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12:38:21 <shadi> zakim, thisw
12:38:21 <Zakim> I don't understand 'thisw', shadi
12:38:28 <shadi> zakim, this will be tsdtf
12:38:28 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes
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12:58:22 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM has now started
12:58:24 <Zakim> +Shadi
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13:00:52 <shadi> :(
13:01:28 <Zakim> +CarlosV
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13:01:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:02:16 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Chris
13:02:16 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
13:02:23 <shadi> meeting: TSD TF
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13:02:39 <shadi> chair: CarlosV, Christophe
13:02:45 <shadi> scribe: Chris
13:03:19 <Zakim> +Sandor_Herramhof
13:03:28 <shadi> zakim, please mute me
13:03:28 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:03:45 <Zakim> +Vangelis
13:04:45 <shadi> zakim, please unmute me
13:04:45 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
13:04:55 <shadi> zakim, please mute me
13:04:55 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:05:09 <carlos> Christophe, try again
13:05:29 <shadi> zakim, please unmute me
13:05:29 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
13:05:37 <shadi> zakim, please mute me
13:05:37 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:05:56 <shadi> zakim, please unmute me
13:05:56 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
13:06:25 <ChrisR> agenda+
13:06:44 <ChrisR> agenda+ Tools for storage of samples and test metadata (CVS or SVN server,
13:06:44 <ChrisR> Bugzila, etc)
13:06:58 <shadi> zakim, please mute me
13:06:58 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:07:04 <shadi> zakim, please unmute me
13:07:04 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
13:07:37 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Aug/0009.html
13:07:45 <shadi> agenda?
13:07:58 <shadi> zakim, drop agendum 1
13:07:58 <Zakim> agendum 1, , dropped
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13:08:10 <shadi> agenda+ TCDL discussion following last week's call issues
13:08:19 <shadi> agenda+ Working Group procedure for development of test samples (indivual 
13:08:19 <shadi> assignments, review process, etc.)
13:08:32 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
13:08:33 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Tools for storage of samples and test metadata (CVS or SVN server," taken up [from ChrisR]
13:08:33 <ChrisR> CV: suggest using CVS for storing material
13:09:18 <ChrisR> SAZ: need mechanism to collect info
13:09:19 <Zakim> +Paul_Bohman
13:09:29 <ChrisR> SAZ: not everyone has CVS access 
13:09:41 <shadi> zakim, paul is really Shane
13:09:41 <Zakim> +Shane; got it
13:10:34 <ChrisR> SAZ: database should contain samples from group and from public
13:10:44 <ChrisR> SAZ: suggest using web form
13:11:22 <ChrisR> SAZ: a person needs to process info and then put in database then put to task force
13:11:48 <ChrisR> CV: web form can put info directly into CVS
13:12:41 <ChrisR> SAZ: suggest that one or two people are responsible for keeping data in sync
13:13:06 <ChrisR> CV: CVS has been working well for BenToWeb
13:15:26 <ChrisR> CV: web form can be used to transform general data to our format
13:18:13 <ChrisR> discussion of entry form for data
13:18:39 <ChrisR> SAZ: form must include copyright notice and form
13:19:21 <ChrisR> SAZ: data should not go directly into database must be viewed by human
13:22:15 <ChrisR> discussion of process to get data into database
13:23:19 <ChrisR> discussion of use of bugzilla re data
13:25:22 <ChrisR> CV: there is a web front end to BTW tests and also CVS access
13:26:07 <ChrisR> SAZ: suggest using web front end form that includes signing IPR and filling out metadata before submitting data
13:26:25 <carlos> Issue tracking tool: JIRA - http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/
13:26:43 <ChrisR> SAZ: data is then sent to list for discussion in moderated form (SAZ will check for spam etc.)
13:27:06 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
13:27:28 <ChrisR> SAZ: data will then be entered into database
13:27:29 <Christophe> zakim, mute me
13:27:29 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
13:28:14 <ChrisR> SAZ: there will be web based front end to database (read only)
13:31:26 <Christophe> zakim, unmute me
13:31:26 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
13:32:12 <ChrisR> CS: need more than 2 people with access to CVS
13:32:50 <ChrisR> SAZ: will look at level of participation and decide how many get access
13:34:20 <ChrisR> SAZ: can BTW code be reused?
13:34:50 <ChrisR> CV: some of it can possibly be reused
13:35:18 <ChrisR> CR: ATRC test suite code may also be reused
13:35:18 <shadi> Contribution from Public -> Web Form (includes TDL metadata and IPR) -> Script to generate formatted e-mail -> Approval by moderator -> Published on mailing list -> Input into CVS -> Triggers scripts that generate Web view of the database
13:40:38 <ChrisR> discussion of public and group submissions
13:42:28 <ChrisR> CV: suggest we get format of files fixed first - then move onto submission form
13:42:39 <ChrisR> SAZ: do in parallel
13:43:37 <ChrisR> SA: suggest using form ourselves to make sure it works
13:44:40 <ChrisR> discussion of Bugzilla and JIRA
13:49:44 <ChrisR> SA: use real database or just collection of files?
13:49:58 <ChrisR> SAZ: think this will be just a collection of files
13:51:24 <ChrisR> SAZ: W3C has good support for CVS, not sure about Subversion or other version control systems
13:54:37 <ChrisR> SAZ: looking for volunteers for creating code
13:55:56 <ChrisR> CR: offers to write code
13:56:59 <ChrisR> action: SAZ will create accounts for task force members to upload to CVS
13:57:16 <ChrisR> action: SAZ will work with W3C and Chris to setup system
13:57:44 <ChrisR> SAZ: re bug tracking system...
13:58:05 <ChrisR> action: SAZ will check with W3C re bug tracking system
13:58:19 <ChrisR> action: everyone to check into bug tracking systems for use in project
13:59:59 <ChrisR> CS: will send update of his documents
14:00:35 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
14:00:37 <Zakim> -Shane
14:00:38 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:00:39 <Zakim> -Vangelis
14:00:44 <Zakim> -Chris
14:00:45 <Zakim> -Sandor_Herramhof
14:00:46 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM has ended
14:00:47 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, CarlosV, Chris, Sandor_Herramhof, Vangelis, Paul_Bohman, Shane, Christophe_Strobbe
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14:02:06 <shadi> zakim, bye
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14:02:13 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
14:02:19 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
14:02:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
14:02:21 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
14:02:27 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
14:02:27 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
14:02:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ will create accounts for task force members to upload to CVS [1]
14:02:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-56-59
14:02:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ will work with W3C and Chris to setup system [2]
14:02:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-57-16
14:02:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ will check with W3C re bug tracking system [3]
14:02:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-58-05
14:02:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: everyone to check into bug tracking systems for use in project [4]
14:02:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-58-19
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