IRC log of grddl-wg on 2006-10-04

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14:53:57 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, what conferences do you see?

14:53:57 [Zakim]

I see I18N_TS()10:00AM, HTML_WG()10:00AM, DI_DIWG()10:00AM active

14:53:58 [Zakim]

also scheduled at this time are P3P_(Workshop)11:00AM, HTML_XForms()11:00AM, SW_GRDDL()11:00AM, Team_W3M()8:00AM, MM_MMI(dialog)11:00AM, WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM, XML_Core()11:00AM,

14:54:00 [Zakim]

... SW_HCLS(f2f)3:00AM

14:54:36 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, this is SW_GRDDL

14:54:36 [Zakim]

FabienGandon, I see SW_GRDDL()11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_GRDDL".

14:54:52 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, this will be SW_GRDDL

14:54:53 [Zakim]

ok, FabienGandon; I see SW_GRDDL()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes

14:55:27 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, what conference is this?

14:55:29 [Zakim]

this will be SW_GRDDL()11:00AM conference code 47335, FabienGandon

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SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has now started

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+Murray_Maloney

14:58:35 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda.rdf

14:58:35 [Zakim]

working on it, FabienGandon

14:58:39 [Zakim]

agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-09-27T11:00-0400

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agendum 1 added

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agenda+ publication schedule

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agendum 2 added

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agenda+ Discussion of Primer Document

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agendum 3 added

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agenda+ Review of Use Cases document, reviewing actions from last meeting

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agendum 4 added

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agenda+ GRDDL Spec: [#issue-base-param]

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agendum 5 added

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agenda+ [#issue-output-formats] which output formats should GRDDL support?

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agendum 6 added

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agenda+ [#issue-mt-ns]

14:59:12 [Zakim]

agendum 7 added

14:59:16 [Zakim]

done reading agenda, FabienGandon

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+??P1

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+[Sophia]

15:01:37 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, [Sophia] is FabienGandon

15:01:37 [Zakim]

+FabienGandon; got it

15:02:26 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:02:27 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Murray_Maloney, ??P1, FabienGandon

15:03:55 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, [??P1] is HarryH

15:03:55 [Zakim]

sorry, FabienGandon, I do not recognize a party named '[??P1]'

15:04:07 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, ??P1 is HarryH

15:04:08 [Zakim]

+HarryH; got it

15:05:04 [FabienGandon]

Regrets: Ben, Ian

15:05:10 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:05:10 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Murray_Maloney, HarryH, FabienGandon

15:05:18 [danja]

I keep getting "staff code is not valid"

15:05:34 [danja]

47335#

15:08:22 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:08:22 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Murray_Maloney, HarryH, FabienGandon

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+[IPcaller]

15:10:16 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, what is on the agenda?

15:10:16 [Zakim]

I see 7 items remaining on the agenda:

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1. Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-09-27T11:00-0400

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2. publication schedule

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3. Discussion of Primer Document

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4. Review of Use Cases document, reviewing actions from last meeting

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5. GRDDL Spec: [from #issue-base-param]

15:10:25 [Zakim]

6. [#issue-output-formats] which output formats should GRDDL support?

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7. [#issue-mt-ns]

15:11:45 [danja]

harry: approve minutes as true record?

15:12:14 [danja]

Zakim, pick a scribe

15:12:14 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose FabienGandon

15:12:34 [danja]

Zakim, pick a scribe

15:12:34 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Murray_Maloney

15:12:53 [danja]

Zakim, pick a scribe

15:12:53 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose [IPcaller]

15:13:26 [danja]

harry: will send mail re scribe

15:13:43 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, next agendum

15:13:43 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-09-27T11:00-0400" taken up

15:14:16 [danja]

harry: schedule still aiming for spec oct 24th

15:14:36 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, take up agendum 2

15:14:36 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "publication schedule" taken up

15:14:45 [danja]

harry: Ben unable to make meeting time, main proponent of non-rdf/xml for grddl

15:15:04 [danja]

harry: ok to leave for now?

15:15:38 [danja]

consensus

15:15:53 [danja]

harry: murray, happy with intros?

15:16:33 [danja]

murray: they're not ready yet, new suggestion sent to list

15:16:59 [danja]

murray: wants common treatment to all 3 docs

15:17:12 [danja]

murray: front end/back end

15:17:22 [danja]

murray: cross-set introduction

15:18:01 [danja]

harry: opinions?

15:18:13 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller.a]

15:18:19 [danja]

danny, fabien - ok either way

15:18:41 [danja]

harry: onto primer

15:18:46 [FabienGandon]

ACTION: Murray to work on the cross-introduction.

15:18:49 [FabienGandon]

close this agendum

15:18:54 [danja]

harry: everyone happy - 2 issues

15:18:59 [FabienGandon]

close this agendum

15:19:08 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, take up agendum 3

15:19:08 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "Discussion of Primer Document" taken up

15:19:23 [danja]

harry: self & chime unhappy with identity consolodation (?)

15:19:52 [danja]

brian: has sent mail to group

15:20:09 [danja]

harry: willing to take action

15:20:43 [FabienGandon]

ACTION: Brian and Harry to produce additional running code for the second part of the primer.

15:21:05 [danja]

(this was for foaf + xfn)

15:21:17 [FabienGandon]

close this agendum

15:21:19 [danja]

harry: move to Use Case doc

15:21:20 [briansuda]

my action is in reference to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Sep/0187.html

15:21:37 [danja]

fabian: actions done

15:21:44 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, take up agendum 4

15:21:44 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "Review of Use Cases document, reviewing actions from last meeting" taken up

15:21:53 [danja]

harry: everyone happy with udoc?

15:21:53 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, take up agendum 5

15:21:53 [Zakim]

agendum 5. "GRDDL Spec:" taken up [from #issue-base-param]

15:24:01 [danja]

harry: other issues?

15:24:21 [danja]

harry: anyone want to take testing test harness

15:24:41 [FabienGandon]

ACTION: Danny to take testing test harness.

15:25:13 [danja]

sorry, lost thread...

15:25:28 [danja]

harry: order of processing problems

15:25:44 [FabienGandon]

ACTION: Harry to explain the problem of order processing.

15:25:48 [danja]

harry: xinclude, xslt etc

15:26:19 [danja]

murray: if you want to do more that grddl, poiunt to a pipeline

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s/poiunt/point

15:27:00 [danja]

harry: thoughts?

15:27:11 [danja]

danny: like to see a test case

15:27:34 [danja]

murray: grddl processor could maker policy statement on what it does

15:27:48 [danja]

murray: but spec doesn't need to cover

15:27:52 [danja]

harry: agrees

15:28:18 [danja]

harry: many remaining may be solvable with that approach

15:28:24 [danja]

harry: other issues?

15:29:11 [danja]

murray: concerned with how grddl connects with a namespace (ref. mail on list)

15:29:51 [danja]

murray: everyone should read spec THIS WEEK bring up other issues prior to next telecon

15:30:01 [danja]

s/murry/harry

15:31:10 [danja]

brian: (indistinct) - content negotiation issue, server vs client side, different languages

15:31:36 [danja]

harry: please send email, maybe need note inb spec

15:31:42 [FabienGandon]

close this agendum

15:31:47 [danja]

harry: adjourn

15:31:52 [FabienGandon]

close this agendum

15:31:59 [Zakim]

-Murray_Maloney

15:32:07 [Zakim]

-FabienGandon

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-HarryH

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-[IPcaller.a]

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-[IPcaller]

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SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Murray_Maloney, FabienGandon, HarryH, [IPcaller]

15:33:33 [FabienGandon]

Zakim, IPcaller is BrianSuda

15:33:33 [Zakim]

sorry, FabienGandon, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller'

15:34:08 [briansuda]

Zakim, [IPcaller] is BrianSuda

15:34:08 [Zakim]

sorry, briansuda, I do not recognize a party named '[IPcaller]'

15:34:22 [FabienGandon]

rrsagent, please set these logs world-visible

15:35:20 [FabienGandon]

rrsagent, ScribeNick: danja

15:35:20 [RRSAgent]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'ScribeNick: danja', FabienGandon. Try /msg RRSAgent help

15:35:45 [FabienGandon]

ScribeNick: danja

15:36:01 [FabienGandon]

Scribe: danja

15:36:07 [danja]

thanks for scribe support fabien!

15:36:07 [FabienGandon]

Chair: HarryH

15:37:15 [FabienGandon]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

15:37:15 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/04-grddl-wg-minutes.html FabienGandon

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SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has now started

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+Rachel_Yager

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-Rachel_Yager

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SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Rachel_Yager

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16:08:26 [DanC_lap]

hi brian... there was a little W3C comm team flurry about how we should talk about microformats on the W3C homepage; I wonder if you gave the resulting blurb a look

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16:14:08 [briansuda]

DanC_lap, it looks like it is just the one mention (http://www.w3.org/News/2006#item177)

16:14:30 [DanC_lap]

right

16:15:10 [briansuda]

looks/reads fine to me

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