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<scribe> scribe: Felix
<scribe> scribeNick: felix-boulder
Sebastian? are you ready? We could already start
<scribe> done yesterday are http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-i18nits-minutes.html
Yves: Christian had a lots of
trouble editing the ODD file
... we thought of what to do in the future, if Sebastian and
Felix may not be here
... should we move to xmlspec for that case
Sebastian: it would leave the
problem of how to generate the example schemas
... it would be very simple, the intermediate xmlspec would be
the master
... and the generated schemas would have to be adopted
manually
... the generated schemas have embedded comments which are
derived automatically currently
... these would have to be adopted manually
... more difficult: if an content model changes, it has to be
changed in three different places
... an alternative would be to say: we throw away e.g. the
DTD
Yves: today we don't have todo anything
Yves: Christian went through
these changes, but he could net enter most of them
... since he was not able to do anything with the ODD
Felix: an ANT script might be helpful
Sebastian: you should set up Yves to do the generation
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to create an ANT task for spec generation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
Yves: we might not have enough time to implement all proposals
Yves: we looked at the table in
sec. 6.1
... that lists the defaults
http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-i18nits-minutes.html#item51
(Yves explains the proposal in the /2006/09/06 minutes)
(Yves describes the case for localization notes)
Sebastian: no problem with
breaking up the table
... but I want to come back to the edited text
Richard: I see no problem, but also need the edited version
Yves: we will do that today and other lot of editing
Yves: I notice you could have
different types of information in the localization notes:
... a reference, or other info
... Felix said: you should override the whole data category, no
matter what information existed before
... so you would take out all existing information
... e.g. if you have a global locNote with an "alert"
... and you ovveride it with a local locNoteRef
... the alert would be overriden, since the local default is
"description"
... that would be the same for e.g. terminology
... does that make sense for you?
Sebastian: that should be
clarified
... it is not a huge burden
... are the talking about more than two bits of information
Yves: no
Sebastian: where would you say that?
Yves: at a place where we talk
about inheritance
... we would need an example to clarify that as well
Sebastian: an example showing the
repetition of the apparently redundant information would be
good
... so to say: a data category is atomic, you express the whole
thing or not
Felix: how about an example with the table?
Yves: to demonstrate inheritance,
overriding and defaults
... in sec. 6.1
<scribe> ACTION: Yves and Felix to create an example for sec. 6.1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/07-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006JulSep/0128.html
Yves: on http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3496
... Christian did some changes, overs he did not
... we will try to do all changes, but we are not sure if we
have the time to do everything
... on http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3509
... this is about restructuring the document
... again we try to do as much as possible
Richard: I hope that you are able to do 3509
Felix: would it be possible for you to do this in xmlspec?
Richard: quite possible
(discussion on what to use)
Yves: let's see what we can do today and tomorrow
Yves: I will be off the whole of
November
... we have to take that into account if we make an
extension
summary is, we need to make sure that everybody in the WG is happy with the changes, and does not regard anything as substantive
we need to have that on the agenda in the next weeks
we have the CR call, after that testing
Yves: we have to think this out, discuss that tomorrow
Yves: same time as yesterday
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