IRC log of ws-desc on 2006-09-07

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-irc
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14:59:34 [TonyR]
zakim, this is desc
14:59:34 [Zakim]
ok, TonyR; that matches WS_DescWG()11:00AM
14:59:40 [Jonathan]
RRSAgent, set log world
14:59:50 [TonyR]
zakim, who is on the phone?
14:59:50 [Zakim]
On the phone I see ??P7
14:59:56 [TonyR]
zakim, ?? is me
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+TonyR; got it
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+Gilbert_Pilz
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+??P14
15:00:55 [Jonathan]
Zakim, ?? is Jonathan
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+Jonathan; got it
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+Vivek_Pandey
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+??P20
15:03:07 [Jonathan]
Zakim, ?? is Allen
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+Allen; got it
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zakim, who's on the phone?
15:03:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see TonyR, Gilbert_Pilz, Jonathan, Vivek_Pandey, Allen
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+Canon
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That help?
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Scribe :youenn
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Scribe: Youenn
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Topic: Minutes
15:08:56 [Jonathan]
Approved
15:11:26 [jjm]
Topic: Future telcons
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14 Sep: Features at risk
15:12:35 [jjm]
Refresh our CR in Septembre (not back to CR again)
15:12:48 [jjm]
28 Sep: RDF mapping issues
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Get that document out of CR
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Scribe: jjm
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+Plh
15:14:01 [jjm]
Marsh: features at risk: F&P, unused MEPs, etc.
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Topic: CR44
15:17:21 [jjm]
No news from Roberto. Still officially closed. Will reopen only if Roberto provides new information.
15:17:26 [jjm]
Topic: CR55
15:20:50 [Jonathan]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006Sep/0008.html
15:23:09 [jjm]
Marsh: John Kaputin provided a proposal
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Marsh: then discussion with JJM
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JJM: after discussion, he proposed to move the text to a separate "Selection" section
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JJM: which seems good to me
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15:25:37 [Jonathan]
Proposal is:
15:25:46 [jjm]
Tony: what about "empty" or "none"?
15:25:58 [jjm]
JJM: I raised the issue but don't know the answer
15:26:01 [Jonathan]
1) Message 0008 + "Otherwise none" after each bullet list.
15:26:09 [jjm]
Tony: none seems sensible
15:26:20 [Jonathan]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006Sep/0004.html
15:27:01 [Jonathan]
2) Message 0004 - "If this property is not present ..." on last two bullets.
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15:27:22 [jjm]
JJM: read "-" above as minus
15:27:32 [charlton]
"the end of the b"
15:29:57 [jjm]
Closed with above resolution
15:30:02 [jjm]
Topic: CR22
15:30:49 [jjm]
Wait until Arthur and Roberto are back
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Topic: CR53
15:31:04 [jjm]
Wait for Philippe to complete his AI
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Topic: CR69
15:31:37 [jjm]
MEPs out of other MEPs
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Marsh: Theoretical
15:32:18 [jjm]
Close with no action
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Topic: CR52
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Issue 54
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Marsh: wrote back to the commentator 2 months to indicate we're into CR and cannot handle this issue, no response since
15:34:46 [jjm]
Close with no action
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Topic: CR54
15:35:33 [jjm]
Philippe: similar, no response from commentator
15:35:47 [jjm]
Close with no action
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Topic: CR45
15:36:20 [jjm]
Skip, action has not been done
15:36:26 [jjm]
Topic: CR59
15:39:07 [jjm]
Marsh: Add that this attribute is on the Binding Operation. Editorial in nature
15:40:16 [jjm]
Implement above resolution
15:40:23 [jjm]
Topic: CR61
15:41:08 [jjm]
Approve suggested editorial fix
15:41:46 [jjm]
Topic: CR62
15:44:00 [jjm]
Philippe: Feature example, so maybe skip until we decide about F&P
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Skip
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Topic: CR63
15:45:07 [jjm]
Marsh: should be fairly obvious we're not changing the way namespaces work
15:45:44 [jjm]
Tony: s/cut and paste/conceptually/ ?
15:45:50 [jjm]
Marsh: sounds good
15:46:13 [jjm]
Marsh: +s/embedding/
15:46:34 [plh]
Tony: s/simply //conceptually cutting and pasting
15:47:48 [jjm]
Marsh: 1) close with no action; 2) replace simply w/ conceptually; 3) s/c&p/embedding/
15:48:16 [jjm]
Tony: don't like 3, people already know c&p
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Marsh: 4) s/^/Conceptually/
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Resolution: Implement option 4
15:51:08 [youenn]
Topic: CR66
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plh: why having the first sentence in 2.15.1 ?
15:52:50 [Jonathan]
test?
15:55:40 [Zakim]
+Charlton_Barreto
15:55:52 [youenn]
Marsh: an endpoint component is never refered from the WSDL.
15:56:40 [youenn]
plh: then we can remove the sentence.
15:57:11 [youenn]
RESOLUTION: Close this issue by removing the sentence in 2.15.1
15:57:22 [Jonathan]
Remove "they cannot be referred to by QName"
15:57:48 [plh]
Endpoint components are local to a given Service component (see A.2 Fragment Identifiers).
15:58:44 [youenn]
Topic: CR68
15:59:04 [youenn]
Marsh: editorial issue
16:00:39 [youenn]
Marsh: two issues there
16:02:48 [youenn]
Marsh: no objection to fix the specification according the recommendations
16:03:16 [Zakim]
-Allen
16:03:39 [youenn]
Resolution: Accept the proposal to clarify 2.2.1, 2.2.2 and 2.2.3
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Topic: CR77
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See http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-irc#T16-03-56
16:12:54 [Zakim]
-Gilbert_Pilz
16:14:38 [youenn]
Marsh: propose to close this issue by adding a slash to the soap1.1 binding http uri and do a consistency check in the primer and test-suite to have soap 1.2/1.1 binding http uris with the slash
16:14:45 [youenn]
No objection
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+Gilbert_Pilz
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-Gilbert_Pilz
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Topic: CR78
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+Gilbert_Pilz
16:17:44 [youenn]
Marsh: this is a request to constraint the message element type and the message element xsi:type if any, especially in the case of very general schema elements
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16:28:49 [youenn]
Marsh: this use case does not seem to appeal to many people
16:30:52 [Jonathan]
ACTION: Propose workarounds for CR78.
16:35:47 [Zakim]
-Plh
16:35:50 [Zakim]
-Canon
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-Jonathan
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-Vivek_Pandey
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-Gilbert_Pilz
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-TonyR
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-Charlton_Barreto
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WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Gilbert_Pilz, TonyR, Jonathan, Vivek_Pandey, Allen, Canon, Plh, Charlton_Barreto
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
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16:36:32 [Jonathan]
Meeting: WS Description WG telcon
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
17:10:20 [plh]
zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Propose workarounds for CR78. [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-irc#T16-30-52