IRC log of mmsem on 2006-08-31
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-irc
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- raphael has changed the topic to: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 31-08-2006
- 15:48:11 [giovannit]
- re all
- 15:48:17 [raphael]
- hi Giovanni
- 15:48:23 [JeffP]
- Hi Giovanni
- 15:49:20 [giovannit]
- Christian is not here today.. he regrets of being having a jolly great time on vacation in spain
- 15:51:42 [raphael]
- zakim, what conferences?
- 15:51:42 [Zakim]
- I see INC_MMSEM()12:00PM, GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, XML_PMWG()11:00AM active
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- also scheduled at this time are SYMM_TTWG()12:00PM, WS_DescWG()11:00AM, I18N_Core_WG(WS-I18N)11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM, DIG_TAMI()11:00AM
- 15:51:58 [raphael]
- zakim, this conference is INC_MMSEM
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- ok, raphael; that matches INC_MMSEM()12:00PM
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- Meeting: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 31-08-2006
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- Chair: JeffP
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- Scribe: raphael
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- ScribeNick: raphael
- 15:53:08 [giovannit]
- (cheering crowd noieses at each name) :-)
- 15:53:23 [giovannit]
- sorry i am so new at these telecons i findit all very exciting (still?)
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- :-)
- 15:54:36 [Zakim]
- + +30231046aaaa
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- 15:55:06 [mhausenblas]
- hi there ...
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- + +43.316.876.aabb
- 15:55:47 [raphael]
- zakim +30231046aaaa is Stamatia
- 15:56:39 [raphael]
- zakim, +30231046aaaa is Stamatia
- 15:56:39 [Zakim]
- +Stamatia; got it
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- zakim, +43.316.876.aabb is mhausenblas
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- +mhausenblas; got it
- 15:57:05 [raphael]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:57:05 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see [CWI], Stamatia, mhausenblas
- 15:57:06 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see IoannisPratikakis, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit
- 15:57:09 [mhausenblas]
- zakim this is mhausenblas
- 15:57:14 [raphael]
- zakim, [CWI] is raphael
- 15:57:14 [Zakim]
- +raphael; got it
- 15:57:45 [mhausenblas]
- woh is here
- 15:57:56 [mhausenblas]
- who is here
- 15:58:08 [mhausenblas]
- zakim who is here
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- 15:58:46 [mhausenblas]
- zakim, who is here, please ?
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- + +49.261.287.aacc
- 15:58:48 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, mhausenblas.
- 15:59:04 [pasquale]
- hi all, ciao ;-)
- 15:59:12 [mhausenblas]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:59:12 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, +49.261.287.aacc
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- On IRC I see pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit
- 15:59:17 [raphael]
- zakim, +49.261.287.aacc is Thomas
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- +Thomas; got it
- 15:59:26 [raphael]
- hi pasquale
- 15:59:36 [pasquale]
- hi raphael
- 15:59:46 [Zakim]
- +??P0
- 16:00:00 [JeffP]
- zakim, ??P0 is me
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- +JeffP; got it
- 16:00:17 [giovannit]
- me and w3c conference system dont get along too well
- 16:00:38 [giovannit]
- or its skype
- 16:00:50 [raphael]
- you're only on IRC giovani ?
- 16:00:51 [mhausenblas]
- zakim, +49.316.876.1191 us mhausenblas
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- I don't understand '+49.316.876.1191 us mhausenblas', mhausenblas
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- i am joining
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- thanks to the operator
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen
- 16:01:39 [raphael]
- zakim, +[IPcaller] is Giovanni
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- sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is Giovanni
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- +Giovanni; got it
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- zakim, Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen is GeorgeAnadiotis
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- +GeorgeAnadiotis; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis
- 16:02:18 [franz]
- hi, its me, thomas (franz is my last name)
- 16:02:19 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see anadiotis, franz, pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit
- 16:02:49 [Zakim]
- +??P8
- 16:03:03 [raphael]
- zakim, ??P8 is Melli
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- +Melli; got it
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- Regrets: Jacco, Chris, Patrizia Asirelli, Massimo Martinelli, Ovidio Salvetti
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- + +681302aadd
- 16:05:08 [raphael]
- zakim, +681302aadd is Thierry
- 16:05:08 [Zakim]
- +Thierry; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
- 16:05:39 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry
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- On IRC I see stamatia, cgi-irc, anadiotis, franz, pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit
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- +[IPcaller]
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- Topic: Admin
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- zakim, [IPCaller] is SusanneBoll
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- +SusanneBoll; got it
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- PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 20 July 2006 telecon: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html ACCEPTED
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- Agenda amendments: talk about the 2 deliverables
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- Agenda amendments: date for the 2nd F2F
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- PROPOSED next telecon 14 September 2006 ACCEPTED
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- Topic: LIAISON (SWBPD)
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- 16:12:18 [mhausenblas]
- zakim, who's here?
- 16:12:18 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry, SusanneBoll
- 16:12:20 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see paul-thierry, mhausenblas, stamatia, cgi-irc, anadiotis, franz, pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit
- 16:12:28 [JeffP]
- Jeff: I will be travelling on Sept 14, but I think Raphael can manage
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- Issue, the document "Image annotation on the Semantic
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- Web"
- 16:12:54 [VassilisT]
- Hi all
- 16:12:58 [raphael]
- should be finished by Sept 1st
- 16:13:06 [raphael]
- hi Vassilis
- 16:13:14 [pasquale]
- hi Vassilis
- 16:13:18 [VassilisT]
- I will follow the meeting only by irc unfirtunatelly
- 16:13:20 [JeffP]
- Hi Vassilis, are you going to join the phone as well?
- 16:13:50 [anadiotis]
- hi Vassili
- 16:14:41 [giovannit]
- is the SWBP group closing sept 1 then?
- 16:14:45 [giovannit]
- is it continuing somehow?
- 16:16:29 [raphael]
- ACTION: Yannis to report back to the group about the outcome of the
- 16:16:29 [raphael]
- MPEG7 liason attempts after a visit of ITI in Austria [recorded in
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- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01]
- 16:20:56 [giovannit]
- jeff , very interesting indeed! any pointer?
- 16:22:11 [JeffP]
- giovannit, it is not online yet, will send to the mailing list soon
- 16:22:28 [JeffP]
- it is about RDFS(FA), just for the record
- 16:22:30 [raphael]
- Topic: XG Updates
- 16:22:58 [JeffP]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Aug/0000.html
- 16:23:49 [raphael]
- Music Use Case:
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- Giovani: how to identify tracks, songs
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- ... Marie is listening a song and would like to find "similar" songs
- 16:28:28 [raphael]
- Identifying files using MD5 ? MPEG-7 low level features ?
- 16:30:48 [raphael]
- Michael: separate the MPEG-7 (profile) and RDF representations
- 16:31:31 [raphael]
- ACTION: Thierry to write up limitations of MPEG-7 description schemes
- 16:31:53 [giovannit]
- yes, lirics! i keep forgetting them sorry :-(
- 16:32:52 [raphael]
- Thierry, not the good place. It is a more general problem
- 16:33:17 [raphael]
- Thierry: current work for aligning audio and text in music
- 16:34:05 [raphael]
- Giovani: include lyrics
- 16:34:17 [mhausenblas]
- update to music use case /me talking about http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm#E12E5
- 16:35:07 [raphael]
- ID3 tags in RDF ?
- 16:35:34 [raphael]
- Tagging Use Case:
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- george: EU project mentioned by Thomas (TAGORA ?)
- 16:36:57 [raphael]
- thomas, can you write name, URL of this project ?
- 16:37:10 [susanne]
- http://www.tagora-project.eu/
- 16:39:12 [raphael]
- Focus on interoperability issue
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- Susanne: strong relationship with this use case with the use case "Semantics from Multimedia Authoring"
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- News Use case:
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- Problems: many standards are used
- 16:43:34 [JeffP]
- zakim, who is talking?
- 16:43:47 [Zakim]
- JeffP, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Stamatia (4%), Thomas (56%), SusanneBoll (60%), mhausenblas (42%), Thierry (13%)
- 16:44:07 [raphael]
- zakim, mute SusanneBoll
- 16:44:07 [Zakim]
- SusanneBoll should now be muted
- 16:44:07 [JeffP]
- zakim, who is talking?
- 16:44:13 [raphael]
- zakim, mute mhausenblas
- 16:44:13 [Zakim]
- mhausenblas should now be muted
- 16:44:19 [Zakim]
- JeffP, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JeffP (19%), Stamatia (20%)
- 16:45:36 [raphael]
- Low level feature extraction Use case
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- IoannisPratikakis
- 16:45:52 [raphael]
- ?
- 16:46:03 [mhausenblas]
- am I still muted?
- 16:46:25 [raphael]
- yes
- 16:46:32 [raphael]
- zakim, unmute mhausenblas
- 16:46:32 [Zakim]
- mhausenblas should no longer be muted
- 16:46:37 [IoannisPratikakis]
- there is a question whether the two cases will be fused
- 16:46:38 [raphael]
- you were too noisy
- 16:46:40 [raphael]
- Bio-medical Image Use Case
- 16:47:41 [raphael]
- Melli: no RDF representation of SNOMED yet
- 16:48:04 [raphael]
- ... interoperability for describing the content of the images
- 16:48:19 [raphael]
- though correspondance between medical ontologies
- 16:48:26 [raphael]
- MESH, SNOMED, etc.
- 16:48:34 [mhausenblas]
- thanks raphael, i'll try to breath more quiet ;)
- 16:51:03 [raphael]
- Semantics from Multimedia Authoring use case:
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- zakim, unmute SuzanneBoll
- 16:51:18 [Zakim]
- sorry, raphael, I do not see a party named 'SuzanneBoll'
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- zakim, unmute SusanneBoll
- 16:51:20 [Zakim]
- SusanneBoll should no longer be muted
- 16:55:00 [raphael]
- linked the 2 use cases explicitely
- 16:55:37 [raphael]
- MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use case
- 16:56:46 [raphael]
- Various way to express the same thing in MPEG-7
- 16:56:55 [raphael]
- Michael will work on it also
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- example ?
- 16:58:33 [raphael]
- Stamatia: yes we can provide some
- 16:58:39 [giovannit]
- as far as audio is concerned we addressed the syntactic problems with the mpeg-7audioDB, which basically normalizes different descriptionsions (at least tries to)
- 16:59:09 [raphael]
- Topic: Future Meetings
- 17:01:23 [raphael]
- Proposal for F2F number 2: 8-9 of December ?
- 17:02:58 [cgi-irc]
- I need to leave - thanks all. - Melli
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- -Melli
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- -Giovanni
- 17:03:19 [giovannit]
- ops
- 17:04:12 [giovannit]
- sorry got disconnected
- 17:05:10 [raphael]
- Jeff: ALL use the mailling list and the wiki
- 17:05:18 [mhausenblas]
- ok bye ... see U all @ 2006/09/14
- 17:05:24 [Zakim]
- -Thierry
- 17:05:25 [raphael]
- ACTION: ALL to update their wiki pages
- 17:05:26 [Zakim]
- -Thomas
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- -Stamatia
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- -GeorgeAnadiotis
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- -SusanneBoll
- 17:05:33 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
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- -raphael
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- -JeffP
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- -mhausenblas
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- INC_MMSEM()12:00PM has ended
- 17:05:43 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make the minutes public
- 17:05:43 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes public', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:05:44 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Stamatia, mhausenblas, raphael, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry, SusanneBoll
- 17:06:34 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, generate minutes
- 17:06:34 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
- 17:07:06 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, create minutes
- 17:07:06 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
- 17:07:32 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make the minutes public
- 17:07:32 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes public', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:08:45 [pasquale]
- hi all, bye
- 17:12:54 [raphael]
- RRSagent, make these logs public
- 17:13:10 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, generate minutes
- 17:13:10 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
- 17:13:28 [raphael]
- RRSagent, make these logs public
- 17:13:36 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make the minutes public
- 17:13:36 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes public', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:24:49 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make the minutes visible
- 17:24:49 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes visible', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:24:55 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make the logs visible
- 17:24:55 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the logs visible', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:24:59 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make logs visible
- 17:25:08 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
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