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14:59:34 <TonyR> zakim, this is desc
14:59:34 <Zakim> ok, TonyR; that matches WS_DescWG()11:00AM
14:59:40 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, set log world
14:59:50 <TonyR> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:59:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P7
14:59:56 <TonyR> zakim, ?? is me
14:59:56 <Zakim> +TonyR; got it
15:00:05 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
15:00:37 <Zakim> +??P14
15:00:55 <Jonathan> Zakim, ?? is Jonathan
15:00:55 <Zakim> +Jonathan; got it
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15:01:51 <Zakim> +Vivek_Pandey
15:02:52 <Zakim> +??P20
15:03:07 <Jonathan> Zakim, ?? is Allen
15:03:07 <Zakim> +Allen; got it
15:03:32 <Jonathan> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:03:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see TonyR, Gilbert_Pilz, Jonathan, Vivek_Pandey, Allen
15:05:02 <Zakim> +Canon
15:05:23 <Jonathan> That help?
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15:08:11 <Jonathan> Scribe :youenn
15:08:16 <Jonathan> Scribe: Youenn
15:08:51 <Jonathan> Topic: Minutes 
15:08:56 <Jonathan> Approved
15:11:26 <jjm> Topic: Future telcons
15:11:43 <jjm> 14 Sep: Features at risk
15:12:35 <jjm> Refresh our CR in Septembre (not back to CR again)
15:12:48 <jjm> 28 Sep: RDF mapping issues
15:12:57 <jjm> Get that document out of CR
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15:13:06 <jjm> Scribe: jjm
15:13:15 <Zakim> +Plh
15:14:01 <jjm> Marsh: features at risk: F&P, unused MEPs, etc.
15:14:20 <jjm> Topic: CR44
15:17:21 <jjm> No news from Roberto. Still officially closed. Will reopen only if Roberto provides new information.
15:17:26 <jjm> Topic: CR55
15:20:50 <Jonathan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006Sep/0008.html
15:23:09 <jjm> Marsh: John Kaputin provided a proposal
15:23:16 <jjm> Marsh: then discussion with JJM
15:23:43 <jjm> JJM: after discussion, he proposed to move the text to a separate "Selection" section
15:23:50 <jjm> JJM: which seems good to me
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15:25:37 <Jonathan> Proposal is:
15:25:46 <jjm> Tony: what about "empty" or "none"?
15:25:58 <jjm> JJM: I raised the issue but don't know the answer
15:26:01 <Jonathan> 1) Message 0008 + "Otherwise none" after each bullet list.
15:26:09 <jjm> Tony: none seems sensible
15:26:20 <Jonathan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006Sep/0004.html
15:27:01 <Jonathan> 2) Message 0004 - "If this property is not present ..." on last two bullets.
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15:27:22 <jjm> JJM: read "-" above as minus
15:27:32 <charlton> "the end of the b"
15:29:57 <jjm> Closed with above resolution
15:30:02 <jjm> Topic: CR22
15:30:49 <jjm> Wait until Arthur and Roberto are back
15:30:56 <jjm> Topic: CR53
15:31:04 <jjm> Wait for Philippe to complete his AI
15:31:17 <jjm> Topic: CR69
15:31:37 <jjm> MEPs out of other MEPs
15:31:47 <jjm> Marsh: Theoretical
15:32:18 <jjm> Close with no action
15:33:00 <jjm> Topic: CR52
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15:34:35 <youenn> Issue 54
15:34:43 <jjm> Marsh: wrote back to the commentator 2 months to indicate we're into CR and cannot handle this issue, no response since
15:34:46 <jjm> Close with no action
15:34:55 <jjm> Topic: CR54
15:35:33 <jjm> Philippe: similar, no response from commentator
15:35:47 <jjm> Close with no action
15:36:15 <jjm> Topic: CR45
15:36:20 <jjm> Skip, action has not been done
15:36:26 <jjm> Topic: CR59
15:39:07 <jjm> Marsh: Add that this attribute is on the Binding Operation. Editorial in nature
15:40:16 <jjm> Implement above resolution
15:40:23 <jjm> Topic: CR61
15:41:08 <jjm> Approve suggested editorial fix
15:41:46 <jjm> Topic: CR62
15:44:00 <jjm> Philippe: Feature example, so maybe skip until we decide about F&P
15:44:04 <jjm> Skip
15:44:09 <jjm> Topic: CR63
15:45:07 <jjm> Marsh: should be fairly obvious we're not changing the way namespaces work
15:45:44 <jjm> Tony: s/cut and paste/conceptually/ ?
15:45:50 <jjm> Marsh: sounds good
15:46:13 <jjm> Marsh: +s/embedding/
15:46:34 <plh> Tony: s/simply //conceptually cutting and pasting
15:47:48 <jjm> Marsh: 1) close with no action; 2) replace simply w/ conceptually; 3) s/c&p/embedding/
15:48:16 <jjm> Tony: don't like 3, people already know c&p
15:49:07 <jjm> Marsh: 4) s/^/Conceptually/
15:49:49 <jjm> Resolution: Implement option 4
15:51:08 <youenn> Topic: CR66
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15:52:46 <youenn> plh: why having the first sentence in 2.15.1 ?
15:52:50 <Jonathan> test?
15:55:40 <Zakim> +Charlton_Barreto
15:55:52 <youenn> Marsh: an endpoint component is never refered from the WSDL.
15:56:40 <youenn> plh: then we can remove the sentence.
15:57:11 <youenn> RESOLUTION: Close this issue by removing the sentence in 2.15.1
15:57:22 <Jonathan> Remove "they cannot be referred to by QName"
15:57:48 <plh> Endpoint components are local to a given Service component (see A.2 Fragment Identifiers).
15:58:44 <youenn> Topic: CR68
15:59:04 <youenn> Marsh: editorial issue
16:00:39 <youenn> Marsh: two issues there
16:02:48 <youenn> Marsh: no objection to fix the specification according the recommendations
16:03:16 <Zakim> -Allen
16:03:39 <youenn> Resolution: Accept the proposal to clarify 2.2.1, 2.2.2 and 2.2.3
16:03:56 <youenn> Topic: CR77
16:09:46 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-irc#T16-03-56
16:12:54 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
16:14:38 <youenn> Marsh: propose to close this issue by adding a slash to the soap1.1 binding http uri and do a consistency check in the primer and test-suite to have soap 1.2/1.1 binding http uris with the slash
16:14:45 <youenn> No objection
16:15:10 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
16:15:19 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
16:15:22 <youenn> Topic: CR78
16:15:49 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
16:17:44 <youenn> Marsh: this is a request to constraint the message element type and the message element xsi:type if any, especially in the case of very general schema elements
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16:28:49 <youenn> Marsh: this use case does not seem to appeal to many people
16:30:52 <Jonathan> ACTION: Propose workarounds for CR78.
16:35:47 <Zakim> -Plh
16:35:50 <Zakim> -Canon
16:35:51 <Zakim> -Jonathan
16:35:51 <Zakim> -Vivek_Pandey
16:35:54 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
16:35:55 <Zakim> -TonyR
16:35:55 <Zakim> -Charlton_Barreto
16:35:56 <Zakim> WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended
16:35:57 <Zakim> Attendees were Gilbert_Pilz, TonyR, Jonathan, Vivek_Pandey, Allen, Canon, Plh, Charlton_Barreto
16:36:05 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:36:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
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16:36:32 <Jonathan> Meeting: WS Description WG telcon
16:36:51 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:36:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
17:10:20 <plh> zakim, bye
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17:10:33 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-actions.rdf :
17:10:33 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Propose workarounds for CR78. [1]
17:10:33 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-ws-desc-irc#T16-30-52