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13:08:13 <eneumann> DSE: public or members only?
13:12:26 <eneumann> action+ First steps: clinical data standards
13:15:45 <eneumann> Action: First steps: clinical data standards
13:19:09 <eneumann> Jim at meeting now, working on HL7 + CDISC messaging around biomarkers
13:21:03 <eneumann> ... controlled vocabulary challenges around genetic markers and mutations, how to define for researchers and clinicians. Flat reps will not be enough...
13:22:04 <eneumann> ... LOINC codes vs SNOMED, how to reconcile differences and ambiguities.
13:23:47 <eneumann> Jim thinks many vocabularies have a high degree of "good-enough" overlap
13:25:16 <eneumann> Kerstin: need to build up more concepts on bio molecules and observations; can SW help add these concepts over time
13:26:04 <eneumann> Jim: LOINC linear mapping of terms for lab test; how to eventually handle multiple lab tests...
13:29:25 <eneumann> Can we convince the clin stds groups to use RDF-OWL to begin mapping and versioning the vocabs with each other?
13:34:16 <eneumann> Scenarios: Develop one out in more detail, and implement some form of demo around them; could then be shown within pharma orgs as POC
13:36:27 <eneumann> Action: Discuss with Ivan Herman on W3C limited view of DSE activities
13:37:30 <eneumann> Kerstin: better data integration, starting with SDTM : recombinant clinical data ala SW
13:40:34 <eneumann> Jim: handling data and communications with external collaborators
13:44:53 <tslater> Ted: semantic web techniques could play an important role in information flow from clinical to pre-clinical and back.
13:45:55 <eneumann> ... possibly show SDTM may can have better controlled content definitions 
13:49:02 <eneumann> Bo: scenarios -> specific examples
13:49:45 <eneumann> Jim: use cases on specific pain points...
13:50:23 <eneumann> Bo: connect use-cases to an overall larger model
13:52:16 <eneumann> Action: use cases from everyone by next week
13:54:02 <tslater> Action: Ted will talk to colleagues to see who can make it to Amsterdam, esp. Development Informatics colleagues.
13:55:51 <eneumann> Kerstin: Janus is for re-usability of all clinical  data
13:56:31 <eneumann> .. Janus: storage model for clinical data, not just data exchange
13:58:14 <eneumann> Jim: Better data extraction and formatting
13:59:13 <eneumann> Kerstin: regulated and sensitive data, but somehow include provenance and open up for analysis
14:01:54 <eneumann> Can references and annotations be made on top of Janus without contaminating it?
14:04:01 <eneumann> Jim: how to have scientists make use and annotate Janus-based data for translational medicine
14:09:40 <eneumann> Action: Define schedule for DSE conf calls at F2F
14:10:25 <eneumann> rrsagent, make logs public
14:10:40 <eneumann> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:10:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-minutes.html eneumann
14:12:01 <eneumann> rrsagent, bye
14:12:01 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-actions.rdf :
14:12:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: First steps: clinical data standards [1]
14:12:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-15-45
14:12:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Discuss with Ivan Herman on W3C limited view of DSE activities [2]
14:12:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-36-27
14:12:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: use cases from everyone by next week [3]
14:12:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-52-16
14:12:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ted will talk to colleagues to see who can make it to Amsterdam, esp. Development Informatics colleagues. [4]
14:12:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T13-54-02
14:12:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Define schedule for DSE conf calls at F2F [5]
14:12:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/15-hcls-irc#T14-09-40