IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-08-24

Timestamps are in UTC.

19:39:25 [RRSAgent]
RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
19:39:25 [RRSAgent]
logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-wai-wcag-irc
19:39:31 [ben]
RRSAgent, do not start a new log
19:39:37 [ben]
RRSAgent, make log world
19:39:43 [ben]
Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
19:39:49 [ben]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0140.html
19:39:55 [ben]
Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
19:40:00 [ben]
ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
19:40:09 [ben]
Regrets: Cynthia_Shelly, Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Scano, Roberto_Ellero, Luca_Mascaro
19:40:15 [ben]
agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
19:40:33 [ben]
agenda+ Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193
19:40:46 [ben]
agenda+ Editorz Survey for Aug 24
19:40:54 [ben]
agenda+ Team B Survey for Aug 24
19:41:01 [ben]
agenda+ Team C Survey for Aug 24
19:54:13 [Loretta]
Loretta has joined #wai-wcag
19:56:50 [David]
David has joined #wai-wcag
19:58:31 [Andi]
Andi has joined #wai-wcag
20:00:37 [Sofia]
Sofia has joined #wai-wcag
20:00:37 [Gez]
Gez has joined #wai-wcag
20:00:46 [ben]
zakim, list conferences
20:00:46 [Zakim]
I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM active
20:00:48 [Zakim]
also scheduled at this time are XML_QueryWG(ttf)3:00PM, VB_VBWG(SIV)4:00PM, WAI_UAWG()2:00PM, XML_QueryWG()12:00PM
20:00:56 [ben]
zakim, this is WAI_WCAG
20:00:56 [Zakim]
ok, ben; that matches WAI_WCAG()3:00PM
20:01:02 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:01:02 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, ??P2
20:01:04 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
20:01:07 [ben]
zakim, ??P2 is Ben_Caldwell
20:01:07 [Zakim]
+Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:01:09 [Zakim]
+??P3
20:01:20 [Zakim]
+David_MacDonald
20:01:27 [Zakim]
+Alex_Li
20:01:34 [ben]
zakim, ??P3 is Gez_Lemon
20:01:35 [Zakim]
+Bengt_Farre
20:01:37 [Zakim]
+Gez_Lemon; got it
20:01:41 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:01:41 [Zakim]
+Sofia_Celic
20:01:43 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Bruce_Bailey, Gez_Lemon, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic
20:02:12 [Zakim]
+Cooper
20:02:32 [Zakim]
+Cooper.a
20:02:36 [Zakim]
+??P9
20:02:47 [Michael]
zakim, drop Cooper
20:02:47 [Zakim]
Cooper is being disconnected
20:02:48 [Zakim]
-Cooper
20:02:56 [Michael]
zakim, Cooper.a is Cooper
20:02:57 [Zakim]
+Cooper; got it
20:03:29 [Christophe]
Christophe has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:38 [ben]
zakim, ??P9 is Sorcha_Moore
20:03:38 [Zakim]
+Sorcha_Moore; got it
20:04:06 [ben]
scribe: David
20:04:14 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 1
20:04:14 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from ben]
20:04:38 [Zakim]
+Christophe_Strobbe
20:06:06 [Sorcha]
Sorcha has joined #wai-wcag
20:06:09 [David]
Announcements: gathering info for a UA matrix. We need examples that focus on UA's that we are most used to, but need a thorough matrix with , versions, support, dates etc.
20:07:40 [Gez]
Q+
20:09:13 [Gez]
q-
20:09:31 [Zakim]
+Tim_Boland
20:09:53 [Gez]
q+
20:10:05 [Tim]
Tim has joined #wai-wcag
20:10:45 [Gez]
q-
20:14:47 [Gez]
q+
20:15:02 [Zakim]
+ +1.412.268.aaaa
20:16:38 [Gez]
q-
20:18:27 [ben]
zakim, +1.412.268.aaaa is Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:18:27 [Zakim]
+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
20:18:50 [ben]
ack 1.4
20:19:03 [ben]
ack 06+1.412.268.aaaa01
20:19:22 [ben]
ack +1
20:22:17 [Gregg]
Gregg has joined #wai-wcag
20:23:32 [Zakim]
+??P13
20:26:15 [ben]
zakim, ??P13 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:26:15 [Zakim]
+Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
20:27:38 [Gregg]
q+
20:27:50 [ben]
ack Tim
20:27:56 [ben]
ack Greg
20:28:28 [Andi]
q+
20:30:51 [ben]
ack andi
20:31:27 [ben]
zakim, close this item
20:31:27 [Zakim]
agendum 1 closed
20:31:28 [Zakim]
I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:31:29 [Zakim]
2. Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193 [from ben]
20:31:32 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 2
20:31:32 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193" taken up [from ben]
20:32:58 [David]
topic:711
20:33:04 [ben]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/teamb20060817/results#xlc711
20:35:29 [David]
resolution: leave LC-711, LC-916, LC-983: set of web units issues open to figure out "set of web units" language.
20:36:50 [ben]
ack alex
20:37:41 [David]
Resolution: close 832 as proposed (mark as "conformance' in the short name)
20:38:16 [David]
resolution: 1113 back to team B
20:39:25 [David]
Topic: 1193 leave open til we resolve "set of web units" topic.
20:39:50 [ben]
Editors: LC-815, LC-894&LC-1000, LC-973, LC-1060
20:39:50 [ben]
Team B: LC-609, LC-777, LC-778, LC-915, LC-984, LC-1012, LC-1127, LC-1131
20:39:50 [ben]
Team C: LC-787
20:40:40 [David]
Resolution: close as proposed unanamous consent Editors: LC-815, LC-894&LC-1000, LC-973, LC-1060 Team B: LC-609, LC-777, LC-778, LC-915, LC-984, LC-1012, LC-1127, LC-1131Team C: LC-787
20:41:00 [ben]
zakim, close this item
20:41:00 [Zakim]
agendum 2 closed
20:41:01 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:41:02 [Zakim]
3. Editorz Survey for Aug 24 [from ben]
20:41:05 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 2
20:41:05 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Team B Survey for Aug 17, Issues 711 (et al), 832, 1113, 1193" taken up [from ben]
20:41:12 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 3
20:41:12 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Editorz Survey for Aug 24" taken up [from ben]
20:41:55 [ben]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20060824editorz/results#x732
20:42:17 [David]
topic: editors survey Issue LC-732, Issue LC-1001, and Issue LC-1172
20:46:37 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
20:47:00 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:47:00 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Gez_Lemon, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic (muted), Cooper, Sorcha_Moore (muted),
20:47:04 [Zakim]
... Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:50:18 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
20:52:00 [Zakim]
-Andi_Snow_Weaver
20:53:22 [David]
>action: Michael, Alex and Gregg to consider revising last bullet of SC 1.1.1 to read, "...such that it can be ignored by user agents and other SC that say UA including AT
20:53:36 [David]
action: Michael, Alex and Gregg to consider revising last bullet of SC 1.1.1 to read, "...such that it can be ignored by user agents and other SC that say UA including AT
20:54:55 [David]
resolution: close 732, 1001, 1173 as proposed
20:56:42 [David]
topic:topic: 1043
20:57:15 [Zakim]
+Andi_Snow_Weaver
20:58:39 [David]
resolution: accept 1043 as proposed
20:58:49 [David]
topic: 1072
21:01:47 [David]
Resolution: accept 1072 as ammended @@ add sentence to end 6th bullet of understanding intro, "Use of advisory techniques does not impact the level of conformance claimed."
21:02:03 [David]
s/ammended/amended
21:02:16 [ben]
zakim, close this item
21:02:16 [Zakim]
agendum 3 closed
21:02:17 [Zakim]
I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:02:18 [Zakim]
4. Team B Survey for Aug 24 [from ben]
21:02:24 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 4
21:02:24 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "Team B Survey for Aug 24" taken up [from ben]
21:04:40 [David]
Topics: issues See Aug 17 survey results and Issue LC-928. LC-984. LC-1012. LC-1127. LC-1131.
21:06:13 [David]
Resolution: Accept 928 as proposed
21:10:58 [David]
q+
21:13:17 [Gregg]
ack d
21:13:18 [Loretta]
q+
21:14:31 [Gregg]
ack l
21:15:44 [ben]
zakim, who is making noise
21:15:44 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is making noise', ben
21:16:05 [Gregg]
ack a
21:17:35 [Gregg]
q+
21:19:24 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
21:24:09 [Christophe]
zakim, mute me
21:24:09 [Zakim]
Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
21:24:11 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
21:28:28 [David]
Resolution: Team B Take back LC-625, LC-626: descriptive titles (look at G88)
21:29:22 [Zakim]
-Bengt_Farre
21:29:32 [David]
Resolution: accept 720 as amended
21:29:44 [ben]
zakim, who's making noise?
21:29:55 [Zakim]
ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (39%), Bruce_Bailey (38%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (54%)
21:30:03 [ben]
zakim, mute Bruce
21:30:03 [Zakim]
Bruce_Bailey should now be muted
21:30:19 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
21:30:28 [David]
Topics: LC-734, LC-920, LC-1174, LC-1331: Trapped focus
21:31:57 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
21:32:10 [bengt]
zakim, +[IP is Bengt_Farre
21:32:10 [Zakim]
sorry, bengt, I do not recognize a party named '+[IP'
21:32:18 [bengt]
zakim, [IP is Bengt_Farre
21:32:18 [Zakim]
+Bengt_Farre; got it
21:32:28 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
21:32:37 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
21:37:26 [David]
Resolution: adopt LC-734, LC-920, LC-1174, LC-1331: as amended.
21:38:45 [David]
topic: LC-755, LC-504, LC-968, LC-1299: Next Tab
21:40:56 [Christophe]
zakim, unmute me
21:40:56 [Zakim]
Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
21:49:52 [David]
Resolution: Accept the proposed changes but include clear discussion that auto next field ok if advance warning is given, make response clear that 504 overcome by events. Loretta will clear up the responses
21:50:04 [David]
topic: 1105
21:52:17 [David]
resolution: send 1105 back to team B to include descritive title proposals
21:53:24 [David]
Resolution: Accept 1376 as amended.
21:54:29 [ben]
zakim, close this item
21:54:29 [Zakim]
agendum 4 closed
21:54:30 [Zakim]
I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
21:54:31 [Zakim]
5. Team C Survey for Aug 24 [from ben]
21:54:34 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 5
21:54:34 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "Team C Survey for Aug 24" taken up [from ben]
21:56:12 [David]
Topic: 688
21:57:40 [David]
Resolution: send 688 back to team C
21:57:49 [David]
Topic: 698
22:01:02 [Zakim]
-Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:09:36 [David]
Resolution: send 698 back
22:10:03 [Sorcha]
Sorcha has left #wai-wcag
22:10:13 [Zakim]
-Alex_Li
22:10:15 [Zakim]
-Gez_Lemon
22:10:16 [Zakim]
-Sofia_Celic
22:10:17 [Zakim]
-Bengt_Farre
22:10:18 [Zakim]
-David_MacDonald
22:10:19 [Zakim]
-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:10:20 [Zakim]
-Cooper
22:10:21 [Zakim]
-Andi_Snow_Weaver
22:10:21 [Zakim]
-Christophe_Strobbe
22:10:26 [Zakim]
-Ben_Caldwell
22:10:28 [Zakim]
-Sorcha_Moore
22:10:43 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
22:11:22 [ben]
zakim, close this item
22:11:22 [Zakim]
agendum 5 closed
22:11:23 [Zakim]
I see nothing remaining on the agenda
22:11:34 [ben]
zakim, bye
22:11:34 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Gez_Lemon, Sofia_Celic,
22:11:34 [Zakim]
Zakim has left #wai-wcag
22:11:37 [Zakim]
... Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, [IPcaller]
22:11:38 [bengt]
bengt has left #wai-wcag
22:11:45 [ben]
Present: Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Gez_Lemon, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic, Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bruce_Bailey
22:11:48 [ben]
RRSAgent, bye
22:11:48 [RRSAgent]
I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
22:11:48 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Michael, Alex and Gregg to consider revising last bullet of SC 1.1.1 to read, "...such that it can be ignored by user agents and other SC that say UA including AT [1]
22:11:48 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-53-36