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12:01:18 <shadi> zakim, this will be tsd
12:01:18 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 29 minutes
12:01:49 <shadi> meeting: TSD TF
12:02:03 <shadi> chair: Christophe, Carlos
12:02:51 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Aug/0035.html
12:03:04 <shadi> agenda+ Quick review of integration tools and CVS server
12:03:15 <shadi> agenda+ TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1
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12:29:39 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
12:29:42 <Zakim> +Shadi
12:32:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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12:32:36 <Michael> zakim, call Cooper-Ottawa
12:32:36 <Zakim> ok, Michael; the call is being made
12:32:38 <Zakim> +Cooper
12:32:50 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Chris
12:32:50 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
12:33:05 <Zakim> +??P2
12:33:32 <shadi> zakim, ? is really CarlosI
12:33:32 <Zakim> +CarlosI; got it
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12:39:09 <ChrisR> zakim, scribe ChrisR
12:39:09 <Zakim> I don't understand 'scribe ChrisR', ChrisR
12:39:10 <shadi> scribe: Chris
12:39:18 <shadi> scribenick: ChrisR
12:39:28 <shadi> agenda?
12:39:38 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
12:39:38 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Quick review of integration tools and CVS server" taken up [from shadi]
12:39:40 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
12:39:50 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Shane
12:39:50 <Zakim> +Shane; got it
12:40:40 <Zakim> + +3247397aaaa
12:41:04 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is really Christophe
12:41:04 <Zakim> +Christophe; got it
12:41:31 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/
12:42:51 <ChrisR> SAZ: When files are uploaded they will not be automatically visible. We must tweak file permissions. We will have to learn as we go along.
12:44:03 <ChrisR> SAZ: Still need web interface of metadata so need scripts to create HTML files. Shadi and Chris will work on it. Perhaps BenToWeb project people can help.
12:44:50 <ChrisR> SAZ: Should be able to use 'ant' with help from system people.
12:45:13 <ChrisR> SAZ: Next steps - Shadi, Carlos and Chris to work on it.
12:46:22 <ChrisR> SAZ: For bug tracking - Bugzilla is available but concerns over user friendly interface. Other options may be available but not standard at W3C.
12:46:53 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 1
12:46:53 <Zakim> agendum 1, Quick review of integration tools and CVS server, closed
12:46:54 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
12:46:55 <Zakim> 2. TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1 [from shadi]
12:47:06 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
12:47:06 <Zakim> agendum 2. "TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1" taken up [from shadi]
12:47:48 <ChrisR> CS: Some comments on list answered by CS. 
12:48:36 <shadi> http://www.bentoweb.org/ts/home
12:48:37 <ChrisR> SA: Can't find real world examples of TCDL. Can CS post again?
12:48:59 <ChrisR> CS: Also posted code examples.
12:49:30 <ChrisR> SAZ: Have seen presentations from BenToWeb but may be difficult for others to figure out.
12:49:58 <ChrisR> SAZ: Have heard comments about making more generic but feel we should try to keep scope smaller.
12:51:08 <ChrisR> SAZ: We're using language for specific test files but should not work too much on meta data. Should try to get out fairly quickly.
12:51:30 <ChrisR> CS: If we keep closer to BenToWeb format will be easier for BenToWeb folks to contribute.
12:52:55 <ChrisR> CS: action: Will create examples of minimual use of TCDL and post to list.
12:53:16 <ChrisR> action: CS will create examples of minimual use of TCDL and post to list.
12:54:43 <ChrisR> zakim, close agendum 2
12:54:43 <Zakim> agendum 2, TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1, closed
12:54:44 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
12:56:15 <ChrisR> CS: Asks members to review "test case senarios". Does it make sense?
12:56:28 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 2
12:56:28 <Zakim> agendum 2, TCDL: review of stable elements of TCDL 1.1, closed
12:56:29 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
12:56:48 <shadi> agenda+ Next steps
12:56:52 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
12:56:52 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Next steps" taken up [from shadi]
12:57:29 <ChrisR> SAZ: We now have repository and meta data scheme but how do we collect test samples?
12:59:05 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
12:59:40 <ChrisR> CS: We can start working without web form. Need to describe repository data structure.
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13:00:16 <ChrisR> CS: Will post structure of BenToWeb data to list.
13:03:20 <ChrisR> action: CS will find someone in BtW to describe filename conventions and other into.
13:03:56 <ChrisR> CS: What else is needed to get going?
13:04:16 <ChrisR> SAZ: Metadata structure is needed but we're almost ready to get going.
13:05:05 <ChrisR> TB: When uploading test files, will there be info about structure required?
13:05:50 <ChrisR> SAZ: Still working and will discuss next week on call. There will be something in metadata to indicate that it still needs review.
13:06:02 <ChrisR> TB: Will there be a review process?
13:06:13 <ChrisR> SAZ: Yes, but still to be worked out in detail.
13:06:49 <ChrisR> SAZ: Welcome to Michael and Carlos!
13:08:15 <ChrisR> SAZ: Task force is not to develop metadata. Will take existing language and apply only minor changes. Will be using BtW language.
13:10:12 <ChrisR> TB: Is task force linked from other groups like ERT? Can't seem to find links.
13:10:52 <ChrisR> MC: Don't believe there is link but will add one.
13:11:40 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/
13:12:04 <ChrisR> action: MC will add link to this group from WCAG group page (link  http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/)
13:12:35 <Zakim> -Christophe
13:12:38 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:12:39 <Zakim> -Chris
13:12:41 <Zakim> -Shane
13:12:45 <Zakim> -CarlosI
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13:12:48 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:12:49 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
13:13:36 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:13:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cooper
13:13:45 <shadi> zakim, drop cooper
13:13:45 <Zakim> Cooper is being disconnected
13:13:46 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
13:13:47 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Cooper, Chris, CarlosI, Shane, +3247397aaaa, Christophe, Tim_Boland
13:13:53 <shadi> zakim, bye
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13:13:55 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:13:59 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
13:13:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
13:14:01 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:14:05 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
13:14:05 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
13:14:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS will create examples of minimual use of TCDL and post to list. [1]
13:14:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-irc#T12-53-16
13:14:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS will find someone in BtW to describe filename conventions and other into. [2]
13:14:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-irc#T13-03-20
13:14:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MC will add link to this group from WCAG group page (link  http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/) [3]
13:14:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/29-tsdtf-irc#T13-12-04