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15:48:39 <plh> Meeting: Web Services Policy
15:48:43 <plh> Chair: Chris
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15:52:14 <plh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html
15:52:43 <plh> Previous minutes: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/26-ws-policy-minutes.html
15:53:52 <plh> Regrets: Felix, Seumas, Charlton
15:54:13 <plh> rrsagent, make logs member-visible
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15:54:35 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:54:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html plh
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16:00:00 <Zakim> Attendees were 
16:00:29 <Zakim> WS_Policy()12:00PM has now started
16:00:30 <Zakim> +Plh
16:00:46 <Zakim> + +1.508.628.aaaa
16:00:53 <whenry> Having trouble getting in the conf bridge
16:00:55 <JCrump> JCrump has joined #ws-policy
16:00:58 <Zakim> +Chris_Ferris
16:01:00 <Zakim> +??P4
16:01:02 <Zakim> - +1.508.628.aaaa
16:01:06 <Zakim> + +1.719.387.aabb
16:01:11 <whenry> In now
16:01:11 <Zakim> + +1.415.402.aacc
16:01:25 <dmoberg> dmoberg has joined #ws-policy
16:01:29 <whenry> zakim, +1 719.387.aabb is me
16:01:30 <Zakim> I don't understand '+1 719.387.aabb is me', whenry
16:02:00 <Zakim> + +1.508.628.aadd
16:02:03 <ruchith> ruchith has joined #ws-policy
16:02:04 <plh> zakim,  +1.415.402.aacc is Jong.Lee
16:02:04 <Zakim> +Jong.Lee; got it
16:02:07 <sanka> sanka has joined #ws-policy
16:02:20 <Zakim> +??P13
16:02:25 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:26 <Fabian> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:27 <whenry> zakim, +1.719.378.aabb iis whenry
16:02:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, ??P4, +1.719.387.aabb, Jong.Lee, +1.508.628.aadd, ??P13, Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:29 <Zakim> I don't understand '+1.719.378.aabb iis whenry', whenry
16:02:32 <plh> zakim, ??p13 is Dale
16:02:32 <Zakim> +Dale; got it
16:02:37 <Zakim> + +1.781.999.aaee
16:02:40 <Fabian> zakim, ??P4 is Fabian
16:02:40 <Zakim> +Fabian; got it
16:02:50 <Zakim> +[IBM]
16:02:57 <whenry> zakim, +1.719.378.aabb is whenry
16:02:57 <Zakim> sorry, whenry, I do not recognize a party named '+1.719.378.aabb'
16:02:58 <Zakim> + +1.519.271.aaff
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16:03:10 <JCrump> zakim, +1.781.999.aabb is me
16:03:10 <Zakim> sorry, JCrump, I do not recognize a party named '+1.781.999.aabb'
16:03:14 <whenry> zakim, +1.719.387.aabb iis whenry
16:03:14 <Zakim> I don't understand '+1.719.387.aabb iis whenry', whenry
16:03:24 <Ashok> Ashok has joined #ws-policy
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16:03:31 <whenry> zakim, +1.719.387.aabb is whenry
16:03:31 <Zakim> +whenry; got it
16:03:43 <plh> zakim, who's here?
16:03:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, +1.508.628.aadd, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.781.999.aaee, [IBM], +1.519.271.aaff
16:03:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:03:48 <Zakim> + +1.617.314.aagg
16:03:54 <JCrump> zakim, +1.781.999.aabb is JCrump
16:03:54 <Zakim> sorry, JCrump, I do not recognize a party named '+1.781.999.aabb'
16:04:02 <asir> asir has joined #ws-policy
16:04:07 <JCrump> grr
16:04:10 <cferris> zakim, +1.508.628.aadd is Yakov
16:04:10 <Zakim> +Yakov; got it
16:04:10 <Yakov> Yakov has joined #ws-policy
16:04:18 <cferris> zakim, who is here?
16:04:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Yakov, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.781.999.aaee, [IBM], +1.519.271.aaff, +1.617.314.aagg
16:04:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:04:22 <Zakim> +Prasad_Yendluri
16:04:31 <sanka> zakim, +1.617.314.aagg is Sanka
16:04:31 <Zakim> +Sanka; got it
16:04:38 <Zakim> -Yakov
16:04:43 <JCrump> zakim, +1.781.999.aaee is JCrump
16:04:43 <Zakim> +JCrump; got it
16:04:47 <Zakim> +RSalz
16:04:51 <cferris> zakim, +IBM is Tony
16:04:51 <Zakim> sorry, cferris, I do not recognize a party named '+IBM'
16:04:56 <Zakim> + +1.208.284.aahh
16:04:59 <JCrump> zakim, who is here?
16:05:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, [IBM], +1.519.271.aaff, Sanka, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, +1.208.284.aahh
16:05:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:05:11 <plh> zakim, +1.519.271.aaff is Paul.Cotton
16:05:13 <cferris> Zakim, [IBM} is Tony
16:05:17 <Nadalin> Nadalin has joined #ws-policy
16:05:18 <Zakim> +Paul.Cotton; got it
16:05:22 <Zakim> sorry, cferris, I do not recognize a party named '[IBM}'
16:05:28 <Zakim> +Tom_Jordahl
16:05:32 <Zakim> +Yakov
16:05:43 <TomJ> TomJ has joined #ws-policy
16:05:44 <Zakim> +??P28
16:05:51 <plh> zakim, +1.208.284.aahh is Monica
16:05:52 <Yakov> Yakov 508-628-...
16:05:53 <maryann> maryann has joined #ws-policy
16:05:54 <Zakim> +Monica; got it
16:06:02 <cferris> zakim, who is here?
16:06:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, [IBM], Paul.Cotton, Sanka, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, Monica, Tom_Jordahl, Yakov, ??P28
16:06:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see maryann, TomJ, Nadalin, Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, ruchith, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:06:37 <Fabian> zakim, [IBM] is Tony
16:06:37 <Zakim> +Tony; got it
16:07:25 <Nadalin> wave back
16:07:33 <Zakim> +Glen
16:07:53 <GlenD> GlenD has joined #ws-policy
16:08:05 <plh> zakim, who's here?
16:08:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Plh, Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry, Jong.Lee, Dale, Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, Tony, Paul.Cotton, Sanka, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, Monica, Tom_Jordahl, Yakov, ??P28,
16:08:08 <Zakim> ... Glen
16:08:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see GlenD, maryann, TomJ, Nadalin, Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, Ashok, sanka, dmoberg, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Fabian, Zakim, plh
16:08:20 <plh> zakim, ??p28 is Asir
16:08:20 <Zakim> +Asir; got it
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16:08:45 <Zakim> -Sanka
16:09:36 <Zakim> +Sanka
16:10:44 <Zakim> -Sanka
16:11:05 <plh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html
16:11:26 <plh> Scribe: prasad
16:11:38 <Zakim> +Sanka
16:11:41 <prasad> Topic: Agenda review
16:13:24 <prasad> Chris: Include discussion of primer inserted after the AI discussion
16:15:18 <prasad> Ashok: I requested agenda item discussion of how many messages you can have .. resulting AI in Austin
16:15:25 <plh> zakim, who's making noise?
16:15:33 <prasad> s/AI/from AI/
16:15:36 <Zakim> plh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JCrump (4%), Chris_Ferris (74%), Ashok_Malhotra (51%), Sanka (9%), Prasad_Yendluri (24%)
16:15:52 <plh> zakim, mute prasad
16:15:52 <Zakim> Prasad_Yendluri should now be muted
16:16:06 <plh> zakim, unmute prasad
16:16:06 <Zakim> Prasad_Yendluri should no longer be muted
16:16:12 <GlenD> zakim, mute sanka
16:16:12 <Zakim> Sanka should now be muted
16:16:29 <Paulc> amendments to minutes from Asir: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0006.html
16:16:38 <Ashok> Here is the mail I just spoke abt: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Jul/0093.html
16:16:43 <prasad> Topic: Approval of last telcon minutes
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16:17:24 <sanka> thats fine ..
16:18:12 <sanka> I'll unmute if I want to ask a question ..
16:19:30 <prasad> Chris: Amend the minutes to record the AIs closed
16:19:40 <asir> ACTION: editors to implement the resolution for issue 3562.
16:19:52 <prasad> ACTION: PLH to amend the minutes per Asir's minutes
16:20:16 <prasad> s/minutes/mail/
16:20:33 <prasad> Minutes approved with amendment
16:20:42 <prasad> Topic: F2F meeting
16:22:58 <prasad> Chris: Paul and I think best to go with Sonic offer in Nov
16:23:31 <prasad> Chris: Go with BEA in SFO for Jan
16:23:33 <GlenD> +1
16:24:16 <prasad> Jan 16-18th tentative plan
16:24:58 <prasad> Chris: Confirmed Nov F2F at Sonic
16:25:09 <prasad> Topic: WG Draft
16:25:35 <prasad> Chris: Congrats to WG on publicatin of WG Draft
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16:26:12 <prasad> s/publicatin/publication/
16:26:44 <prasad> ACTION: PLH to check email notification of publication of WG (obligation)
16:27:02 <prasad> s/check/check on/
16:27:28 <prasad> Topic: WG Tools
16:28:11 <prasad> Chris: Major change new issues submitted into Bugzilla
16:29:24 <prasad> Chris: All bugs must be entered into bugzilla. Felix sent out FAQ, I updated FAQ
16:31:05 <Zakim> +??P0
16:31:18 <prasad> Chris: Owner responsible shephearding the issue
16:31:23 <umit> zakim, ??P0 is umit
16:31:23 <Zakim> +umit; got it
16:31:34 <prasad> q+
16:31:44 <umit> q+
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16:32:05 <cferris> ack pr
16:32:50 <asir> q+
16:32:55 <Zakim> + +1.617.933.aaii
16:33:20 <prasad> Prasad: Are we doing both sending NEW ISSUE to list as well as bugzilla?
16:33:33 <cferris> ack um
16:33:37 <ruchith> zakim, +1.617.933.aaii is me 
16:33:37 <Zakim> +ruchith; got it
16:34:10 <prasad> Chris: No, Bugzilla should send a notification to list. Currently not working
16:34:20 <prasad> Umit: Clarification on issue owner
16:34:31 <prasad> Chris: Owner is admin of the issue
16:34:36 <cferris> ack asir
16:35:07 <prasad> Asir: Some of the issues all links are not in Bugzilla.
16:35:21 <prasad> Asir: Tile of the issue changes in Buzilla notification
16:35:31 <prasad> s/Tile/Title/
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16:36:39 <prasad> Chris: Owners include link to original issue in Bugzilla
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16:37:06 <prasad> Asir: None of the Editorial AIs are in Tracker
16:37:33 <prasad> AI: Chris to ck on separate tracker for Editorial AIs
16:37:51 <prasad> ACTION: Chris to ck on separate tracker for Editorial AIs
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16:38:42 <trackbot> Tracking ISSUEs and ACTIONs from http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/
16:38:42 <prasad> Topic: Action Items Review
16:39:35 <prasad> AI 2, * done
16:39:46 <prasad> AIs 2 and 8 DONE
16:40:27 <prasad> AIs 10, 11 DONE
16:41:42 <prasad> AIs 14, 18 DONE
16:42:44 <prasad> AIs 21 DONE
16:43:26 <prasad> AIs 22 and 25 CLOSED
16:43:40 <prasad> AI 23 and 26 are DUPLICATES
16:44:15 <prasad> AI 23 and 26 CLOSED
16:44:26 <umit> Chris, Action 12 and 13 are duplicated
16:44:36 <umit> that is why I was confused, sorry about that. 
16:44:45 <prasad> AI 29 and 31 CLOSEE
16:44:46 <umit> One of them should be closed
16:44:52 <prasad> S/CLOSEE/CLOSED/
16:45:03 <prasad> AI 30 CLOSED
16:45:35 <Zakim> -Dale
16:46:02 <prasad> AI 13 CLOSED (duplicate of 12)
16:46:14 <prasad> AI 1 CLOSED
16:47:00 <prasad> Topic: Primer outline
16:47:34 <prasad> Marianne: Walks through the outline (Umit and Marianne had offline discussions)
16:48:27 <prasad> s/Marianne/Maryann/g
16:48:52 <Zakim> +Frederick_Hirsch
16:49:42 <cferris> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0009.html
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16:50:43 <prasad> Topic: ditorial and wording changing issues
16:50:57 <cferris> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3545
16:51:07 <prasad> s/diorial/Editorial/
16:51:51 <asir> q+
16:52:00 <cferris> ack asir
16:52:18 <prasad> Asir: Accpet and asign to editors
16:52:36 <prasad> Chris: Objections?
16:52:39 <prasad> None
16:52:39 <asir> ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3545
16:52:39 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Editors
16:52:54 <prasad> Paul: Exact text into IRC please
16:53:03 <cferris> RESOLVED: issue 3545 closed by assigning to editors to address this in the next draft
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16:53:41 <prasad> RESOLUTION: issue 3545 closed by assigning to editors to address this in the next draft
16:53:56 <plh> zakim, generate minutes
16:53:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'generate minutes', plh
16:54:01 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:54:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html plh
16:55:28 <prasad> RESOLUTION: 3547 closed (Captured in Asir's amendment to last week's minutes)
16:55:41 <Zakim> -Frederick_Hirsch
16:56:26 <cferris> ACTION: William to update 3547 with link to last wek's minutes
16:56:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Update 3547 with link to last wek\'s minutes [on William Henry - due 2006-08-09].
16:56:49 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3551 
16:57:40 <asir> +1 to these editorial changes
16:57:41 <cferris> prasad describes his issue... purely editorial changes... 
16:58:09 <cferris> s/wek/week/
16:58:16 <Zakim> +m2
16:58:18 <Zakim> -Monica
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17:00:02 <umit> +1 to changes
17:00:18 <prasad> RESOLUTIOn: Issue 3551 closed and assigned to editors
17:00:19 <asir> ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3551
17:00:19 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Editors
17:00:40 <whenry> Where is the link to the Approved July 27 Minutes ?
17:01:00 <prasad> RESOLUTION: Issue 3551 closed and assigned to editors
17:01:25 <prasad> ttp://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3556 
17:01:29 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3556 
17:01:51 <Zakim> +Frederick_Hirsch
17:02:42 <prasad> Ashok: I had comments from Asir and Frederick
17:04:07 <Zakim> -Frederick_Hirsch
17:04:39 <Yakov> +1 to WS-Addressing
17:05:23 <prasad> Asir: I don't like Non-Golas in intro
17:05:27 <cferris> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3556
17:06:04 <prasad> Chris: Nop consensus. Taking back to list
17:06:11 <prasad> s/Nop/No/
17:06:37 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3558
17:07:34 <whenry> zakim, mute me
17:07:34 <Zakim> whenry should now be muted
17:07:37 <prasad> s/Non-Golas/Non-Goals/
17:07:59 <ruchith> zakim, mute me
17:07:59 <Zakim> ruchith should now be muted
17:08:06 <plh> zakim, mute me
17:08:06 <Zakim> Plh should now be muted
17:08:33 <umit> q+
17:08:41 <prasad> Ashok: I am suggesting we remove the example
17:08:56 <prasad> Maryann: One at the end of section?
17:09:00 <prasad> Ashok: yes
17:10:44 <umit> q-
17:10:50 <prasad> Umit: Need better example than remove it
17:11:10 <prasad> Chris: Agrees with Umit and it is a minor technical issue
17:11:34 <whenry> Sorry, I got thrown out somehow.
17:12:05 <prasad> Paul: When people create buzilla entry add a hyperlink to which doc yiou areferring to
17:12:12 <cferris> paul makes a great suggestion that bugzilla entries be augmented with a link into the published draft to which a particular issue pertains
17:12:16 <Zakim> +whenry.a
17:12:18 <prasad> s/yiou/you/
17:13:55 <prasad> s/areferring/are referring/
17:14:08 <cferris> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3543
17:14:12 <prasad> Topic: Minor Technical Issues
17:14:28 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3557
17:14:46 <umit> q+
17:15:29 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3543 
17:15:49 <prasad> Definion of the term "processor" is poorly defined 
17:16:20 <prasad> Paul: In attachment the processor word occurs only in notiational convention
17:16:55 <prasad> Chris: In both it is only in Notiational Conventions
17:17:19 <TomJ> I said that we should remove the concept of processor in the spec entirely
17:17:31 <prasad> Maryann: Dlete the entire section?
17:17:40 <TomJ> Experience from WSDL working group indicates that is causes more trouble than its worth
17:17:47 <prasad> PAul: No. Someone needs to propose an amendment
17:18:08 <Yakov> +1
17:18:32 <prasad> Asir: Leave it to editors?
17:18:41 <asir> ACTION: Editors to get rid of the term 'processor' in WS-Policy and WS-PolicyAttachment (issue 3543)
17:18:41 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Editors
17:18:47 <umit> Leave it to editors with passive voice
17:19:42 <prasad> RESOLUTION: issue 3543 closed assigned to editors - change last sentence putting in passive voice, and eliminate term processor
17:20:14 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3557
17:21:05 <Zakim> -Jong.Lee
17:21:47 <umit> is it possible to link these emails that Ashok  is referring to to the bug? 
17:22:29 <plh> s/ditorial and wording changing issues/Editorial and wording changing issues/
17:24:03 <cferris> zakim, who is here?
17:24:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Plh (muted), Chris_Ferris, Fabian, whenry (muted), Ashok_Malhotra, JCrump, Tony, Paul.Cotton, Prasad_Yendluri, RSalz, Tom_Jordahl, Yakov, Asir, Glen, Sanka
17:24:07 <Zakim> ... (muted), umit, ruchith (muted), m2, whenry.a
17:24:08 <Zakim> Asir has daroth
17:24:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see danroth, Ashok, trackbot, umit, ruchith, scribe, GlenD, maryann, TomJ, Nadalin, Yakov, asir, prasad, Paulc, sanka, JCrump, cferris, whenry, RRSAgent, Zakim, plh
17:24:11 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3549 
17:24:21 <prasad> Skipped 
17:24:40 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3554
17:25:23 <prasad>  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3561
17:26:25 <prasad> Skipped. Prasad to provide more info / examples
17:26:41 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3561 
17:28:48 <plh> zakim, unmute me
17:28:48 <Zakim> Plh should no longer be muted
17:29:48 <prasad> Paul: BEA confirms F2F 16-18th Jan in SFO is 
17:30:11 <prasad> ACTIOn: Jong Lee to provide Felx Logistics infor for F2F of Jan 07
17:30:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Lee to provide Felx Logistics infor for F2F of Jan 07 [on Jong Lee - due 2006-08-09].
17:31:01 <prasad> Topic: Major Technical Issues 
17:31:12 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3564
17:32:42 <prasad> Umit: describes the issue
17:35:59 <cferris> q?
17:36:04 <cferris> ack umit
17:37:10 <Yakov> I am against b1
17:37:49 <GlenD> q+
17:37:58 <cferris> ack gl
17:38:19 <Nadalin> q+
17:38:28 <prasad> Glen: We need at least something like Umit's option C
17:38:41 <asir> q+ danroth
17:38:43 <umit> q+
17:39:05 <prasad> Glen: Optiona A seems to venture into negotiation space
17:39:57 <Yakov> +1 option C
17:40:35 <GlenD> Personally, I think a simple mechanism like DO/DONT WILL/WONT (as per Telnet) isn't hard to do, and could be very useful... but am unsure about scope.
17:40:42 <cferris> ack nad
17:41:09 <prasad> Dan: Umits description seems to mix alternatives and optionality
17:43:06 <asir> s/Dan/Nadalin/
17:43:48 <cferris> ack dan
17:44:33 <maryann> so that's your second case
17:44:44 <prasad> Dan: seeks clarification on what is meant by optional assertion @optional on it?
17:44:47 <prasad> Umit: Yes
17:45:01 <maryann> q
17:45:07 <maryann> oops
17:45:11 <maryann> q+
17:45:14 <cferris> q+ maryann
17:47:06 <prasad> s/optional assertion/optional assertion. Assertion with/
17:47:21 <Nadalin> q+
17:48:31 <cferris> ack umit
17:48:41 <umit> q-
17:48:47 <cferris> ack ma
17:50:51 <umit> Can everyone speaking send the comments that made to the list? 
17:50:59 <umit> We are not capturing the discussion
17:51:03 <umit> I will create a thread 
17:51:08 <Nadalin> ok
17:51:20 <prasad> Chris: Out of time. Discussion to continue on the list / bugzilla
17:52:11 <prasad> Topic: IPR obligations
17:52:18 <plh> http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/39293/status
17:52:26 <cferris> ack nad
17:53:13 <plh> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-Exclusion
17:54:18 <umit> q+
17:56:22 <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-cfe/
17:57:15 <cferris> ack umit
17:57:56 <prasad> Paul: It gives people lot of time to resign from WG without impacting the effort
17:58:04 <prasad> PLH: Yes
17:59:55 <umit> +1 to PaulC
18:00:17 <prasad> Paul: Can we have WG notified that Clock on the Exclusions has started
18:00:47 <Zakim> -Glen
18:00:53 <Zakim> -Tom_Jordahl
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18:01:11 <prasad> ACTION: PLH to deternine with IAN Jacobs if fesible to send an email to WG to start membership review period
18:01:11 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - PLH
18:01:22 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
18:01:25 <Zakim> -Yakov
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18:01:27 <Zakim> -Tony
18:01:28 <Zakim> -Plh
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18:01:34 <prasad> s/deternine/determine/
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18:01:58 <prasad> rrsagnet, make logs public
18:02:14 <cferris> rrsagent, make logs public
18:04:38 <prasad> zakim, generate minutes
18:04:38 <Zakim> I don't understand 'generate minutes', prasad
18:05:07 <prasad> rrsagent, generate minutes
18:05:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html prasad
18:06:18 <Zakim> -Prasad_Yendluri
18:11:19 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, whenry, in WS_Policy()12:00PM
18:11:20 <Zakim> WS_Policy()12:00PM has ended
18:11:24 <Zakim> Attendees were Plh, +1.508.628.aaaa, Chris_Ferris, Jong.Lee, Ashok_Malhotra, Dale, Fabian, whenry, Yakov, Prasad_Yendluri, Sanka, JCrump, RSalz, Paul.Cotton, Tom_Jordahl, Monica,
18:11:27 <Zakim> ... Tony, Glen, daroth, umit, ruchith, Frederick_Hirsch, m2
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19:53:55 <plh> rrsagent, bye
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-actions.rdf :
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: editors to implement the resolution for issue 3562. [1]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-19-40
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: PLH to amend the minutes per Asir's minutes [2]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-19-52
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: PLH to check email notification of publication of WG (obligation) [3]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-26-44
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Chris to ck on separate tracker for Editorial AIs [4]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-37-51
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3545 [5]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-52-39-1
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: William to update 3547 with link to last wek's minutes [6]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T16-56-26
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editors to implement the resolution for issue 3551 [7]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T17-00-19
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editors to get rid of the term 'processor' in WS-Policy and WS-PolicyAttachment (issue 3543) [8]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T17-18-41
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jong Lee to provide Felx Logistics infor for F2F of Jan 07 [9]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-11
19:53:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: PLH to deternine with IAN Jacobs if fesible to send an email to WG to start membership review period [10]
19:53:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-irc#T18-01-11
19:53:59 <plh> zakim, bye
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