaki> .. we could also point them to http://www.w3.org/TR/timezone/
14:29:53 <fsasaki> .. our WG note on timezone, e..g with regard to terminology ("offest" versus "timezone")
14:31:46 <fsasaki> .. they are also not aware of Olson IDs
14:33:16 <fsasaki> action: everybody to look for issues in http://www.w3.org/TR/timezone/ until next call
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14:34:55 <fsasaki> topic:  ws i18n comments from Eric
14:35:15 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/0000.html
14:37:06 <fsasaki> Felix: just to make you aware of this
14:37:11 <fsasaki> .. no need to follow up
14:37:20 <fsasaki> topic: i18n rechartering
14:37:47 <fsasaki> Richard: currently the ws i18n wg is expected to work on ws i18n wg and LTLI document
14:38:12 <fsasaki> .. Felix and plh discussed whether the LTLI spec should be in the ws i18n WG
14:39:01 <fsasaki> .. I understand the rationale of the idea, it goes into the direction to have a general specification WG
14:46:21 <fsasaki> Francois: historically LTLI is based on ws i18n, but if LTLI is relevant for other groups as well, we could have it in the same group as the charmod specs
14:46:42 <fsasaki> Richard: how about having the "i18n development WG"?
14:47:04 <fsasaki> Francois: I'd prefer "infrastructure", but could live with "development"
14:48:54 <fsasaki> Richard: o.k., let's go back to Philippe and discuss
14:49:02 <fsasaki> topic: any other business
14:51:08 <Zakim> -fyergeau
14:51:10 <Zakim> -Richard
14:51:11 <Zakim> -Felix
14:51:12 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
14:51:13 <Zakim> Attendees were Felix, [IPcaller], fyergeau, Richard
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14:51:22 <fsasaki> Felix I will attend the XSL-FO workshop next week in Germany
14:51:47 <fsasaki> Francois: we want to give input, would be good to get a summary of the workshop, if available
14:51:54 <fsasaki> Felix: I will take care of that
14:52:01 <fsasaki> adjourned
14:52:18 <fsasaki> present: Felix, Francois, Richard
14:52:26 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:52:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-minutes.html fsasaki
14:58:46 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-actions.rdf :
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Francois to give input to wiki for the LTLI summary (ONGOING) [1]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-08-50
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (ONGOING) [2]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-09-15
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard to send his mail on bidi-override scope in CSS2 and CSS 2.1 to www-international and the style-list, and copy the BIDI-unicode list (ONGOING) [3]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-09-38
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING) [4]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-09-55
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mary will make the updates discussed in Mandelieu on ws-i18n (ONGOING) [5]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-10-14
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to look for possible participants (esp. implementors) for the WS i18n work (ONGOING) [6]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-10-43
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to change the reference to RFC 3987 to "RFC 3987 or its successor" and go back to Martin [7]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-20-14
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to ping Martin and Mary on the XML Schema issue [8]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-22-48
14:58:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: everybody to look for issues in http://www.w3.org/TR/timezone/ until next call [9]
14:58:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-i18ncore-irc#T14-33-16
14:58:50 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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