IRC log of i18ncore on 2006-09-26

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meeting: i18n core Working Group
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chair: Francois
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scribe: Felix
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scribeNick: fsasaki
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I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has now started
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14:01:28 [fyergeau]
zakim, [ is fyergeau
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+fyergeau; got it
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zakim, dial richard
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ok, r12a; the call is being made
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topic: XSL-FO workshop
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Francois: how to give intput to the workshop?
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action: Felix to find out how to give input on the XSL-FO workshop
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in germany ?
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wish i could go too
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Francois: I would like to give input to the WG, rather than to the workshop
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topic: action items
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(minutes from last meeting approved)
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action: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list
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Felix: this was done
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see mail from Martin at (member only)
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Francois: we just wait for Chris reaction, if he does not react, we will follow-up
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action: Francois to give input to wiki for the LTLI summary (PENDING)
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action: Francois to send his reply on xml schema to the list (DONE)
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See mail at
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(Francois describes the issue)
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s/i18n core list/i18n core list (DONE)/
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Francois: put this on the agenda for next week
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Mary: I will take a look at it
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action: Richard to send his mail on bidi-override scope in CSS2 and CSS 2.1 to www-international and the style-list, and copy the BIDI-unicode list (ONGOING)
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action: all to look at charmod resid test suite and gather feedback (PENDING)
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Francois: also have this on the agenda for next week
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Felix: better in two weeks, so that we have Richards input
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action: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING)
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action: Mary will make the updates discussed in Mandelieu on ws-i18n (PENDING)
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Mary: the udates from Mandelieu are still o.k.
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.. we need more participation from other companies in the WS i18n work
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.. esp. other implementations from other companies
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action: Felix to look for possible participants (esp. implementors) for the WS i18n work
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s/Mandelieu on ws-i18n (PENDING)/Mandelieu on ws-i18n (DONE)/
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Mary: need to put the editors copy on the W3C server
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editors copy is at
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discussion on the status of the relation between policy framework and ws-i18n
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Francois: would be good to have one document with clearly separated parts, one on policy, one on the i18n specific issues
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Felix: Mary, have you worked on policy assertions for i18n?
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Mary: not so far. But is easy to get started with it
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Discussion on the difference between "domain-specific" versus "not domain-specific"
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topic: XSL-FO requirements workshop in Germany (part 2)
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workshop HP at
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Francois: international requirements are a good thing for XSL-FO
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Felix: do you think there is interest in the workshop from India?
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Richard: maybe
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Francois: there have been announcements
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topic: working group naming
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Richard: Philippe Le Hegaret is happy with the core charter and the character model charter
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.. the ws-i18n charter needs more discussion
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.. we will recharter before the end of the year or before
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.. the current naming is:
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.. "core" for comments and former GEO activities
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.. "Web Services Internationalization Working Group" for ws i18n
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.. and the third group for character model
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.. the question is how to name the third group or possibly the other groups
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.. the third groups would be for spec work, initially charmod. How should we call it?
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.. "architecture WG", "i18n infrastructure WG", "i18n deployment WG", ...
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(discussion on the meaning of the term "core" - a group for spec writing or review / education?)
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(Richard would like to name the charmod WG not too specific, to be able to reuse the name)
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Francois: I would prefer "infrastructure" WG
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Richard: i18n development WG
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topic: next meeting
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Richard will be absent next week
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I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Felix, [IPcaller], fyergeau, Richard, [IBM], Mary
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