IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-08-24
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0140.html
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- Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
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- Regrets: Cynthia_Shelly, Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Scano, Roberto_Ellero, Luca_Mascaro
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- agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- agenda+ Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193
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- agenda+ Editorz Survey for Aug 24
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- agenda+ Team B Survey for Aug 24
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- agenda+ Team C Survey for Aug 24
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- zakim, list conferences
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- I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM active
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- also scheduled at this time are XML_QueryWG(ttf)3:00PM, VB_VBWG(SIV)4:00PM, WAI_UAWG()2:00PM, XML_QueryWG()12:00PM
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- zakim, this is WAI_WCAG
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- ok, ben; that matches WAI_WCAG()3:00PM
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:01:02 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, ??P2
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- zakim, ??P2 is Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- +??P3
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- +David_MacDonald
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- +Alex_Li
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- zakim, ??P3 is Gez_Lemon
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- +Bengt_Farre
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- +Gez_Lemon; got it
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- +Sofia_Celic
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- On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Bruce_Bailey, Gez_Lemon, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic
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- +Cooper
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- +Cooper.a
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- +??P9
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- zakim, drop Cooper
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- Cooper is being disconnected
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- -Cooper
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- zakim, Cooper.a is Cooper
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- +Cooper; got it
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- zakim, ??P9 is Sorcha_Moore
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- +Sorcha_Moore; got it
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- scribe: David
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from ben]
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- Announcements: gathering info for a UA matrix. We need examples that focus on UA's that we are most used to, but need a thorough matrix with , versions, support, dates etc.
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- Q+
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- q-
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- +Tim_Boland
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- q+
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- q-
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- q+
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- + +1.412.268.aaaa
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- q-
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- zakim, +1.412.268.aaaa is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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- ack 1.4
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- ack 06+1.412.268.aaaa01
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- ack +1
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- +??P13
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- zakim, ??P13 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
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- q+
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- ack Tim
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- ack Greg
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- q+
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- ack andi
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193 [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2. "Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193" taken up [from ben]
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- topic:711
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/teamb20060817/results#xlc711
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- resolution: leave LC-711, LC-916, LC-983: set of web units issues open to figure out "set of web units" language.
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- ack alex
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- Resolution: close 832 as proposed (mark as "conformance' in the short name)
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- resolution: 1113 back to team B
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- Topic: 1193 leave open til we resolve "set of web units" topic.
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- Editors: LC-815, LC-894&LC-1000, LC-973, LC-1060
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- Team B: LC-609, LC-777, LC-778, LC-915, LC-984, LC-1012, LC-1127, LC-1131
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- Team C: LC-787
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- Resolution: close as proposed unanamous consent Editors: LC-815, LC-894&LC-1000, LC-973, LC-1060 Team B: LC-609, LC-777, LC-778, LC-915, LC-984, LC-1012, LC-1127, LC-1131Team C: LC-787
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 2 closed
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- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 3. Editorz Survey for Aug 24 [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2. "Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193" taken up [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "Editorz Survey for Aug 24" taken up [from ben]
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20060824editorz/results#x732
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- topic: editors survey Issue LC-732, Issue LC-1001, and Issue LC-1172
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Gez_Lemon, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic (muted), Cooper, Sorcha_Moore (muted),
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- ... Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- >action: Michael, Alex and Gregg to consider revising last bullet of SC 1.1.1 to read, "...such that it can be ignored by user agents and other SC that say UA including AT
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- action: Michael, Alex and Gregg to consider revising last bullet of SC 1.1.1 to read, "...such that it can be ignored by user agents and other SC that say UA including AT
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- resolution: close 732, 1001, 1173 as proposed
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- topic:topic: 1043
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- +Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- resolution: accept 1043 as proposed
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- topic: 1072
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- Resolution: accept 1072 as ammended @@ add sentence to end 6th bullet of understanding intro, "Use of advisory techniques does not impact the level of conformance claimed."
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- s/ammended/amended
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 3 closed
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- I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 4. Team B Survey for Aug 24 [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4. "Team B Survey for Aug 24" taken up [from ben]
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- Topics: issues See Aug 17 survey results and Issue LC-928. LC-984. LC-1012. LC-1127. LC-1131.
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- Resolution: Accept 928 as proposed
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- q+
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- ack d
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- q+
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- ack l
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- zakim, who is making noise
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- I don't understand 'who is making noise', ben
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- ack a
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- q+
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 21:24:09 [Christophe]
- zakim, mute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 21:28:28 [David]
- Resolution: Team B Take back LC-625, LC-626: descriptive titles (look at G88)
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- Resolution: accept 720 as amended
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- zakim, who's making noise?
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- ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (39%), Bruce_Bailey (38%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (54%)
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- zakim, mute Bruce
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- Bruce_Bailey should now be muted
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 21:30:28 [David]
- Topics: LC-734, LC-920, LC-1174, LC-1331: Trapped focus
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- +[IPcaller]
- 21:32:10 [bengt]
- zakim, +[IP is Bengt_Farre
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- sorry, bengt, I do not recognize a party named '+[IP'
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- zakim, [IP is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
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- -Tim_Boland
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- Resolution: adopt LC-734, LC-920, LC-1174, LC-1331: as amended.
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- topic: LC-755, LC-504, LC-968, LC-1299: Next Tab
- 21:40:56 [Christophe]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
- 21:49:52 [David]
- Resolution: Accept the proposed changes but include clear discussion that auto next field ok if advance warning is given, make response clear that 504 overcome by events. Loretta will clear up the responses
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- topic: 1105
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- resolution: send 1105 back to team B to include descritive title proposals
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- Resolution: Accept 1376 as amended.
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 5. Team C Survey for Aug 24 [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 5
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- agendum 5. "Team C Survey for Aug 24" taken up [from ben]
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- Topic: 688
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- Resolution: send 688 back to team C
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- Topic: 698
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- Resolution: send 698 back
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- -Alex_Li
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- -Gez_Lemon
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Cooper
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- -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- -Sorcha_Moore
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 5 closed
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- I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Gez_Lemon, Sofia_Celic,
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- ... Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, [IPcaller]
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- Present: Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Gez_Lemon, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic, Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bruce_Bailey
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Michael, Alex and Gregg to consider revising last bullet of SC 1.1.1 to read, "...such that it can be ignored by user agents and other SC that say UA including AT [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-53-36