IRC log of tsdtf on 2006-08-09

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc

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12:38:21 [shadi]

zakim, thisw

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I don't understand 'thisw', shadi

12:38:28 [shadi]

zakim, this will be tsdtf

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ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes

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WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM has now started

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+Shadi

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:(

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+CarlosV

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, ipcaller is really Chris

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+Chris; got it

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meeting: TSD TF

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chair: CarlosV, Christophe

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scribe: Chris

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+Sandor_Herramhof

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zakim, please mute me

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Shadi should now be muted

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+Vangelis

13:04:45 [shadi]

zakim, please unmute me

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Shadi should no longer be muted

13:04:55 [shadi]

zakim, please mute me

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Shadi should now be muted

13:05:09 [carlos]

Christophe, try again

13:05:29 [shadi]

zakim, please unmute me

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Shadi should no longer be muted

13:05:37 [shadi]

zakim, please mute me

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Shadi should now be muted

13:05:56 [shadi]

zakim, please unmute me

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Shadi should no longer be muted

13:06:25 [ChrisR]

agenda+

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agenda+ Tools for storage of samples and test metadata (CVS or SVN server,

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Bugzila, etc)

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zakim, please mute me

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Shadi should now be muted

13:07:04 [shadi]

zakim, please unmute me

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Shadi should no longer be muted

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Aug/0009.html

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agenda?

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zakim, drop agendum 1

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agendum 1, , dropped

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agenda+ TCDL discussion following last week's call issues

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agenda+ Working Group procedure for development of test samples (indivual

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assignments, review process, etc.)

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zakim, take up agendum 2

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agendum 2. "Tools for storage of samples and test metadata (CVS or SVN server," taken up [from ChrisR]

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CV: suggest using CVS for storing material

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SAZ: need mechanism to collect info

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+Paul_Bohman

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SAZ: not everyone has CVS access

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zakim, paul is really Shane

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+Shane; got it

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SAZ: database should contain samples from group and from public

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SAZ: suggest using web form

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SAZ: a person needs to process info and then put in database then put to task force

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CV: web form can put info directly into CVS

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SAZ: suggest that one or two people are responsible for keeping data in sync

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CV: CVS has been working well for BenToWeb

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CV: web form can be used to transform general data to our format

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discussion of entry form for data

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SAZ: form must include copyright notice and form

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SAZ: data should not go directly into database must be viewed by human

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discussion of process to get data into database

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discussion of use of bugzilla re data

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CV: there is a web front end to BTW tests and also CVS access

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SAZ: suggest using web front end form that includes signing IPR and filling out metadata before submitting data

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Issue tracking tool: JIRA - http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/

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SAZ: data is then sent to list for discussion in moderated form (SAZ will check for spam etc.)

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+Christophe_Strobbe

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SAZ: data will then be entered into database

13:27:29 [Christophe]

zakim, mute me

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Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted

13:28:14 [ChrisR]

SAZ: there will be web based front end to database (read only)

13:31:26 [Christophe]

zakim, unmute me

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Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted

13:32:12 [ChrisR]

CS: need more than 2 people with access to CVS

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SAZ: will look at level of participation and decide how many get access

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SAZ: can BTW code be reused?

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CV: some of it can possibly be reused

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CR: ATRC test suite code may also be reused

13:35:18 [shadi]

Contribution from Public -> Web Form (includes TDL metadata and IPR) -> Script to generate formatted e-mail -> Approval by moderator -> Published on mailing list -> Input into CVS -> Triggers scripts that generate Web view of the database

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discussion of public and group submissions

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CV: suggest we get format of files fixed first - then move onto submission form

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SAZ: do in parallel

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SA: suggest using form ourselves to make sure it works

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discussion of Bugzilla and JIRA

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SA: use real database or just collection of files?

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SAZ: think this will be just a collection of files

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SAZ: W3C has good support for CVS, not sure about Subversion or other version control systems

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SAZ: looking for volunteers for creating code

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CR: offers to write code

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action: SAZ will create accounts for task force members to upload to CVS

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action: SAZ will work with W3C and Chris to setup system

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SAZ: re bug tracking system...

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action: SAZ will check with W3C re bug tracking system

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action: everyone to check into bug tracking systems for use in project

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CS: will send update of his documents

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-Christophe_Strobbe

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-Shane

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-Shadi

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-Vangelis

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-Chris

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-Sandor_Herramhof

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WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Shadi, CarlosV, Chris, Sandor_Herramhof, Vangelis, Paul_Bohman, Shane, Christophe_Strobbe

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zakim, bye

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: SAZ will create accounts for task force members to upload to CVS [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-56-59

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ACTION: SAZ will work with W3C and Chris to setup system [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-57-16

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ACTION: SAZ will check with W3C re bug tracking system [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-58-05

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ACTION: everyone to check into bug tracking systems for use in project [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-tsdtf-irc#T13-58-19

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