15:47:28 RRSAgent has joined #mmsem 15:47:28 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-irc 15:47:56 raphael has changed the topic to: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 31-08-2006 15:48:11 re all 15:48:17 hi Giovanni 15:48:23 Hi Giovanni 15:49:20 Christian is not here today.. he regrets of being having a jolly great time on vacation in spain 15:51:42 zakim, what conferences? 15:51:42 I see INC_MMSEM()12:00PM, GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, XML_PMWG()11:00AM active 15:51:43 also scheduled at this time are SYMM_TTWG()12:00PM, WS_DescWG()11:00AM, I18N_Core_WG(WS-I18N)11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM, DIG_TAMI()11:00AM 15:51:58 zakim, this conference is INC_MMSEM 15:51:58 ok, raphael; that matches INC_MMSEM()12:00PM 15:52:22 Meeting: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 31-08-2006 15:52:31 Chair: JeffP 15:52:40 Scribe: raphael 15:52:49 ScribeNick: raphael 15:53:08 (cheering crowd noieses at each name) :-) 15:53:23 sorry i am so new at these telecons i findit all very exciting (still?) 15:53:26 :-) 15:54:36 + +30231046aaaa 15:54:45 mhausenblas has joined #mmsem 15:55:06 hi there ... 15:55:34 + +43.316.876.aabb 15:55:47 zakim +30231046aaaa is Stamatia 15:56:39 zakim, +30231046aaaa is Stamatia 15:56:39 +Stamatia; got it 15:56:54 IoannisPratikakis has joined #mmsem 15:56:54 zakim, +43.316.876.aabb is mhausenblas 15:56:54 +mhausenblas; got it 15:57:05 zakim, who is here? 15:57:05 On the phone I see [CWI], Stamatia, mhausenblas 15:57:06 On IRC I see IoannisPratikakis, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit 15:57:09 zakim this is mhausenblas 15:57:14 zakim, [CWI] is raphael 15:57:14 +raphael; got it 15:57:45 woh is here 15:57:56 who is here 15:58:08 zakim who is here 15:58:12 pasquale has joined #mmsem 15:58:46 zakim, who is here, please ? 15:58:47 + +49.261.287.aacc 15:58:48 I don't understand your question, mhausenblas. 15:59:04 hi all, ciao ;-) 15:59:12 zakim, who is here? 15:59:12 On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, +49.261.287.aacc 15:59:14 On IRC I see pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit 15:59:17 zakim, +49.261.287.aacc is Thomas 15:59:17 +Thomas; got it 15:59:26 hi pasquale 15:59:36 hi raphael 15:59:46 +??P0 16:00:00 zakim, ??P0 is me 16:00:00 +JeffP; got it 16:00:17 me and w3c conference system dont get along too well 16:00:38 or its skype 16:00:50 you're only on IRC giovani ? 16:00:51 zakim, +49.316.876.1191 us mhausenblas 16:00:51 I don't understand '+49.316.876.1191 us mhausenblas', mhausenblas 16:00:55 i am joining 16:01:01 thanks to the operator 16:01:09 franz has joined #mmsem 16:01:11 +[IPcaller] 16:01:14 +Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen 16:01:39 zakim, +[IPcaller] is Giovanni 16:01:39 sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]' 16:01:43 zakim, [IPcaller] is Giovanni 16:01:43 +Giovanni; got it 16:02:04 zakim, Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen is GeorgeAnadiotis 16:02:04 +GeorgeAnadiotis; got it 16:02:07 anadiotis has joined #mmsem 16:02:17 zakim, who is here? 16:02:17 On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis 16:02:18 hi, its me, thomas (franz is my last name) 16:02:19 On IRC I see anadiotis, franz, pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit 16:02:49 +??P8 16:03:03 zakim, ??P8 is Melli 16:03:03 +Melli; got it 16:03:46 cgi-irc has joined #mmsem 16:04:19 Regrets: Jacco, Chris, Patrizia Asirelli, Massimo Martinelli, Ovidio Salvetti 16:04:48 + +681302aadd 16:05:08 zakim, +681302aadd is Thierry 16:05:08 +Thierry; got it 16:05:27 stamatia has joined #mmsem 16:05:39 zakim, who is here? 16:05:39 On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry 16:05:41 On IRC I see stamatia, cgi-irc, anadiotis, franz, pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit 16:06:07 mhausenblas has joined #mmsem 16:06:17 +[IPcaller] 16:06:18 Topic: Admin 16:06:34 zakim, [IPCaller] is SusanneBoll 16:06:34 +SusanneBoll; got it 16:07:03 PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 20 July 2006 telecon: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html ACCEPTED 16:08:04 Agenda amendments: talk about the 2 deliverables 16:08:28 Agenda amendments: date for the 2nd F2F 16:09:14 PROPOSED next telecon 14 September 2006 ACCEPTED 16:09:48 Topic: LIAISON (SWBPD) 16:11:50 paul-thierry has joined #mmsem 16:12:18 zakim, who's here? 16:12:18 On the phone I see raphael, Stamatia, mhausenblas, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry, SusanneBoll 16:12:20 On IRC I see paul-thierry, mhausenblas, stamatia, cgi-irc, anadiotis, franz, pasquale, IoannisPratikakis, RRSAgent, JeffP, Zakim, raphael, giovannit 16:12:28 Jeff: I will be travelling on Sept 14, but I think Raphael can manage 16:12:30 VassilisT has joined #mmsem 16:12:48 Issue, the document "Image annotation on the Semantic 16:12:49 Web" 16:12:54 Hi all 16:12:58 should be finished by Sept 1st 16:13:06 hi Vassilis 16:13:14 hi Vassilis 16:13:18 I will follow the meeting only by irc unfirtunatelly 16:13:20 Hi Vassilis, are you going to join the phone as well? 16:13:50 hi Vassili 16:14:41 is the SWBP group closing sept 1 then? 16:14:45 is it continuing somehow? 16:16:29 ACTION: Yannis to report back to the group about the outcome of the 16:16:29 MPEG7 liason attempts after a visit of ITI in Austria [recorded in 16:16:29 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01] 16:20:56 jeff , very interesting indeed! any pointer? 16:22:11 giovannit, it is not online yet, will send to the mailing list soon 16:22:28 it is about RDFS(FA), just for the record 16:22:30 Topic: XG Updates 16:22:58 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Aug/0000.html 16:23:49 Music Use Case: 16:25:34 Giovani: how to identify tracks, songs 16:25:53 susanne has joined #mmsem 16:25:53 ... Marie is listening a song and would like to find "similar" songs 16:28:28 Identifying files using MD5 ? MPEG-7 low level features ? 16:30:48 Michael: separate the MPEG-7 (profile) and RDF representations 16:31:31 ACTION: Thierry to write up limitations of MPEG-7 description schemes 16:31:53 yes, lirics! i keep forgetting them sorry :-( 16:32:52 Thierry, not the good place. It is a more general problem 16:33:17 Thierry: current work for aligning audio and text in music 16:34:05 Giovani: include lyrics 16:34:17 update to music use case /me talking about http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm#E12E5 16:35:07 ID3 tags in RDF ? 16:35:34 Tagging Use Case: 16:36:31 george: EU project mentioned by Thomas (TAGORA ?) 16:36:57 thomas, can you write name, URL of this project ? 16:37:10 http://www.tagora-project.eu/ 16:39:12 Focus on interoperability issue 16:40:50 Susanne: strong relationship with this use case with the use case "Semantics from Multimedia Authoring" 16:41:07 News Use case: 16:43:20 Problems: many standards are used 16:43:34 zakim, who is talking? 16:43:47 JeffP, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Stamatia (4%), Thomas (56%), SusanneBoll (60%), mhausenblas (42%), Thierry (13%) 16:44:07 zakim, mute SusanneBoll 16:44:07 SusanneBoll should now be muted 16:44:07 zakim, who is talking? 16:44:13 zakim, mute mhausenblas 16:44:13 mhausenblas should now be muted 16:44:19 JeffP, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JeffP (19%), Stamatia (20%) 16:45:36 Low level feature extraction Use case 16:45:51 IoannisPratikakis 16:45:52 ? 16:46:03 am I still muted? 16:46:25 yes 16:46:32 zakim, unmute mhausenblas 16:46:32 mhausenblas should no longer be muted 16:46:37 there is a question whether the two cases will be fused 16:46:38 you were too noisy 16:46:40 Bio-medical Image Use Case 16:47:41 Melli: no RDF representation of SNOMED yet 16:48:04 ... interoperability for describing the content of the images 16:48:19 though correspondance between medical ontologies 16:48:26 MESH, SNOMED, etc. 16:48:34 thanks raphael, i'll try to breath more quiet ;) 16:51:03 Semantics from Multimedia Authoring use case: 16:51:18 zakim, unmute SuzanneBoll 16:51:18 sorry, raphael, I do not see a party named 'SuzanneBoll' 16:51:20 zakim, unmute SusanneBoll 16:51:20 SusanneBoll should no longer be muted 16:55:00 linked the 2 use cases explicitely 16:55:37 MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use case 16:56:46 Various way to express the same thing in MPEG-7 16:56:55 Michael will work on it also 16:58:21 example ? 16:58:33 Stamatia: yes we can provide some 16:58:39 as far as audio is concerned we addressed the syntactic problems with the mpeg-7audioDB, which basically normalizes different descriptionsions (at least tries to) 16:59:09 Topic: Future Meetings 17:01:23 Proposal for F2F number 2: 8-9 of December ? 17:02:58 I need to leave - thanks all. - Melli 17:03:04 -Melli 17:03:13 -Giovanni 17:03:19 ops 17:04:12 sorry got disconnected 17:05:10 Jeff: ALL use the mailling list and the wiki 17:05:18 ok bye ... see U all @ 2006/09/14 17:05:24 -Thierry 17:05:25 ACTION: ALL to update their wiki pages 17:05:26 -Thomas 17:05:28 -Stamatia 17:05:30 -GeorgeAnadiotis 17:05:32 -SusanneBoll 17:05:33 RRSAgent, draft minutes 17:05:33 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael 17:05:34 -raphael 17:05:37 -JeffP 17:05:42 -mhausenblas 17:05:43 INC_MMSEM()12:00PM has ended 17:05:43 RRSAgent, make the minutes public 17:05:43 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes public', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:05:44 Attendees were Stamatia, mhausenblas, raphael, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni, GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry, SusanneBoll 17:06:34 RRSAgent, generate minutes 17:06:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael 17:07:06 RRSAgent, create minutes 17:07:06 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael 17:07:32 RRSAgent, make the minutes public 17:07:32 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes public', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:08:45 hi all, bye 17:12:54 RRSagent, make these logs public 17:13:10 RRSAgent, generate minutes 17:13:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html raphael 17:13:28 RRSagent, make these logs public 17:13:36 RRSAgent, make the minutes public 17:13:36 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes public', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:24:49 RRSAgent, make the minutes visible 17:24:49 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the minutes visible', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:24:55 RRSAgent, make the logs visible 17:24:55 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make the logs visible', raphael. Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:24:59 RRSAgent, make logs visible 17:25:08 RRSAgent, make logs public 19:00:40 Zakim has left #mmsem