IRC log of tsdtf on 2006-09-12
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-tsdtf-irc
- 12:10:59 [Zakim]
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- 12:11:19 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be TSD TF
- 12:11:19 [Zakim]
- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled near this time, shadi
- 12:11:22 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be TSDTF
- 12:11:22 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 19 minutes
- 12:11:28 [shadi]
- meeting: TSD TF
- 12:11:38 [shadi]
- chair: CarlosV, Christophe
- 12:12:07 [shadi]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Sep/0003.html
- 12:12:28 [shadi]
- agenda+ TCDL final adoption
- 12:12:38 [shadi]
- agenda+ Start of test production phase
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- 12:29:45 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
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- +Shadi
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- +[IPcaller]
- 12:31:50 [shadi]
- zakim, ipcaller is really Shane
- 12:31:50 [Zakim]
- +Shane; got it
- 12:32:05 [carlosV]
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- +Vangelis
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- +CarlosV
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- +??P12
- 12:33:15 [shadi]
- zakim, ?p12 is really CarlosI
- 12:33:15 [Zakim]
- sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named '?p12'
- 12:33:20 [shadi]
- zakim, ? is really CarlosI
- 12:33:20 [Zakim]
- +CarlosI; got it
- 12:33:27 [shadi]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 12:33:27 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Shadi, Shane, Vangelis, CarlosV, CarlosI
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- +Cooper
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- +Tim_Boland
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
- 12:47:15 [Tim]
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- 12:48:14 [shadi]
- agenda?
- 12:49:43 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: need to take decisions for things might need to drop
- 12:50:09 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: 1st one :version number
- 12:50:34 [Vangelis]
- CS: optional element
- 12:50:52 [Vangelis]
- CV: for bentoweb cvs numbering
- 12:51:18 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 12:51:18 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "TCDL final adoption" taken up [from shadi]
- 12:52:26 [Vangelis]
- CV: keep it as optional
- 12:52:41 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Sep/0004.html
- 12:53:01 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: keep min terms
- 12:54:17 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: keep it simple and use simple way to enter data (web form) and keep clear
- 12:54:42 [Vangelis]
- CV: prefer optional and if not needed just keep it out
- 12:55:52 [Vangelis]
- CV: optional and mandatory according to xml schema
- 12:57:36 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: as a compromise keep version element but use cvs numbering (constant value)
- 13:00:34 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: parser can ignore anything, can have what ever additional
- 13:02:01 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: at least more guidance on how to use
- 13:02:37 [Vangelis]
- CS: maybe more specific guidance
- 13:04:34 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: other things even more vital
- 13:05:48 [Vangelis]
- CI: version number public for everyone?
- 13:06:54 [Vangelis]
- CI: if cvs numbering not available for everybody, we need an version element
- 13:08:15 [Zakim]
- -CarlosV
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- +??P0
- 13:08:40 [Vangelis]
- CI: use cvs numbering for internal development and when released communicate it to public
- 13:09:15 [carlosV]
- zakim, ? is really carlosV
- 13:09:15 [Zakim]
- +carlosV; got it
- 13:09:17 [shadi]
- <version>$version</version>
- 13:10:50 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: need to have cvs versioning machine readable: automatically updated
- 13:11:30 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: take major or whole version numbering from cvs and communicate to public
- 13:13:55 [Vangelis]
- Resolution: Have CVS versioning machine readable (variable) and communicate to the public
- 13:14:39 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: Next element for consideration testElement
- 13:15:59 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: how that (refering) worked in bentoweb?
- 13:16:05 [Vangelis]
- CV: no major issue
- 13:17:56 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: seams this raises issues on the dependency of technologies used
- 13:19:46 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: Should we try and see how it will go?
- 13:21:41 [Vangelis]
- Resolution: keep it and give a try. also keep an eye for resource consumption
- 13:21:57 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
- 13:22:38 [Vangelis]
- CS: what about dc:rights ?
- 13:22:57 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: no, this is ok
- 13:23:42 [Vangelis]
- CS: drop dc:contributor and source? other comment ?
- 13:24:54 [Vangelis]
- Resolution: drop dc:contributor and source
- 13:25:29 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: preConditions, i take it bak
- 13:26:18 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: tcdl starts from 1 and earl from 0. propose to earl group start from 1
- 13:28:03 [Vangelis]
- CS: rules element - for bentoweb rule is only one with one or more locations - if it seems you have more than 1 it means you should have more than 1 test cases (for betoweb)
- 13:29:14 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: need to work on that little more
- 13:30:34 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: only need to describe a little better
- 13:31:41 [Vangelis]
- SA: what is the use to cols / rows?
- 13:31:50 [Vangelis]
- CV: human and machine readable
- 13:33:32 [Vangelis]
- CV: continue next week with tcdl - take decisions before call (mailing list)
- 13:33:39 [Zakim]
- -Shane
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- -Shadi
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- -Vangelis
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -CarlosI
- 13:33:53 [Zakim]
- -carlosV
- 13:34:06 [Zakim]
- -Cooper
- 13:34:08 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
- 13:34:09 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Shadi, Shane, Vangelis, CarlosV, CarlosI, Cooper, Tim_Boland, Christophe_Strobbe
- 13:34:38 [shadi]
- zakim, bye
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- 13:34:52 [shadi]
- scribe: Vangelis
- 13:34:55 [shadi]
- scribenick: Vangelis
- 13:35:01 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 13:35:05 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 13:35:05 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
- 13:35:08 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 13:35:13 [shadi]
- rrsagent, bye
- 13:35:13 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items