17:57:49 RRSAgent has joined #umtf 17:57:49 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-umtf-irc 17:57:50 Yes I did. sorry 17:57:59 zakim, this will be umtf 17:57:59 ok, shawn, I see WAI_EOWG(UMTF)2:00PM already started 17:58:11 i'm going to start calling you an adsent minded professor! :) 17:58:17 zakim, who is here? 17:58:17 On the phone I see Wayne_Dick 17:58:18 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn, Wayne 17:58:36 meeting: EOWG UMTF 17:58:45 chair: Wayne Dick 17:59:08 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-umtf/2006Sep/0018.html 17:59:18 regrets: Liam 17:59:19 That is an occupational hazzard. 17:59:30 Present: Shawn, Wayne 18:01:21 +Shawn 18:03:07 +Doyle_Saylor 18:03:23 +Judy 18:03:58 judy has joined #umtf 18:04:36 zakim, who is here? 18:04:36 On the phone I see Wayne_Dick, Shawn, Doyle_Saylor, Judy 18:04:37 On IRC I see judy, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn, Wayne 18:05:59 present+ doyle 18:06:57 scribe: doyle 18:07:03 scribenick: shawn 18:08:27 +Helle_Bjarno 18:08:51 present+ Helle 18:10:07 topic: Background on Work of Task Force to date 18:14:34 topic: Priorities for Work 18:14:34 hbj has joined #umtf 18:15:28 priorities online: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/umtf/priorities 18:23:13 shawn notes that we have weak, rough coverage of promoting web accessibility at http://www.w3.org/WAI/participation.html#promo 18:24:32 Doyle: promoting web accessibility a high priority. talk to someone on bus, in a classroom. 18:28:46 Helle & Shawn: disability advocates etc. not know *web* *accessibility* (just building accessibility, e.g.). also not know issues with other disabilities (e.g., just blind) 18:43:33 Doyle: here also need simpler presentations of the issues, executive summary to educate developers 18:46:28 action: wayne revise current Deliverable 2 based on teleconference discussion, and put it as priority 1 18:52:36 action: wayne check with liam about priorities, and willingness to edit 1st priority doc (note his logo project still seems too big & long term, and thus would be lower priority) 18:56:17 Topic: What Would be in Promoting Web Accessibility Doc? 18:57:41 Doyle: initiate grassroots activites, cities can be working on, get people working on issues locally 18:58:17 Doyle: [within corporation] current EO docs address issues with business. missing straightforward doc for someone advocateing web accessibility 18:59:04 ... a simple version of accessiility issues 18:59:41 ... e.g., online timesheet not accessible 19:03:50 zakim, who's making noise? 19:04:00 judy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Wayne_Dick (18%), Judy (45%), Helle_Bjarno (70%) 19:04:33 zakim, who's muted? 19:04:33 I see no one muted 19:06:35 +Loughborough 19:08:32 present+ william 19:08:46 note that these are in random order, and incomplete 19:08:46 + relate it to other kinds of disability advocacy, so that people can see the parallels, and use cross-over strategies 19:08:46 + intro saying that you can do a lot to impact web accessibility w/out knowing a lot of technical detail 19:08:46 + remind the importance of advocating across different disability needs, and fend off myth that disability needs conflict between different groups 19:08:47 + talk about the range of resources in which advocacy around Web accessibility might be needed 19:08:49 + lay out some different approaches, e.g. a tiered level of awareness, communication w/ organizations w/ inaccessible sites, sharing resources for more info, providing bcase rationale & resources, pushing the need to comply, & eventually additional pushing more if needed 19:08:53 + link to some simple sample materials to use in advocacy 19:08:55 + provide some tips on approaches/discussions that do work (e.g. demonstrating barriers) and that don't work well or might backfire & lose ground 19:08:58 + awareness for advocates about how to find policy resources that in some cases require compliance 19:15:47 action: william look at judy's list and how it relates to what WAI already has 19:24:55 Doyle: also talk about how people can use the web to advocate? 19:27:57 -Judy 19:43:36 action: wayne to get someone to start requirements document, and secondarily an outline for the doc itself based on today's discussions 19:44:05 Topic: Personas 19:44:13 personas online at: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/umtf/personas.html 19:45:20 action: wayne to http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/umtf/personas.html add a link to http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/ and to http://www.w3.org/WAI/redesign/personas just for reference 19:51:46 action: Wayne, Doyle, William, Helle send to email list your input on which are the primary personas for the Promoting/Advocating document 19:51:56 -Doyle_Saylor 19:51:56 -Helle_Bjarno 19:52:00 -Loughborough 19:52:06 zaki, who is here? 19:52:10 zakim, who is here? 19:52:10 On the phone I see Wayne_Dick, Shawn 19:52:11 On IRC I see judy, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn, Wayne 19:55:38 -Shawn 19:55:40 -Wayne_Dick 19:55:41 WAI_EOWG(UMTF)2:00PM has ended 19:55:43 Attendees were Wayne_Dick, Shawn, Doyle_Saylor, Judy, Helle_Bjarno, Loughborough 19:55:56 zakim, make logs world 19:55:56 I don't understand 'make logs world', shawn 19:56:03 rrsagent, make logs world 19:56:08 rrsagent, draft minutes 19:56:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-umtf-minutes.html shawn 20:08:38 shawn has left #umtf 20:13:00 judy has left #umtf 22:25:38 Zakim has left #umtf