IRC log of ws-policy on 2006-08-02

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15:48:39 [plh]: Meeting: Web Services Policy
15:48:43 [plh]: Chair: Chris
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15:52:14 [plh]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html
15:52:43 [plh]: Previous minutes: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/26-ws-policy-minutes.html
15:53:52 [plh]: Regrets: Felix, Seumas, Charlton
15:54:13 [plh]: rrsagent, make logs member-visible
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15:54:35 [plh]: rrsagent, generate minutes
15:54:35 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html plh
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16:00:00 [Zakim]: Attendees were
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16:00:30 [Zakim]: +Plh
16:00:46 [Zakim]: + +1.508.628.aaaa
16:00:53 [whenry]: Having trouble getting in the conf bridge
16:00:55 [JCrump]: JCrump has joined #ws-policy
16:00:58 [Zakim]: +Chris_Ferris
16:01:00 [Zakim]: +??P4
16:01:02 [Zakim]: - +1.508.628.aaaa
16:01:06 [Zakim]: + +1.719.387.aabb
16:01:11 [whenry]: In now
16:01:11 [Zakim]: + +1.415.402.aacc
16:01:25 [dmoberg]: dmoberg has joined #ws-policy
16:01:29 [whenry]: zakim, +1 719.387.aabb is me
16:01:30 [Zakim]: I don't understand '+1 719.387.aabb is me', whenry
16:02:00 [Zakim]: + +1.508.628.aadd
16:02:03 [ruchith]: ruchith has joined #ws-policy
16:02:04 [plh]: zakim, +1.415.402.aacc is Jong.Lee
16:02:04 [Zakim]: +Jong.Lee; got it
16:02:07 [sanka]: sanka has joined #ws-policy
16:02:20 [Zakim]: +??P13
16:02:25 [Zakim]: +Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:26 [Fabian]: zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:27 [whenry]: zakim, +1.719.378.aabb iis whenry
16:02:27 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, ??P4, +1.719.387.aabb, Jong.Lee, +1.508.628.aadd, ??P13, Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:29 [Zakim]: I don't understand '+1.719.378.aabb iis whenry', whenry
16:02:32 [plh]: zakim, ??p13 is Dale
16:02:32 [Zakim]: +Dale; got it
16:02:37 [Zakim]: + +1.781.999.aaee
16:02:40 [Fabian]: zakim, ??P4 is Fabian
16:02:40 [Zakim]: +Fabian; got it
16:02:50 [Zakim]: +[IBM]
16:02:57 [whenry]: zakim, +1.719.378.aabb is whenry
16:02:57 [Zakim]: sorry, whenry, I do not recognize a party named '+1.719.378.aabb'
16:02:58 [Zakim]: + +1.519.271.aaff
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16:03:10 [JCrump]: zakim, +1.781.999.aabb is me
16:03:10 [Zakim]: sorry, JCrump, I do not recognize a party named '+1.781.999.aabb'
16:03:14 [whenry]: zakim, +1.719.387.aabb iis whenry
16:03:14 [Zakim]: I don't understand '+1.719.387.aabb iis whenry', whenry
16:03:24 [Ashok]: Ashok has joined #ws-policy
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16:03:31 [whenry]: zakim, +1.719.387.aabb is whenry
16:03:31 [Zakim]: +whenry; got it
16:03:43 [plh]: zakim, who's here?
16:03:43 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, +1.508.628.aadd, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.781.999.aaee, [IBM], +1.519.271.aaff
16:03:46 [Zakim]: On IRC I see prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:03:48 [Zakim]: + +1.617.314.aagg
16:03:54 [JCrump]: zakim, +1.781.999.aabb is JCrump
16:03:54 [Zakim]: sorry, JCrump, I do not recognize a party named '+1.781.999.aabb'
16:04:02 [asir]: asir has joined #ws-policy
16:04:07 [JCrump]: grr
16:04:10 [cferris]: zakim, +1.508.628.aadd is Yakov
16:04:10 [Zakim]: +Yakov; got it
16:04:10 [Yakov]: Yakov has joined #ws-policy
16:04:18 [cferris]: zakim, who is here?
16:04:18 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Yakov, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.781.999.aaee, [IBM], +1.519.271.aaff, +1.617.314.aagg
16:04:21 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:04:22 [Zakim]: +Prasad_Yendluri
16:04:31 [sanka]: zakim, +1.617.314.aagg is Sanka
16:04:31 [Zakim]: +Sanka; got it
16:04:38 [Zakim]: -Yakov
16:04:43 [JCrump]: zakim, +1.781.999.aaee is JCrump
16:04:43 [Zakim]: +JCrump; got it
16:04:47 [Zakim]: +RSalz
16:04:51 [cferris]: zakim, +IBM is Tony
16:04:51 [Zakim]: sorry, cferris, I do not recognize a party named '+IBM'
16:04:56 [Zakim]: + +1.208.284.aahh
16:04:59 [JCrump]: zakim, who is here?
16:05:04 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, [IBM], +1.519.271.aaff, Sanka, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, +1.208.284.aahh
16:05:07 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:05:11 [plh]: zakim, +1.519.271.aaff is Paul.Cotton
16:05:13 [cferris]: Zakim, [IBM} is Tony
16:05:17 [Nadalin]: Nadalin has joined #ws-policy
16:05:18 [Zakim]: +Paul.Cotton; got it
16:05:22 [Zakim]: sorry, cferris, I do not recognize a party named '[IBM}'
16:05:28 [Zakim]: +Tom_Jordahl
16:05:32 [Zakim]: +Yakov
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16:05:44 [Zakim]: +??P28
16:05:51 [plh]: zakim, +1.208.284.aahh is Monica
16:05:52 [Yakov]: Yakov 508-628-...
16:05:53 [maryann]: maryann has joined #ws-policy
16:05:54 [Zakim]: +Monica; got it
16:06:02 [cferris]: zakim, who is here?
16:06:02 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, [IBM], Paul.Cotton, Sanka, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, Monica, Tom_Jordahl, Yakov, ??P28
16:06:09 [Zakim]: On IRC I see maryann, TomJ, Nadalin, Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:06:37 [Fabian]: zakim, [IBM] is Tony
16:06:37 [Zakim]: +Tony; got it
16:07:25 [Nadalin]: wave back
16:07:33 [Zakim]: +Glen
16:07:53 [GlenD]: GlenD has joined #ws-policy
16:08:05 [plh]: zakim, who's here?
16:08:05 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, Tony, Paul.Cotton, Sanka, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, Monica, Tom_Jordahl, Yakov, ??P28,
16:08:08 [Zakim]: ... Glen
16:08:10 [Zakim]: On IRC I see GlenD, maryann, TomJ, Nadalin, Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:08:20 [plh]: zakim, ??p28 is Asir
16:08:20 [Zakim]: +Asir; got it
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16:08:45 [Zakim]: -Sanka
16:09:36 [Zakim]: +Sanka
16:10:44 [Zakim]: -Sanka
16:11:05 [plh]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html
16:11:26 [plh]: Scribe: prasad
16:11:38 [Zakim]: +Sanka
16:11:41 [prasad]: Topic: Agenda review
16:13:24 [prasad]: Chris: Include discussion of primer inserted after the AI discussion
16:15:18 [prasad]: Ashok: I requested agenda item discussion of how many messages you can have .. resulting AI in Austin
16:15:25 [plh]: zakim, who's making noise?
16:15:33 [prasad]: s/AI/from AI/
16:15:36 [Zakim]: plh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JCrump (4%), Chris_Ferris (74%), Ashok_Malhotra (51%), Sanka (9%), Prasad_Yendluri (24%)
16:15:52 [plh]: zakim, mute prasad
16:15:52 [Zakim]: Prasad_Yendluri should now be muted
16:16:06 [plh]: zakim, unmute prasad
16:16:06 [Zakim]: Prasad_Yendluri should no longer be muted
16:16:12 [GlenD]: zakim, mute sanka
16:16:12 [Zakim]: Sanka should now be muted
16:16:29 [Paulc]: amendments to minutes from Asir: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0006.html
16:16:38 [Ashok]: Here is the mail I just spoke abt: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Jul/0093.html
16:16:43 [prasad]: Topic: Approval of last telcon minutes
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16:17:24 [sanka]: thats fine ..
16:18:12 [sanka]: I'll unmute if I want to ask a question ..
16:19:30 [prasad]: Chris: Amend the minutes to record the AIs closed
16:19:40 [asir]: ACTION: editors to implement the resolution for issue 3562.
16:19:52 [prasad]: ACTION: PLH to amend the minutes per Asir's minutes
16:20:16 [prasad]: s/minutes/mail/
16:20:33 [prasad]: Minutes approved with amendment
16:20:42 [prasad]: Topic: F2F meeting
16:22:58 [prasad]: Chris: Paul and I think best to go with Sonic offer in Nov
16:23:31 [prasad]: Chris: Go with BEA in SFO for Jan
16:23:33 [GlenD]: +1
16:24:16 [prasad]: Jan 16-18th tentative plan
16:24:58 [prasad]: Chris: Confirmed Nov F2F at Sonic
16:25:09 [prasad]: Topic: WG Draft
16:25:35 [prasad]: Chris: Congrats to WG on publicatin of WG Draft
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16:26:12 [prasad]: s/publicatin/publication/
16:26:44 [prasad]: ACTION: PLH to check email notification of publication of WG (obligation)
16:27:02 [prasad]: s/check/check on/
16:27:28 [prasad]: Topic: WG Tools
16:28:11 [prasad]: Chris: Major change new issues submitted into Bugzilla
16:29:24 [prasad]: Chris: All bugs must be entered into bugzilla. Felix sent out FAQ, I updated FAQ
16:31:05 [Zakim]: +??P0
16:31:18 [prasad]: Chris: Owner responsible shephearding the issue
16:31:23 [umit]: zakim, ??P0 is umit
16:31:23 [Zakim]: +umit; got it
16:31:34 [prasad]: q+
16:31:44 [umit]: q+
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16:32:05 [cferris]: ack pr
16:32:50 [asir]: q+
16:32:55 [Zakim]: + +1.617.933.aaii
16:33:20 [prasad]: Prasad: Are we doing both sending NEW ISSUE to list as well as bugzilla?
16:33:33 [cferris]: ack um
16:33:37 [ruchith]: zakim, +1.617.933.aaii is me
16:33:37 [Zakim]: +ruchith; got it
16:34:10 [prasad]: Chris: No, Bugzilla should send a notification to list. Currently not working
16:34:20 [prasad]: Umit: Clarification on issue owner
16:34:31 [prasad]: Chris: Owner is admin of the issue
16:34:36 [cferris]: ack asir
16:35:07 [prasad]: Asir: Some of the issues all links are not in Bugzilla.
16:35:21 [prasad]: Asir: Tile of the issue changes in Buzilla notification
16:35:31 [prasad]: s/Tile/Title/
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16:36:39 [prasad]: Chris: Owners include link to original issue in Bugzilla
16:36:56 [umit]: umit has joined #ws-policy
16:37:06 [prasad]: Asir: None of the Editorial AIs are in Tracker
16:37:33 [prasad]: AI: Chris to ck on separate tracker for Editorial AIs
16:37:51 [prasad]: ACTION: Chris to ck on separate tracker for Editorial AIs
16:38:42 [trackbot]: trackbot has joined #ws-policy
16:38:42 [trackbot]: Tracking ISSUEs and ACTIONs from http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/
16:38:42 [prasad]: Topic: Action Items Review
16:39:35 [prasad]: AI 2, * done
16:39:46 [prasad]: AIs 2 and 8 DONE
16:40:27 [prasad]: AIs 10, 11 DONE
16:41:42 [prasad]: AIs 14, 18 DONE
16:42:44 [prasad]: AIs 21 DONE
16:43:26 [prasad]: AIs 22 and 25 CLOSED
16:43:40 [prasad]: AI 23 and 26 are DUPLICATES
16:44:15 [prasad]: AI 23 and 26 CLOSED
16:44:26 [umit]: Chris, Action 12 and 13 are duplicated
16:44:36 [umit]: that is why I was confused, sorry about that.
16:44:45 [prasad]: AI 29 and 31 CLOSEE
16:44:46 [umit]: One of them should be closed
16:44:52 [prasad]: S/CLOSEE/CLOSED/
16:45:03 [prasad]: AI 30 CLOSED
16:45:35 [Zakim]: -Dale
16:46:02 [prasad]: AI 13 CLOSED (duplicate of 12)
16:46:14 [prasad]: AI 1 CLOSED
16:47:00 [prasad]: Topic: Primer outline
16:47:34 [prasad]: Marianne: Walks through the outline (Umit and Marianne had offline discussions)
16:48:27 [prasad]: s/Marianne/Maryann/g
16:48:52 [Zakim]: +Frederick_Hirsch
16:49:42 [cferris]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0009.html
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16:50:43 [prasad]: Topic: ditorial and wording changing issues
16:50:57 [cferris]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3545
16:51:07 [prasad]: s/diorial/Editorial/
16:51:51 [asir]: q+
16:52:00 [cferris]: ack asir
16:52:18 [prasad]: Asir: Accpet and asign to editors
16:52:36 [prasad]: Chris: Objections?
16:52:39 [prasad]: None
16:52:39 [asir]: ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3545
16:52:39 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - Editors
16:52:54 [prasad]: Paul: Exact text into IRC please
16:53:03 [cferris]: RESOLVED: issue 3545 closed by assigning to editors to address this in the next draft
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16:53:41 [prasad]: RESOLUTION: issue 3545 closed by assigning to editors to address this in the next draft
16:53:56 [plh]: zakim, generate minutes
16:53:56 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'generate minutes', plh
16:54:01 [plh]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:54:01 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html plh
16:55:28 [prasad]: RESOLUTION: 3547 closed (Captured in Asir's amendment to last week's minutes)
16:55:41 [Zakim]: -Frederick_Hirsch
16:56:26 [cferris]: ACTION: William to update 3547 with link to last wek's minutes
16:56:26 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-38 - Update 3547 with link to last wek\'s minutes [on William Henry - due 2006-08-09].
16:56:49 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3551
16:57:40 [asir]: +1 to these editorial changes
16:57:41 [cferris]: prasad describes his issue... purely editorial changes...
16:58:09 [cferris]: s/wek/week/
16:58:16 [Zakim]: +m2
16:58:18 [Zakim]: -Monica
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17:00:02 [umit]: +1 to changes
17:00:18 [prasad]: RESOLUTIOn: Issue 3551 closed and assigned to editors
17:00:19 [asir]: ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3551
17:00:19 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - Editors
17:00:40 [whenry]: Where is the link to the Approved July 27 Minutes ?
17:01:00 [prasad]: RESOLUTION: Issue 3551 closed and assigned to editors
17:01:25 [prasad]: ttp://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3556
17:01:29 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3556
17:01:51 [Zakim]: +Frederick_Hirsch
17:02:42 [prasad]: Ashok: I had comments from Asir and Frederick
17:04:07 [Zakim]: -Frederick_Hirsch
17:04:39 [Yakov]: +1 to WS-Addressing
17:05:23 [prasad]: Asir: I don't like Non-Golas in intro
17:05:27 [cferris]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3556
17:06:04 [prasad]: Chris: Nop consensus. Taking back to list
17:06:11 [prasad]: s/Nop/No/
17:06:37 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3558
17:07:34 [whenry]: zakim, mute me
17:07:34 [Zakim]: whenry should now be muted
17:07:37 [prasad]: s/Non-Golas/Non-Goals/
17:07:59 [ruchith]: zakim, mute me
17:07:59 [Zakim]: ruchith should now be muted
17:08:06 [plh]: zakim, mute me
17:08:06 [Zakim]: Plh should now be muted
17:08:33 [umit]: q+
17:08:41 [prasad]: Ashok: I am suggesting we remove the example
17:08:56 [prasad]: Maryann: One at the end of section?
17:09:00 [prasad]: Ashok: yes
17:10:44 [umit]: q-
17:10:50 [prasad]: Umit: Need better example than remove it
17:11:10 [prasad]: Chris: Agrees with Umit and it is a minor technical issue
17:11:34 [whenry]: Sorry, I got thrown out somehow.
17:12:05 [prasad]: Paul: When people create buzilla entry add a hyperlink to which doc yiou areferring to
17:12:12 [cferris]: paul makes a great suggestion that bugzilla entries be augmented with a link into the published draft to which a particular issue pertains
17:12:16 [Zakim]: +whenry.a
17:12:18 [prasad]: s/yiou/you/
17:13:55 [prasad]: s/areferring/are referring/
17:14:08 [cferris]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3543
17:14:12 [prasad]: Topic: Minor Technical Issues
17:14:28 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3557
17:14:46 [umit]: q+
17:15:29 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3543
17:15:49 [prasad]: Definion of the term "processor" is poorly defined
17:16:20 [prasad]: Paul: In attachment the processor word occurs only in notiational convention
17:16:55 [prasad]: Chris: In both it is only in Notiational Conventions
17:17:19 [TomJ]: I said that we should remove the concept of processor in the spec entirely
17:17:31 [prasad]: Maryann: Dlete the entire section?
17:17:40 [TomJ]: Experience from WSDL working group indicates that is causes more trouble than its worth
17:17:47 [prasad]: PAul: No. Someone needs to propose an amendment
17:18:08 [Yakov]: +1
17:18:32 [prasad]: Asir: Leave it to editors?
17:18:41 [asir]: ACTION: Editors to get rid of the term 'processor' in WS-Policy and WS-PolicyAttachment (issue 3543)
17:18:41 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - Editors
17:18:47 [umit]: Leave it to editors with passive voice
17:19:42 [prasad]: RESOLUTION: issue 3543 closed assigned to editors - change last sentence putting in passive voice, and eliminate term processor
17:20:14 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3557
17:21:05 [Zakim]: -Jong.Lee
17:21:47 [umit]: is it possible to link these emails that Ashok is referring to to the bug?
17:22:29 [plh]: s/ditorial and wording changing issues/Editorial and wording changing issues/
17:24:03 [cferris]: zakim, who is here?
17:24:03 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Plh (muted), Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry (muted), Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, Tony, Paul.Cotton, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, Tom_Jordahl, Yakov, Asir, Glen, Sanka
17:24:07 [Zakim]: ... (muted), umit, ruchith (muted), m2, whenry.a
17:24:08 [Zakim]: Asir has daroth
17:24:09 [Zakim]: On IRC I see danroth, Ashok, trackbot, umit, ruchith, scribe, GlenD, maryann, TomJ, Nadalin, Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, sanka, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Zakim, plh
17:24:11 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3549
17:24:21 [prasad]: Skipped
17:24:40 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3554
17:25:23 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3561
17:26:25 [prasad]: Skipped. Prasad to provide more info / examples
17:26:41 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3561
17:28:48 [plh]: zakim, unmute me
17:28:48 [Zakim]: Plh should no longer be muted
17:29:48 [prasad]: Paul: BEA confirms F2F 16-18th Jan in SFO is
17:30:11 [prasad]: ACTIOn: Jong Lee to provide Felx Logistics infor for F2F of Jan 07
17:30:13 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-39 - Lee to provide Felx Logistics infor for F2F of Jan 07 [on Jong Lee - due 2006-08-09].
17:31:01 [prasad]: Topic: Major Technical Issues
17:31:12 [prasad]: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3564
17:32:42 [prasad]: Umit: describes the issue
17:35:59 [cferris]: q?
17:36:04 [cferris]: ack umit
17:37:10 [Yakov]: I am against b1
17:37:49 [GlenD]: q+
17:37:58 [cferris]: ack gl
17:38:19 [Nadalin]: q+
17:38:28 [prasad]: Glen: We need at least something like Umit's option C
17:38:41 [asir]: q+ danroth
17:38:43 [umit]: q+
17:39:05 [prasad]: Glen: Optiona A seems to venture into negotiation space
17:39:57 [Yakov]: +1 option C
17:40:35 [GlenD]: Personally, I think a simple mechanism like DO/DONT WILL/WONT (as per Telnet) isn't hard to do, and could be very useful... but am unsure about scope.
17:40:42 [cferris]: ack nad
17:41:09 [prasad]: Dan: Umits description seems to mix alternatives and optionality
17:43:06 [asir]: s/Dan/Nadalin/
17:43:48 [cferris]: ack dan
17:44:33 [maryann]: so that's your second case
17:44:44 [prasad]: Dan: seeks clarification on what is meant by optional assertion @optional on it?
17:44:47 [prasad]: Umit: Yes
17:45:01 [maryann]: q
17:45:07 [maryann]: oops
17:45:11 [maryann]: q+
17:45:14 [cferris]: q+ maryann
17:47:06 [prasad]: s/optional assertion/optional assertion. Assertion with/
17:47:21 [Nadalin]: q+
17:48:31 [cferris]: ack umit
17:48:41 [umit]: q-
17:48:47 [cferris]: ack ma
17:50:51 [umit]: Can everyone speaking send the comments that made to the list?
17:50:59 [umit]: We are not capturing the discussion
17:51:03 [umit]: I will create a thread
17:51:08 [Nadalin]: ok
17:51:20 [prasad]: Chris: Out of time. Discussion to continue on the list / bugzilla
17:52:11 [prasad]: Topic: IPR obligations
17:52:18 [plh]: http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/39293/status
17:52:26 [cferris]: ack nad
17:53:13 [plh]: http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-Exclusion
17:54:18 [umit]: q+
17:56:22 [plh]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-cfe/
17:57:15 [cferris]: ack umit
17:57:56 [prasad]: Paul: It gives people lot of time to resign from WG without impacting the effort
17:58:04 [prasad]: PLH: Yes
17:59:55 [umit]: +1 to PaulC
18:00:17 [prasad]: Paul: Can we have WG notified that Clock on the Exclusions has started
18:00:47 [Zakim]: -Glen
18:00:53 [Zakim]: -Tom_Jordahl
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18:01:11 [prasad]: ACTION: PLH to deternine with IAN Jacobs if fesible to send an email to WG to start membership review period
18:01:11 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - PLH
18:01:22 [Zakim]: -Ashok_Malhotra
18:01:25 [Zakim]: -Yakov
18:01:26 [Zakim]: -Chris_Ferris
18:01:26 [Zakim]: -Asir
18:01:27 [Zakim]: -Tony
18:01:28 [Zakim]: -Plh
18:01:29 [Zakim]: -m2
18:01:30 [Zakim]: -Paul.Cotton
18:01:31 [Zakim]: -whenry.a
18:01:34 [Zakim]: -RSalz
18:01:34 [prasad]: s/deternine/determine/
18:01:38 [Zakim]: -umit
18:01:40 [Zakim]: -JCrump
18:01:42 [Zakim]: -Fabian
18:01:44 [Zakim]: -Sanka
18:01:46 [Zakim]: -ruchith
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18:01:58 [prasad]: rrsagnet, make logs public
18:02:14 [cferris]: rrsagent, make logs public
18:04:38 [prasad]: zakim, generate minutes
18:04:38 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'generate minutes', prasad
18:05:07 [prasad]: rrsagent, generate minutes
18:05:07 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html prasad
18:06:18 [Zakim]: -Prasad_Yendluri
18:11:19 [Zakim]: disconnecting the lone participant, whenry, in WS_Policy()12:00PM
18:11:20 [Zakim]: WS_Policy()12:00PM has ended
18:11:24 [Zakim]: Attendees were Plh, +1.508.628.aaaa, Chris_Ferris, Jong.Lee, Ashok_Malhotra, Dale, Fabian, whenry, Yakov, Prasad_Yendluri, Sanka, JCrump, RSalz, Paul.Cotton, Tom_Jordahl, Monica,
18:11:27 [Zakim]: ... Tony, Glen, daroth, umit, ruchith, Frederick_Hirsch, m2
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19:53:55 [plh]: rrsagent, bye
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-actions.rdf :
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: editors to implement the resolution for issue 3562. [1]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-19-40
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: PLH to amend the minutes per Asir's minutes [2]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-19-52
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: PLH to check email notification of publication of WG (obligation) [3]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-26-44
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Chris to ck on separate tracker for Editorial AIs [4]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-37-51
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3545 [5]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-52-39-1
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: William to update 3547 with link to last wek's minutes [6]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-56-26
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3551 [7]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T17-00-19
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Editors to get rid of the term 'processor' in WS-Policy and WS-PolicyAttachment (issue 3543) [8]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T17-18-41
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Jong Lee to provide Felx Logistics infor for F2F of Jan 07 [9]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-11
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: PLH to deternine with IAN Jacobs if fesible to send an email to WG to start membership review period [10]
19:53:55 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T18-01-11
19:53:59 [plh]: zakim, bye
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