IRC log of htmltf on 2006-09-19

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Meeting: Weekly RDF in HTML Task Force

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CHair: Ben

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Chair: benadida

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Sep/0017

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Steven: F2F with HTML WG last week, briefly cover RDFa

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... nothing significant to report on this front.

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... HTML WG is behind the TF

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Ben: in last call?

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Steven: soon

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Ben: namespace URI for XHTML2?

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Steven: continue to use the XHTML1 namespace? problem with # or / at the end

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Ben: how does that work with new elements?

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Steven: nothing wrong with adding new elements to namespace

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MarkB: 83261 (a new temp one)

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Elias: no change in semantics in any of the existing elements?

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Steven: namespaces don't define content model, only disambiguate which elements you're talking about

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Elias: won't the browser makers complain about how to differentiate between XHTML1 and XHTML2?

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Steven: not what the namespace is for. There is discussion around here.

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+??P5

13:17:36 [MarkB_]

zakim, i am ?

13:17:36 [Zakim]

+MarkB_; got it

13:17:39 [benadida]

... namespace spec does not spec that namespaces should be used to decide how to process

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Elias: are implementors on the WG?

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Steven: yes some, there may be a version attribute to differentiate the versions

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Ben: is there a change in the MIME type?

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Steven: the base MIME type stays the same

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... profile can help differentiate between diff versions of XHTML

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Elias: is profile in XHTML2?

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it's in the media type

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Steven: the profile is in the media type, not in the document

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... have to use the longer media type for XHTML2

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MarkB: won't run out of space here

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Elias: yes, but it doesn't seem like the most practical thing to do

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MarkB: this discussion has been quite long

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Elias: I would imagine others are having the same objections, this direction seems awkward

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Steven: already used on mobile

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Elias: not much code out there for this, e.g. python script that outputs the headers myself

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... no library with the proper header output

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MarkB: maybe this should be abstracted out,

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Elias: from my perspective of coding this up, this seems more complicated

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... very little code to do mime type parameters

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... in the end, end-users don't need this, of course, but worried about adoption by developers

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Ben: sample XHTML2 document + headers and all?

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Steven: not yet, but we should have one

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Ben: Elias isn't saying it's more complicated, just that it's more to type.

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ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc..

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Steven: discussion about CURIEs and bnodes came up

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http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-html-minutes#item03

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member only

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ACTION: All TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html

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ACTION: Ben answer Dan's follow-your-nose comment

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--DONE

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ACTION: find Elias's question and link to relevant discussion in the past

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s/find/Ben to find/

13:58:28 [Steven]

That means Monday for me

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Weds and Fri already taken

13:59:19 [benadida]

Possibilities: Friday 9am, Monday 9,10,11,

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no on Monday 11

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next meeting: Monday, Sep. 25th, 9am

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1300 UTC

14:01:26 [RalphS]

hey, sorry, folks; I never put this in my calendar for today :(

14:01:56 [benadida]

going over actions:

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html

14:02:02 [Steven]

ralph, call moved to next monday

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ACTION: Mark add words about anonymous nodes to CURIE editors' draft

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OK with you? 13UTC

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-- DONE

14:02:17 [RalphS]

Monday 1300Z will be a squeeze for me but I think I can do it

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ACTION: Ben make sure RDFA bookmarklet runs locally

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I won't be able to do Mondays 1300Z on a regular basis though

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ACTION: Ben start separate mail threads on remaining discussion topics

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ACTION: Ben update the issues list

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ACTION: Ben write a prototype hGRDDL profile for XHTML 1

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Ben: GRDDL WG receptive RDFa

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... still working on convincing WG on the specific use case of hGRDDL

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ACTION: Mark contact schneegans.de folk about connecting with our work

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ACTION: put together Lee and Elias's emails into the issues list

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s/put/Ben to put/

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-EliasT

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-Steven

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-MarkB_

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-benadida

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Team_(htmltf)13:06Z has ended

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Attendees were Steven, EliasT, benadida, MarkB_

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html benadida

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