IRC log of hcls on 2006-09-15
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc
- 12:58:15 [tslater]
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- 13:08:13 [eneumann]
- DSE: public or members only?
- 13:12:26 [eneumann]
- action+ First steps: clinical data standards
- 13:15:45 [eneumann]
- Action: First steps: clinical data standards
- 13:19:09 [eneumann]
- Jim at meeting now, working on HL7 + CDISC messaging around biomarkers
- 13:21:03 [eneumann]
- ... controlled vocabulary challenges around genetic markers and mutations, how to define for researchers and clinicians. Flat reps will not be enough...
- 13:22:04 [eneumann]
- ... LOINC codes vs SNOMED, how to reconcile differences and ambiguities.
- 13:23:47 [eneumann]
- Jim thinks many vocabularies have a high degree of "good-enough" overlap
- 13:25:16 [eneumann]
- Kerstin: need to build up more concepts on bio molecules and observations; can SW help add these concepts over time
- 13:26:04 [eneumann]
- Jim: LOINC linear mapping of terms for lab test; how to eventually handle multiple lab tests...
- 13:29:25 [eneumann]
- Can we convince the clin stds groups to use RDF-OWL to begin mapping and versioning the vocabs with each other?
- 13:34:16 [eneumann]
- Scenarios: Develop one out in more detail, and implement some form of demo around them; could then be shown within pharma orgs as POC
- 13:36:27 [eneumann]
- Action: Discuss with Ivan Herman on W3C limited view of DSE activities
- 13:37:30 [eneumann]
- Kerstin: better data integration, starting with SDTM : recombinant clinical data ala SW
- 13:40:34 [eneumann]
- Jim: handling data and communications with external collaborators
- 13:44:53 [tslater]
- Ted: semantic web techniques could play an important role in information flow from clinical to pre-clinical and back.
- 13:45:55 [eneumann]
- ... possibly show SDTM may can have better controlled content definitions
- 13:49:02 [eneumann]
- Bo: scenarios -> specific examples
- 13:49:45 [eneumann]
- Jim: use cases on specific pain points...
- 13:50:23 [eneumann]
- Bo: connect use-cases to an overall larger model
- 13:52:16 [eneumann]
- Action: use cases from everyone by next week
- 13:54:02 [tslater]
- Action: Ted will talk to colleagues to see who can make it to Amsterdam, esp. Development Informatics colleagues.
- 13:55:51 [eneumann]
- Kerstin: Janus is for re-usability of all clinical data
- 13:56:31 [eneumann]
- .. Janus: storage model for clinical data, not just data exchange
- 13:58:14 [eneumann]
- Jim: Better data extraction and formatting
- 13:59:13 [eneumann]
- Kerstin: regulated and sensitive data, but somehow include provenance and open up for analysis
- 14:01:54 [eneumann]
- Can references and annotations be made on top of Janus without contaminating it?
- 14:04:01 [eneumann]
- Jim: how to have scientists make use and annotate Janus-based data for translational medicine
- 14:09:40 [eneumann]
- Action: Define schedule for DSE conf calls at F2F
- 14:10:25 [eneumann]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 14:10:40 [eneumann]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
- 14:10:40 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-minutes.html eneumann
- 14:12:01 [eneumann]
- rrsagent, bye
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-actions.rdf :
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: First steps: clinical data standards [1]
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-15-45
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Discuss with Ivan Herman on W3C limited view of DSE activities [2]
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-36-27
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: use cases from everyone by next week [3]
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-52-16
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ted will talk to colleagues to see who can make it to Amsterdam, esp. Development Informatics colleagues. [4]
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-54-02
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Define schedule for DSE conf calls at F2F [5]
- 14:12:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T14-09-40