IRC log of tsdtf on 2006-08-29

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-irc

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12:01:18 [shadi]

zakim, this will be tsd

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ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 29 minutes

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meeting: TSD TF

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chair: Christophe, Carlos

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Aug/0035.html

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agenda+ Quick review of integration tools and CVS server

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agenda+ TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1

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WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started

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+Shadi

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, call Cooper-Ottawa

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ok, Michael; the call is being made

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+Cooper

12:32:50 [shadi]

zakim, ipcaller is really Chris

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+Chris; got it

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+??P2

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zakim, ? is really CarlosI

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+CarlosI; got it

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12:39:09 [ChrisR]

zakim, scribe ChrisR

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I don't understand 'scribe ChrisR', ChrisR

12:39:10 [shadi]

scribe: Chris

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scribenick: ChrisR

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agenda?

12:39:38 [shadi]

zakim, take up agendum 1

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agendum 1. "Quick review of integration tools and CVS server" taken up [from shadi]

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, ipcaller is really Shane

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+Shane; got it

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+ +3247397aaaa

12:41:04 [shadi]

zakim, aaaa is really Christophe

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+Christophe; got it

12:41:31 [shadi]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/

12:42:51 [ChrisR]

SAZ: When files are uploaded they will not be automatically visible. We must tweak file permissions. We will have to learn as we go along.

12:44:03 [ChrisR]

SAZ: Still need web interface of metadata so need scripts to create HTML files. Shadi and Chris will work on it. Perhaps BenToWeb project people can help.

12:44:50 [ChrisR]

SAZ: Should be able to use 'ant' with help from system people.

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SAZ: Next steps - Shadi, Carlos and Chris to work on it.

12:46:22 [ChrisR]

SAZ: For bug tracking - Bugzilla is available but concerns over user friendly interface. Other options may be available but not standard at W3C.

12:46:53 [shadi]

zakim, close agendum 1

12:46:53 [Zakim]

agendum 1, Quick review of integration tools and CVS server, closed

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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:

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2. TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1 [from shadi]

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zakim, take up agendum 2

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agendum 2. "TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1" taken up [from shadi]

12:47:48 [ChrisR]

CS: Some comments on list answered by CS.

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http://www.bentoweb.org/ts/home

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SA: Can't find real world examples of TCDL. Can CS post again?

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CS: Also posted code examples.

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SAZ: Have seen presentations from BenToWeb but may be difficult for others to figure out.

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SAZ: Have heard comments about making more generic but feel we should try to keep scope smaller.

12:51:08 [ChrisR]

SAZ: We're using language for specific test files but should not work too much on meta data. Should try to get out fairly quickly.

12:51:30 [ChrisR]

CS: If we keep closer to BenToWeb format will be easier for BenToWeb folks to contribute.

12:52:55 [ChrisR]

CS: action: Will create examples of minimual use of TCDL and post to list.

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action: CS will create examples of minimual use of TCDL and post to list.

12:54:43 [ChrisR]

zakim, close agendum 2

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agendum 2, TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1, closed

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I see nothing remaining on the agenda

12:56:15 [ChrisR]

CS: Asks members to review "test case senarios". Does it make sense?

12:56:28 [shadi]

zakim, close agendum 2

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agendum 2, TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1, closed

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I see nothing remaining on the agenda

12:56:48 [shadi]

agenda+ Next steps

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zakim, take up agendum 3

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agendum 3. "Next steps" taken up [from shadi]

12:57:29 [ChrisR]

SAZ: We now have repository and meta data scheme but how do we collect test samples?

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+Tim_Boland

12:59:40 [ChrisR]

CS: We can start working without web form. Need to describe repository data structure.

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CS: Will post structure of BenToWeb data to list.

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action: CS will find someone in BtW to describe filename conventions and other into.

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CS: What else is needed to get going?

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SAZ: Metadata structure is needed but we're almost ready to get going.

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TB: When uploading test files, will there be info about structure required?

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SAZ: Still working and will discuss next week on call. There will be something in metadata to indicate that it still needs review.

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TB: Will there be a review process?

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SAZ: Yes, but still to be worked out in detail.

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SAZ: Welcome to Michael and Carlos!

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SAZ: Task force is not to develop metadata. Will take existing language and apply only minor changes. Will be using BtW language.

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TB: Is task force linked from other groups like ERT? Can't seem to find links.

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MC: Don't believe there is link but will add one.

13:11:40 [shadi]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/

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action: MC will add link to this group from WCAG group page (link http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/)

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-Christophe

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-Shadi

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-Chris

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-Shane

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-CarlosI

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rrsagent, make logs world

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-Tim_Boland

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zakim, who is on the phone?

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On the phone I see Cooper

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zakim, drop cooper

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Cooper is being disconnected

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WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended

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Attendees were Shadi, Cooper, Chris, CarlosI, Shane, +3247397aaaa, Christophe, Tim_Boland

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zakim, bye

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: CS will create examples of minimual use of TCDL and post to list. [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-irc#T12-53-16

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ACTION: CS will find someone in BtW to describe filename conventions and other into. [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-irc#T13-03-20

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ACTION: MC will add link to this group from WCAG group page (link http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/) [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-irc#T13-12-04