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17:37:47 <jallan> zakim, this will be wai_u
17:37:47 <Zakim> ok, jallan; I see WAI_UAWG()2:00PM scheduled to start in 23 minutes
17:38:24 <jallan> chair: Jim Allan
17:38:32 <jallan> scribe: Jan Richards
17:38:48 <jallan> Regrets: Charles M-N
17:39:10 <jallan> title: UAWG Teleconference
17:55:54 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has now started
17:56:01 <Zakim> +Jim_Allan
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18:00:15 <Zakim> +Jan_Richards
18:02:58 <Zakim> +[IBM]
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18:03:29 <jallan> zakim [IBM] parente
18:03:50 <jallan> zakim, [IBM] is parente
18:03:50 <Zakim> +parente; got it
18:06:02 <JR> Topic: 7.1 Respect focus and selection conventions (P1) 
18:07:07 <JR> JA: Liked JR's ATAG reference.
18:07:28 <JR> JA: 7.1 is pretty straightforward.
18:09:11 <JR> JR's msg: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2006OctDec/0002.html
18:09:45 <JR> JA: PP should we add ref to APIs under 7.1 references? 
18:10:03 <Zakim> +[IBM]
18:10:15 <JR> PP: Lots of refs under 7.3
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18:10:43 <JR> JA: Maybe we need a global appendix of refs to APIs etc...rather than bringing them up time after time
18:10:54 <jallan> zakim, [IBM] is cklaws
18:10:54 <Zakim> +cklaws; got it
18:11:09 <JR> JA: Should we remove Motif?
18:11:20 <JR> PP: No leave for legacy purposes.
18:12:36 <JR> JA: 7.3 needs ATSPI ref
18:13:14 <JR> JA: Anything else missing from list ( selection, content focus, and user interface focus) in 7.1 ?
18:15:03 <JR> CL: there are several types of selection.
18:19:13 <JR> CL, JA, PP: Selection in browser content is problematic - some browsers don't allow content selection.
18:20:25 <JR> JA, CL: AT's provide make some selection mechanisms easier.
18:21:06 <JR> JA: Maybe under related techs we need to ref. 1.1 full keyboard access plus other selection CPs
18:21:49 <JR> Topic: 7.2 Respect input configuration conventions (P1) 
18:23:39 <JR> JR: One of the example techs seems to undercut the req.
18:24:50 <JR> CL: Some AT's depart when they use Insert etc.
18:25:09 <JR> JR: I think this is "extending" in a "respectful" way.
18:25:15 <JR> CL: Other ways to look at it
18:25:35 <JR> CL: Have to oveeride keyboard handling of OS
18:26:13 <JR> JA: Real prob is authoring supplied bindings eg. accesskeys than with AT's
18:27:04 <JR> JA: We've had fun with one handed keyboards, sticky keys and Jaws.
18:27:32 <JR> CL: There are definitely challenges.
18:30:05 <JR> CL: HPR added alt+shift+access key for accesskey
18:31:08 <Zakim> -Jan_Richards
18:31:13 <jallan> JR leaves
18:31:21 <jallan> scribe: JA
18:32:22 <jallan> 7.2 needs addtional techniques for additional modifiers, pass through, defining keys to avoid conflicts with user interface keys
18:33:13 <jallan> topic: 7.3 Respect operating environment conventions (P2)
18:36:21 <jallan> CL: There are some issues between AJAX widgets/controls and High contrast mode and alternate keyboard interfaces (sticky keys)
18:39:04 <jallan> CL: Note: update Appendix 3.17 http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10-TECHS/uaag10-tech.html#os-accessibility for all operating systems
18:39:29 <jallan> 3.17 is 3.17 Appendix: Accessibility features of some operating systems
18:40:36 <jallan> update forAccess-X- gnome, kcd; remove DOS, NT4, add new 
18:40:57 <jallan> add references to related specs
18:44:10 <jallan> topic: 7.4 Provide input configuration indications (P2)
18:48:14 <jallan> CL: if user is allowed to change the keybindings then the documentation is no longer current
18:49:00 <jallan> PP: there is keybinding change functionality for the OS in gnome,
18:51:32 <jallan> CL: If user changes keybindings, alert the user that the documentation will no longer be accurate
18:51:58 <jallan> provide some mechanism for the user to retrieve keybinding information
18:52:22 <jallan> new keybinding informatoin, and alter the user of conflicts
18:52:40 <jallan> alter=alert
18:53:05 <jallan> also need ability to reset keybinding to default settings
18:58:08 <Zakim> -cklaws
18:58:09 <Zakim> -Jim_Allan
18:58:09 <Zakim> -parente
18:58:10 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended
18:58:11 <Zakim> Attendees were Jim_Allan, Jan_Richards, parente, cklaws
18:58:26 <jallan> rrsagent, make minutes
18:58:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/05-ua-minutes.html jallan
18:58:41 <jallan> rrsagent, set logs public
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19:00:09 <RRSAgent> I see no action items