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14:58:55 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
14:58:56 <Zakim> sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is
14:58:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, ericP, Zakim, briansuda, FabienGandon, chimezie, DanC
14:59:05 <ericP> zakim, this will be grddl
14:59:05 <Zakim> ok, ericP; I see SW_GRDDL()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
14:59:19 <Zakim> SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has now started
14:59:26 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji
14:59:46 <chimezie> ericP: I believe we do
14:59:49 <Zakim> +??P10
15:00:01 <ericP> zakim, ??P10 is me
15:00:01 <Zakim> +ericP; got it
15:00:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:00:41 <briansuda> that's briansuda
15:00:54 <ericP> zakim, IPcaller is briansuda 
15:00:54 <Zakim> +briansuda; got it
15:01:08 <chimezie> Zakim, read agenda from http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/homepage/notes/weekly-agenda.html
15:01:08 <Zakim> working on it, chimezie
15:01:10 <Zakim> done reading agenda, chimezie
15:01:26 <Zakim> +??P14
15:01:41 <Zakim> +FabienGandon
15:02:03 <ericP> zakim, ??P14 is Harry
15:02:03 <Zakim> +Harry; got it
15:03:03 <chimezie> Regrets: danja
15:03:09 <chimezie> Regrets: BenA
15:03:16 <chimezie> Regrets: Murray
15:03:31 <chimezie> Regrets: DanC
15:03:49 <chimezie> Regrets: Ryager
15:04:57 <chimezie> Scribe: chimezie
15:05:03 <chimezie> Zakim, take up item 1
15:05:04 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
15:05:39 <chimezie> PROPOSED: Approve previous minutes
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15:06:57 <ericP> http://research.talis.com/2006/grddl-wg/primer.html#introduction
15:07:26 <Zakim> + +21717aaaa
15:07:46 <iand> Zakim, aaaa is iand
15:07:46 <Zakim> +iand; got it
15:08:10 <chimezie> RESOLVED: http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/homepage/notes/Sep06-grddl-wg-minutes.htm is approved
15:09:10 <chimezie> iand: integrated various input into Primer
15:09:37 <chimezie> briansuda: possibly remove references to SPARQL?
15:10:08 <Zakim> +Rachel_Yager
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15:11:52 <chimezie> FabienGandon: no problem with two SPARQL queries in primer.  but generally concerned with references to SPARQL
15:13:05 <chimezie> ericP: is POX (Plain Old XML) a common acronym?
15:14:44 <FabienGandon> extract from use case is "the Atom Publishing Protocol's use of HTTP and POX (Plain Old XML) as the primary remote messaging mechanism "
15:15:35 <chimezie> ericP: better to say 'single-purpose XML vocabulary' than POX
15:16:15 <FabienGandon> +q to propose an RDFa section http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Fabien.Gandon/tmp/grddl/rdfaprimer/PrimerRDFaSection.html
15:18:29 <FabienGandon> q+ to propose an RDFa section http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Fabien.Gandon/tmp/grddl/rdfaprimer/PrimerRDFaSection.html
15:18:36 <chimezie> ACTION: iand, Fabien to change wording of POX to 'single-purpose XML vocabulary' or something similar
15:19:51 <chimezie> Harry: is okay with going with usecase document and primer now and spec later
15:20:52 <FabienGandon> pointer is http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Fabien.Gandon/tmp/grddl/rdfaprimer/PrimerRDFaSection.html
15:21:16 <chimezie> Harry: is the output RDF syntax or embedded RDFa?
15:21:32 <chimezie> FabienGandon: RDFa is the input and RDF comes out
15:22:26 <chimezie> iand: concerned with length of primer
15:22:46 <chimezie> iand: concerned about RDFa not being finalized
15:23:15 <iand> e.g syntax like <link rel="rdf:type" href="[foaf:Person]" />
15:25:08 <chimezie> Harry: it's in our scope and need to at least mention it (perhaps not in primer)
15:25:17 <chimezie> iand: rework examples to avoide the moving target
15:26:00 <chimezie> Harry: table RDFa from primer at least
15:26:15 <chimezie> FabienGandon: agrees proposes to submit to rdf-in-xhtml
15:28:08 <FabienGandon> ACTION: Fabien to submit to the RDFa example to rdf-in-xhtml
15:28:19 <chimezie> ACTION: iand to remove references to RDFa from primer
15:30:23 <chimezie> FabienGandon: not clear on technical solution to usecase 7
15:30:34 <Zakim> -Harry
15:31:20 <FabienGandon> Use case 7: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc43/scenario-gallery.htm#use_case_7
15:33:10 <chimezie> ericP: 'lifting and lowering' - markup in XML schema to accomodate transformation between XML & RDF
15:33:50 <chimezie> RDAL: http://www.w3.org/2004/02/03-rdal/
15:35:33 <Zakim> +??P0
15:36:01 <chimezie> Zakim, ??P0 is ericP
15:36:01 <Zakim> +ericP; got it
15:36:06 <chimezie> Zakim, ??P0 is HarryH
15:36:06 <Zakim> I already had ??P0 as ericP.a, chimezie
15:40:52 <chimezie> chimezie: isn't this currently out of scope of the current GRDDL mechanism?
15:43:30 <chimezie> ericP: mandatory attribute
15:45:32 <chimezie> HarryH: good practice for RDDL-in-GRDDL but in distant future..
15:47:14 <chimezie> HarryH: shouldn't include usecase 7
15:49:39 <chimezie> HarryH: RDFa as output shouldn't be included w/out concensus 
15:51:34 <Zakim> -iand
15:52:41 <chimezie> Fabien, could you put your ACTION item, I didn't get the details?
15:52:46 <FabienGandon> ACTION: Fabien to open two threads on the two issues "RDFa production" and "XML Schema technical production"
15:54:02 <FabienGandon> ACTION: Ryager to review the Use Cases for next week
15:57:15 <Zakim> -Rachel_Yager
15:57:32 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji
15:57:35 <Zakim> -ericP.a
15:57:41 <Zakim> -ericP
15:57:42 <Zakim> -briansuda
15:57:48 <Zakim> -FabienGandon
15:57:49 <Zakim> SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended
15:57:50 <Zakim> Attendees were Chimezie_Ogbuji, ericP, briansuda, FabienGandon, Harry, +21717aaaa, iand, Rachel_Yager
15:58:17 <chimezie> okay, let me see if i remember how to wrap this up
15:58:27 <chimezie> RRSAgent, list actions
15:58:27 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-actions.rdf :
15:58:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: iand, Fabien to change wording of POX to 'single-purpose XML vocabulary' or something similar [1]
15:58:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-18-36
15:58:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Fabien to submit to the RDFa example to rdf-in-xhtml [2]
15:58:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-28-08
15:58:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: iand to remove references to RDFa from primer [3]
15:58:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-28-19
15:58:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Fabien to open two threads on the two issues "RDFa production" and "XML Schema technical production" [4]
15:58:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-52-46
15:58:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ryager to review the Use Cases for next week [5]
15:58:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-irc#T15-54-02
15:59:30 <chimezie> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:59:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-minutes.html chimezie
16:02:35 <chimezie> rssagent, draft minutes
16:05:06 <FabienGandon> chimezie, eric, http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-grddl-wg-minutes.html is still forbidden can you make it public?
16:07:04 <FabienGandon> rrsagent, please make these logs public
16:08:09 <chimezie> ahh.. thx
16:08:38 <chimezie> Zakim, bye
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16:08:50 <chimezie> rssagent, bye
16:09:05 <chimezie> RSSAgent, bye
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