IRC log of grddl-wg on 2006-09-13

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14:58:34 [RRSAgent]

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14:58:55 [ericP]

Zakim, who is here?

14:58:56 [Zakim]

sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is

14:58:57 [Zakim]

On IRC I see RRSAgent, ericP, Zakim, briansuda, FabienGandon, chimezie, DanC

14:59:05 [ericP]

zakim, this will be grddl

14:59:05 [Zakim]

ok, ericP; I see SW_GRDDL()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

14:59:19 [Zakim]

SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has now started

14:59:26 [Zakim]

+Chimezie_Ogbuji

14:59:46 [chimezie]

ericP: I believe we do

14:59:49 [Zakim]

+??P10

15:00:01 [ericP]

zakim, ??P10 is me

15:00:01 [Zakim]

+ericP; got it

15:00:33 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

15:00:41 [briansuda]

that's briansuda

15:00:54 [ericP]

zakim, IPcaller is briansuda

15:00:54 [Zakim]

+briansuda; got it

15:01:08 [chimezie]

Zakim, read agenda from http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/homepage/notes/weekly-agenda.html

15:01:08 [Zakim]

working on it, chimezie

15:01:10 [Zakim]

done reading agenda, chimezie

15:01:26 [Zakim]

+??P14

15:01:41 [Zakim]

+FabienGandon

15:02:03 [ericP]

zakim, ??P14 is Harry

15:02:03 [Zakim]

+Harry; got it

15:03:03 [chimezie]

Regrets: danja

15:03:09 [chimezie]

Regrets: BenA

15:03:16 [chimezie]

Regrets: Murray

15:03:31 [chimezie]

Regrets: DanC

15:03:49 [chimezie]

Regrets: Ryager

15:04:57 [chimezie]

Scribe: chimezie

15:05:03 [chimezie]

Zakim, take up item 1

15:05:04 [Zakim]

I see nothing on the agenda

15:05:39 [chimezie]

PROPOSED: Approve previous minutes

15:06:06 [iand]

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15:06:57 [ericP]

http://research.talis.com/2006/grddl-wg/primer.html#introduction

15:07:26 [Zakim]

+ +21717aaaa

15:07:46 [iand]

Zakim, aaaa is iand

15:07:46 [Zakim]

+iand; got it

15:08:10 [chimezie]

RESOLVED: http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/homepage/notes/Sep06-grddl-wg-minutes.htm is approved

15:09:10 [chimezie]

iand: integrated various input into Primer

15:09:37 [chimezie]

briansuda: possibly remove references to SPARQL?

15:10:08 [Zakim]

+Rachel_Yager

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15:11:52 [chimezie]

FabienGandon: no problem with two SPARQL queries in primer. but generally concerned with references to SPARQL

15:13:05 [chimezie]

ericP: is POX (Plain Old XML) a common acronym?

15:14:44 [FabienGandon]

extract from use case is "the Atom Publishing Protocol's use of HTTP and POX (Plain Old XML) as the primary remote messaging mechanism "

15:15:35 [chimezie]

ericP: better to say 'single-purpose XML vocabulary' than POX

15:16:15 [FabienGandon]

+q to propose an RDFa section http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Fabien.Gandon/tmp/grddl/rdfaprimer/PrimerRDFaSection.html

15:18:29 [FabienGandon]

q+ to propose an RDFa section http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Fabien.Gandon/tmp/grddl/rdfaprimer/PrimerRDFaSection.html

15:18:36 [chimezie]

ACTION: iand, Fabien to change wording of POX to 'single-purpose XML vocabulary' or something similar

15:19:51 [chimezie]

Harry: is okay with going with usecase document and primer now and spec later

15:20:52 [FabienGandon]

pointer is http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Fabien.Gandon/tmp/grddl/rdfaprimer/PrimerRDFaSection.html

15:21:16 [chimezie]

Harry: is the output RDF syntax or embedded RDFa?

15:21:32 [chimezie]

FabienGandon: RDFa is the input and RDF comes out

15:22:26 [chimezie]

iand: concerned with length of primer

15:22:46 [chimezie]

iand: concerned about RDFa not being finalized

15:23:15 [iand]

e.g syntax like <link rel="rdf:type" href="[foaf:Person]" />

15:25:08 [chimezie]

Harry: it's in our scope and need to at least mention it (perhaps not in primer)

15:25:17 [chimezie]

iand: rework examples to avoide the moving target

15:26:00 [chimezie]

Harry: table RDFa from primer at least

15:26:15 [chimezie]

FabienGandon: agrees proposes to submit to rdf-in-xhtml

15:28:08 [FabienGandon]

ACTION: Fabien to submit to the RDFa example to rdf-in-xhtml

15:28:19 [chimezie]

ACTION: iand to remove references to RDFa from primer

15:30:23 [chimezie]

FabienGandon: not clear on technical solution to usecase 7

15:30:34 [Zakim]

-Harry

15:31:20 [FabienGandon]

Use case 7: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc43/scenario-gallery.htm#use_case_7

15:33:10 [chimezie]

ericP: 'lifting and lowering' - markup in XML schema to accomodate transformation between XML & RDF

15:33:50 [chimezie]

RDAL: http://www.w3.org/2004/02/03-rdal/

15:35:33 [Zakim]

+??P0

15:36:01 [chimezie]

Zakim, ??P0 is ericP

15:36:01 [Zakim]

+ericP; got it

15:36:06 [chimezie]

Zakim, ??P0 is HarryH

15:36:06 [Zakim]

I already had ??P0 as ericP.a, chimezie

15:40:52 [chimezie]

chimezie: isn't this currently out of scope of the current GRDDL mechanism?

15:43:30 [chimezie]

ericP: mandatory attribute

15:45:32 [chimezie]

HarryH: good practice for RDDL-in-GRDDL but in distant future..

15:47:14 [chimezie]

HarryH: shouldn't include usecase 7

15:49:39 [chimezie]

HarryH: RDFa as output shouldn't be included w/out concensus

15:51:34 [Zakim]

-iand

15:52:41 [chimezie]

Fabien, could you put your ACTION item, I didn't get the details?

15:52:46 [FabienGandon]

ACTION: Fabien to open two threads on the two issues "RDFa production" and "XML Schema technical production"

15:54:02 [FabienGandon]

ACTION: Ryager to review the Use Cases for next week

15:57:15 [Zakim]

-Rachel_Yager

15:57:32 [Zakim]

-Chimezie_Ogbuji

15:57:35 [Zakim]

-ericP.a

15:57:41 [Zakim]

-ericP

15:57:42 [Zakim]

-briansuda

15:57:48 [Zakim]

-FabienGandon

15:57:49 [Zakim]

SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended

15:57:50 [Zakim]

Attendees were Chimezie_Ogbuji, ericP, briansuda, FabienGandon, Harry, +21717aaaa, iand, Rachel_Yager

15:58:17 [chimezie]

okay, let me see if i remember how to wrap this up

15:58:27 [chimezie]

RRSAgent, list actions

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-actions.rdf :

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: iand, Fabien to change wording of POX to 'single-purpose XML vocabulary' or something similar [1]

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-18-36

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Fabien to submit to the RDFa example to rdf-in-xhtml [2]

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-28-08

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: iand to remove references to RDFa from primer [3]

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-28-19

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Fabien to open two threads on the two issues "RDFa production" and "XML Schema technical production" [4]

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-52-46

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ryager to review the Use Cases for next week [5]

15:58:27 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-54-02

15:59:30 [chimezie]

RRSAgent, generate minutes

15:59:30 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-minutes.html chimezie

16:02:35 [chimezie]

rssagent, draft minutes

16:05:06 [FabienGandon]

chimezie, eric, http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-minutes.html is still forbidden can you make it public?

16:07:04 [FabienGandon]

rrsagent, please make these logs public

16:08:09 [chimezie]

ahh.. thx

16:08:38 [chimezie]

Zakim, bye

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16:08:50 [chimezie]

rssagent, bye

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RSSAgent, bye

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