IRC log of tsdtf on 2006-09-12

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-tsdtf-irc
12:10:59 [Zakim]
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12:11:19 [shadi]
zakim, this will be TSD TF
12:11:19 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled near this time, shadi
12:11:22 [shadi]
zakim, this will be TSDTF
12:11:22 [Zakim]
ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 19 minutes
12:11:28 [shadi]
meeting: TSD TF
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chair: CarlosV, Christophe
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Sep/0003.html
12:12:28 [shadi]
agenda+ TCDL final adoption
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agenda+ Start of test production phase
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12:29:45 [Zakim]
WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
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+Shadi
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+[IPcaller]
12:31:50 [shadi]
zakim, ipcaller is really Shane
12:31:50 [Zakim]
+Shane; got it
12:32:05 [carlosV]
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+Vangelis
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+CarlosV
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+??P12
12:33:15 [shadi]
zakim, ?p12 is really CarlosI
12:33:15 [Zakim]
sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named '?p12'
12:33:20 [shadi]
zakim, ? is really CarlosI
12:33:20 [Zakim]
+CarlosI; got it
12:33:27 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
12:33:27 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Shadi, Shane, Vangelis, CarlosV, CarlosI
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+Cooper
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+Tim_Boland
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+Christophe_Strobbe
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12:48:14 [shadi]
agenda?
12:49:43 [Vangelis]
SAZ: need to take decisions for things might need to drop
12:50:09 [Vangelis]
SAZ: 1st one :version number
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CS: optional element
12:50:52 [Vangelis]
CV: for bentoweb cvs numbering
12:51:18 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 1
12:51:18 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "TCDL final adoption" taken up [from shadi]
12:52:26 [Vangelis]
CV: keep it as optional
12:52:41 [shadi]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Sep/0004.html
12:53:01 [Vangelis]
SAZ: keep min terms
12:54:17 [Vangelis]
SAZ: keep it simple and use simple way to enter data (web form) and keep clear
12:54:42 [Vangelis]
CV: prefer optional and if not needed just keep it out
12:55:52 [Vangelis]
CV: optional and mandatory according to xml schema
12:57:36 [Vangelis]
SAZ: as a compromise keep version element but use cvs numbering (constant value)
13:00:34 [Vangelis]
SAZ: parser can ignore anything, can have what ever additional
13:02:01 [Vangelis]
SAZ: at least more guidance on how to use
13:02:37 [Vangelis]
CS: maybe more specific guidance
13:04:34 [Vangelis]
SAZ: other things even more vital
13:05:48 [Vangelis]
CI: version number public for everyone?
13:06:54 [Vangelis]
CI: if cvs numbering not available for everybody, we need an version element
13:08:15 [Zakim]
-CarlosV
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+??P0
13:08:40 [Vangelis]
CI: use cvs numbering for internal development and when released communicate it to public
13:09:15 [carlosV]
zakim, ? is really carlosV
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+carlosV; got it
13:09:17 [shadi]
<version>$version</version>
13:10:50 [Vangelis]
SAZ: need to have cvs versioning machine readable: automatically updated
13:11:30 [Vangelis]
SAZ: take major or whole version numbering from cvs and communicate to public
13:13:55 [Vangelis]
Resolution: Have CVS versioning machine readable (variable) and communicate to the public
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SAZ: Next element for consideration testElement
13:15:59 [Vangelis]
SAZ: how that (refering) worked in bentoweb?
13:16:05 [Vangelis]
CV: no major issue
13:17:56 [Vangelis]
SAZ: seams this raises issues on the dependency of technologies used
13:19:46 [Vangelis]
SAZ: Should we try and see how it will go?
13:21:41 [Vangelis]
Resolution: keep it and give a try. also keep an eye for resource consumption
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-Tim_Boland
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CS: what about dc:rights ?
13:22:57 [Vangelis]
SAZ: no, this is ok
13:23:42 [Vangelis]
CS: drop dc:contributor and source? other comment ?
13:24:54 [Vangelis]
Resolution: drop dc:contributor and source
13:25:29 [Vangelis]
SAZ: preConditions, i take it bak
13:26:18 [Vangelis]
SAZ: tcdl starts from 1 and earl from 0. propose to earl group start from 1
13:28:03 [Vangelis]
CS: rules element - for bentoweb rule is only one with one or more locations - if it seems you have more than 1 it means you should have more than 1 test cases (for betoweb)
13:29:14 [Vangelis]
SAZ: need to work on that little more
13:30:34 [Vangelis]
SAZ: only need to describe a little better
13:31:41 [Vangelis]
SA: what is the use to cols / rows?
13:31:50 [Vangelis]
CV: human and machine readable
13:33:32 [Vangelis]
CV: continue next week with tcdl - take decisions before call (mailing list)
13:33:39 [Zakim]
-Shane
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-Shadi
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-Vangelis
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-Christophe_Strobbe
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-CarlosI
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-carlosV
13:34:06 [Zakim]
-Cooper
13:34:08 [Zakim]
WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
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Attendees were Shadi, Shane, Vangelis, CarlosV, CarlosI, Cooper, Tim_Boland, Christophe_Strobbe
13:34:38 [shadi]
zakim, bye
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scribe: Vangelis
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scribenick: Vangelis
13:35:01 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
13:35:05 [shadi]
rrsagent, make minutes
13:35:05 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
13:35:08 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
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rrsagent, bye
13:35:13 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items