IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-10-05

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/10/05-wai-wcag-irc

19:54:42 [Michael]

rrsagent, make log world

19:54:51 [Michael]

meeting: WAI WCAG

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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started

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+Andi_Snow_Weaver

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-Andi_Snow_Weaver

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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended

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Attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver

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regrets: Sofia_Celic, Tim_Boland

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006OctDec/0005.html

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agenda+ Announcements, Updates

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agenda+ Team B Survey <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/teamb10052006/>

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agenda+ EDITORZ survey <http://tinyurl.com/g289s>

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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started

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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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+??P3

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea

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+Alex_Li

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+[IBMCambridge]

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+Cooper

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+[IPcaller]

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+Judy

20:01:04 [rscano]

zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Scano

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+Roberto_Scano; got it

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+Christophe_Strobbe

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+[IPcaller]

20:01:39 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller.a]

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+Andi_Snow_Weaver

20:01:50 [bengt]

zakim, [IPcaller.a is Bengt_Farre

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+Bengt_Farre; got it

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+[IPcaller.a]

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+??P15

20:02:19 [Michael]

zakim, ??P3 is Cynthia_Shelly

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+Cynthia_Shelly; got it

20:02:21 [LucaMascaro]

Zakim, IPcaller.a is LucaMascaro

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+LucaMascaro; got it

20:02:27 [Michael]

zakim, ??P15 is Gregg_Vanderheiden

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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it

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+Bruce_Bailey

20:03:37 [Michael]

scribe: Gez

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-Katie_Haritos-Shea

20:03:49 [Michael]

chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea

20:03:52 [LucaMascaro]

Zakim, mute me

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LucaMascaro should now be muted

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-Katie_Haritos-Shea

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea

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Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon

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-Katie_Haritos-Shea

20:06:52 [ben_]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006OctDec/0005.html

20:07:01 [ben_]

Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea

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ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly

20:07:17 [Michael]

zakim, take up item 1

20:07:17 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "Announcements, Updates" taken up [from Michael]

20:07:43 [ben_]

Regrets: Sofia_Celic, Tim_Boland

20:08:05 [Michael]

Meeting page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/10/f2f-meeting

20:08:52 [rscano]

zakim, mute me

20:08:52 [Zakim]

sorry, rscano, I do not see a party named 'rscano'

20:08:59 [rscano]

zakim, i am Roberto_Scano

20:08:59 [Zakim]

ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano

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+[IPcaller]

20:10:36 [rellero__]

Zakim, +[IPcaller] is Roberto_Ellero

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sorry, rellero__, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'

20:10:44 [rellero__]

Zakim, +[IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero

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sorry, rellero__, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller'

20:10:45 [rscano]

akim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero

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-Katie_Haritos-Shea

20:10:55 [rellero__]

tx

20:10:58 [ben_]

zakim, who is on the phone?

20:10:58 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cynthia_Shelly, Alex_Li, Becky_Gibson, Cooper, Roberto_Scano (muted), Judy, Christophe_Strobbe, Gez_Lemon?, Bengt_Farre, Andi_Snow_Weaver,

20:11:01 [Zakim]

... LucaMascaro (muted), Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea

20:11:05 [rellero__]

Zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero

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Roberto_Ellero should now be muted

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+[IPcaller]

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Regrets+ David_MacDonald

20:13:16 [Sorcha]

yes IP caller is Sorcha Moore

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:)

20:14:09 [rscano]

zakim, unmute me

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Roberto_Scano should no longer be muted

20:14:42 [rellero__]

The same for me... :-I

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-LucaMascaro

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+Don_Evans

20:18:21 [ben_]

http://teitac.org/

20:18:34 [Gez]

topic: Team B Survey

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+[IPcaller]

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-Luca_Mascaro?

20:22:57 [judy]

zakim, mute judy

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Judy should now be muted

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20:25:47 [Gez]

q+

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+[IPcaller]

20:26:28 [LucaMascaro]

Zakim, IPcaller is LucaMascaro

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+LucaMascaro; got it

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+[IPcaller]

20:26:32 [LucaMascaro]

Zakim, mute me

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LucaMascaro should now be muted

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-Sorcha_Moore

20:27:20 [Loretta]

q+

20:27:25 [Gregg]

ack g

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ack l

20:29:08 [Andi]

q+

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ack a

20:34:22 [Gez]

Action: Loretta to rewrite intent of 2.4.8

20:41:31 [Gez]

q+

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ack g

20:45:12 [Gez]

Action: Loretta to add comment in 2.4.4 failure about At support for preceding headings

20:52:49 [Gez]

q+

20:53:01 [Gregg]

ack g

21:00:30 [Gez]

Resolution: accept proposal as amended

21:02:02 [Zakim]

-Katie_Haritos-Shea

21:02:50 [Christophe]

zakim, mute me

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Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted

21:03:34 [Zakim]

+Katie_Haritos-Shea

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-Katie_Haritos-Shea

21:05:30 [Christophe]

s/

21:05:30 [Christophe]

s/accept proposal as amended/accept LC-497, LC-510, LC-573, LC-713, LC-1110, LC-1142, LC-1290: Success Criterion 2.4.4 as amended/

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea

21:12:11 [Gez]

Action: Cynthia and Bruce to draft a comment to SSA about problems caused by their suggested technique

21:12:51 [Gez]

Resolution: Accept LC-724: Search facilities as amended with action items

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Topic: Editors Survey

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-Sorcha_Moore

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RESOLUTION: Accept 749 as proposed

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+[IPcaller]

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-Bruce_Bailey

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+Bruce_Bailey

21:20:33 [judy]

zakim, unmute judy

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Judy should no longer be muted

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-Bruce_Bailey

21:23:33 [judy]

zakim, mute judy

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Judy should now be muted

21:25:02 [judy]

zakim, unmute judy

21:25:02 [Zakim]

Judy should no longer be muted

21:25:07 [judy]

q+

21:27:21 [Zakim]

+Bruce_Bailey

21:29:48 [judy]

q-

21:29:54 [judy]

q+

21:32:30 [Loretta]

q+

21:34:16 [Gregg]

ack j

21:34:45 [becka11y]

q+

21:35:11 [Andi]

q+

21:35:38 [Michael]

q+ Cynthia

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ack l

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q+

21:36:14 [Loretta]

q+

21:36:17 [Gregg]

ack b

21:37:46 [Gregg]

ack a

21:37:56 [Michael]

ack alex

21:40:54 [Gregg]

ack c

21:49:54 [Michael]

ack gregg

21:49:56 [Michael]

ack loretta

21:49:58 [Michael]

ack katie

21:50:04 [Michael]

ack cynthia

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-Roberto_Ellero

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+q

21:51:44 [Loretta]

q+

21:52:18 [Gregg]

ack l

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-Don_Evans

21:53:33 [Gregg]

Q+

21:53:37 [Gregg]

acl c

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ack c

21:56:02 [Zakim]

-LucaMascaro

21:58:50 [Michael]

q+ to say "can rely" and "does rely" not a perfect distinction

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q+

22:01:46 [Gregg]

ack g

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ack m

22:01:52 [Zakim]

Michael, you wanted to say "can rely" and "does rely" not a perfect distinction

22:04:34 [Gregg]

ack b

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ack l

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+Michael_Cooper

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q+

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-Cooper

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-Bengt_Farre

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becka11y has left #wai-wcag

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ack c

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q+

22:07:19 [judy]

zakim, who's making noise?

22:07:29 [Loretta]

q+

22:07:30 [Zakim]

judy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Cooper (14%), Cynthia_Shelly (95%), Alex_Li (14%), Gez_Lemon? (4%)

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-Becky_Gibson

22:08:12 [judy]

zakim, who's making noise?

22:08:28 [Zakim]

judy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Cooper (61%), Cynthia_Shelly (57%)

22:08:35 [judy]

zakim, mute michael

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Michael_Cooper should now be muted

22:09:08 [Gregg]

ack l

22:09:25 [Loretta]

q+

22:09:34 [Gregg]

ack a

22:10:52 [judy]

zakim, unmute michael

22:10:52 [Zakim]

Michael_Cooper should no longer be muted

22:14:32 [judy]

zakim, who's making noise?

22:14:45 [Zakim]

judy, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Cooper (8%)

22:15:54 [judy]

q+

22:16:27 [Gregg]

ack gregg

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-Michael_Cooper

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+Michael_Cooper

22:18:11 [Gregg]

ack gez

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ack loretta

22:19:23 [Gregg]

ack michael

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q+

22:21:57 [Gregg]

ack alex

22:23:48 [Loretta]

q+

22:23:53 [Gregg]

ack cy

22:24:39 [Christophe]

zakim, unmute me

22:24:39 [Zakim]

Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted

22:24:57 [Gregg]

ack bruce

22:25:51 [Gregg]

ack judy

22:30:10 [ben_]

Present: Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cynthia_Shelly, Alex_Li, Becky_Gibson, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Judy_Brewer, Christophe_Strobbe, Gez_Lemon, Bengt_Farre, Andi_Snow_Weaver, LucaMascaro, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Sorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Luca_Mascaro

22:30:14 [ben_]

ack gregg

22:32:11 [Zakim]

-Andi_Snow_Weaver

22:34:57 [Gez]

Resolution: Discussed with no resolution

22:35:16 [Zakim]

-Katie_Haritos-Shea

22:35:59 [Zakim]

-Alex_Li

22:36:02 [Zakim]

-Christophe_Strobbe

22:36:04 [Zakim]

-Gez_Lemon?

22:36:06 [Zakim]

-Michael_Cooper

22:36:06 [Zakim]

-Roberto_Scano

22:36:07 [Zakim]

-Cynthia_Shelly

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-Gregg_Vanderheiden

22:36:09 [Zakim]

-Judy

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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid

22:36:13 [Zakim]

-Bruce_Bailey

22:36:40 [Zakim]

-Sorcha_Moore

22:36:42 [Zakim]

WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended

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Attendees were Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Alex_Li, Cooper, Judy, Roberto_Scano, Christophe_Strobbe, Becky_Gibson, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Bengt_Farre, Cynthia_Shelly,

22:36:47 [Zakim]

... LucaMascaro, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Gez_Lemon?, Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Sorcha_Moore?, Sorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Luca_Mascaro?, Michael_Cooper

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22:38:16 [ben_]

RRSAgent, bye

22:38:16 [RRSAgent]

I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/05-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :

22:38:16 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Loretta to rewrite intent of 2.4.8 [1]

22:38:16 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/05-wai-wcag-irc#T20-34-22

22:38:16 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Loretta to add comment in 2.4.4 failure about At support for preceding headings [2]

22:38:16 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/05-wai-wcag-irc#T20-45-12

22:38:16 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Cynthia and Bruce to draft a comment to SSA about problems caused by their suggested technique [3]

22:38:16 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/05-wai-wcag-irc#T21-12-11