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13:11:36 <Steven> Meeting: Weekly RDF in HTML Task Force
13:11:44 <Steven> CHair: Ben
13:11:44 <EliasT> Chair: benadida
13:12:09 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Sep/0017
13:12:32 <benadida> Steven: F2F with HTML WG last week, briefly cover RDFa
13:12:39 <benadida> ... nothing significant to report on this front.
13:12:51 <benadida> ... HTML WG is behind the TF
13:13:42 <benadida> Ben: in last call?
13:13:46 <benadida> Steven: soon
13:14:17 <benadida> Ben: namespace URI for XHTML2?
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13:14:39 <benadida> Steven: continue to use the XHTML1 namespace? problem with # or / at the end
13:15:08 <benadida> Ben: how does that work with new elements?
13:15:19 <benadida> Steven: nothing wrong with adding new elements to namespace
13:15:43 <benadida> MarkB: 83261 (a new temp one)
13:16:06 <benadida> Elias: no change in semantics in any of the existing elements?
13:16:21 <benadida> Steven: namespaces don't define content model, only disambiguate which elements you're talking about
13:16:53 <benadida> Elias: won't the browser makers complain about how to differentiate between XHTML1 and XHTML2?
13:17:10 <benadida> Steven: not what the namespace is for. There is discussion around here.
13:17:32 <Zakim> +??P5
13:17:36 <MarkB_> zakim, i am ?
13:17:36 <Zakim> +MarkB_; got it
13:17:39 <benadida> ... namespace spec does not spec that namespaces should be used to decide how to process
13:18:05 <benadida> Elias: are implementors on the WG?
13:18:24 <benadida> Steven: yes some, there may be a version attribute to differentiate the versions
13:18:36 <benadida> Ben: is there a change in the MIME type?
13:19:02 <benadida> Steven: the base MIME type stays the same
13:19:15 <benadida> ... profile can help differentiate between diff versions of XHTML
13:19:19 <benadida> Elias: is profile in XHTML2?
13:19:36 <Steven> it's in the media type
13:20:26 <benadida> Steven: the profile is in the media type, not in the document
13:21:20 <benadida> ... have to use the longer media type for XHTML2
13:21:30 <benadida> MarkB: won't run out of space here
13:21:48 <benadida> Elias: yes, but it doesn't seem like the most practical thing to do
13:22:04 <benadida> MarkB: this discussion has been quite long
13:22:32 <benadida> Elias: I would imagine others are having the same objections, this direction seems awkward
13:22:47 <benadida> Steven: already used on mobile
13:23:07 <benadida> Elias: not much code out there for this, e.g. python script that outputs the headers myself
13:23:44 <benadida> ... no library with the proper header output
13:24:08 <benadida> MarkB: maybe this should be abstracted out,
13:24:31 <benadida> Elias: from my perspective of coding this up, this seems more complicated
13:24:41 <benadida> ... very little code to do mime type parameters
13:24:53 <benadida> ... in the end, end-users don't need this, of course, but worried about adoption by developers
13:25:26 <benadida> Ben: sample XHTML2 document + headers and all?
13:25:30 <benadida> Steven: not yet, but we should have one
13:25:35 <MarkB_> Ben: Elias isn't saying it's more complicated, just that it's more to type.
13:26:10 <benadida> ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc..
13:26:50 <benadida> Steven: discussion about CURIEs and bnodes came up
13:27:06 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-html-minutes#item03
13:27:09 <Steven> member only
13:31:30 <benadida> ACTION: All TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only
13:31:39 <benadida> CONTINUES
13:32:13 <benadida> --CONTINUES
13:33:23 <benadida> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html
13:34:10 <benadida> ACTION: Ben answer Dan's follow-your-nose comment
13:34:21 <benadida> --DONE
13:45:50 <benadida> ACTION: find Elias's question and link to relevant discussion in the past
13:45:58 <benadida> s/find/Ben to find/
13:58:28 <Steven> That means Monday for me
13:58:33 <Steven> Weds and Fri already taken
13:59:19 <benadida> Possibilities: Friday 9am, Monday 9,10,11, 
13:59:42 <benadida> no on Monday 11
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14:01:22 <benadida> next meeting: Monday, Sep. 25th, 9am
14:01:26 <benadida> 1300 UTC
14:01:26 <RalphS> hey, sorry, folks; I never put this in my calendar for today :(
14:01:56 <benadida> going over actions:
14:01:56 <benadida> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html
14:02:02 <Steven> ralph, call moved to next monday
14:02:06 <benadida> ACTION: Mark add words about anonymous nodes to CURIE editors' draft
14:02:09 <Steven> OK with you? 13UTC
14:02:14 <benadida> -- DONE
14:02:17 <RalphS> Monday 1300Z will be a squeeze for me but I think I can do it
14:02:35 <benadida> ACTION: Ben make sure RDFA bookmarklet runs locally
14:02:40 <benadida> -- CONTINUES
14:02:48 <RalphS> I won't be able to do Mondays 1300Z on a regular basis though
14:02:48 <benadida> ACTION: Ben start separate mail threads on remaining discussion topics
14:02:51 <benadida> -- CONTINUES
14:02:59 <benadida> ACTION: Ben update the issues list
14:03:02 <benadida> -- CONTINUES
14:03:10 <benadida> ACTION: Ben write a prototype hGRDDL profile for XHTML 1
14:03:13 <benadida> -- CONTINUES
14:03:31 <benadida> Ben: GRDDL WG receptive RDFa
14:04:37 <benadida> ... still working on convincing WG on the specific use case of hGRDDL
14:04:47 <benadida> ACTION: Mark contact schneegans.de folk about connecting with our work
14:04:50 <benadida> -- CONTINUES
14:06:45 <benadida> ACTION: put together Lee and Elias's emails into the issues list
14:06:49 <benadida> s/put/Ben to put/
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14:08:24 <Zakim> Team_(htmltf)13:06Z has ended
14:08:26 <Zakim> Attendees were Steven, EliasT, benadida, MarkB_
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