IRC log of tsdtf on 2006-08-02
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-irc
- 12:11:23 [Christophe]
- Zakim, list
- 12:11:23 [Zakim]
- I see Team_W3M()8:00AM active
- 12:11:24 [Zakim]
- also scheduled at this time is RWC_WAF()8:00AM
- 12:13:22 [Christophe]
- zakim, this will be tsdtf
- 12:13:22 [Zakim]
- ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM scheduled to start in 47 minutes
- 12:13:36 [Christophe]
- zakim, ping me in 40 minutes
- 12:13:36 [Zakim]
- ok, Christophe
- 12:16:04 [Christophe]
- agenda+ Introduction of new participants
- 12:16:16 [Christophe]
- agenda+ Working procedure for development of test samples
- 12:16:25 [Christophe]
- agenda+ Tools for storage of samples and test metadata
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- rrsagent, off
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- Meeting: TSD TF Weekly Teleconference
- 12:23:48 [Christophe]
- Chair: Carlos, Christophe
- 12:24:52 [Christophe]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Aug/0000.html
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- Regrets: Diane, Gez
- 12:25:50 [Christophe]
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- +Tim_Boland
- 13:12:07 [Christophe]
- Scribe: Christophe
- 13:12:22 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Introduction of new participants" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:13:55 [Christophe]
- SH: works with WebAIM; working on evaluation tool 'WAVE'; evaluation of accessible content
- 13:14:45 [Christophe]
- CS: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (Belgium); BenToWeb (EU project); WCAG WG
- 13:15:11 [Christophe]
- SH: University Linz (Austria); BenToWeb; ERT WG
- 13:15:27 [Christophe]
- EV: University of the Aegean (Greece); BenToWeb; ...
- 13:15:44 [Christophe]
- TB: NIST; QA IG, WCAG WG, ...
- 13:16:11 [Christophe]
- CV: Fraunhofer (Germany); BenToWeb co-ordinator; ERT WG
- 13:16:15 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 2
- 13:16:15 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Working procedure for development of test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:18:12 [Christophe]
- Version control system or something else (?) to store test suite and metadata, and to track changes.
- 13:20:27 [Christophe]
- QA IG/WG resources? Especially methodology and processes.
- 13:21:23 [Christophe]
- QA Note on Test Metadata: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-test-metadata-20050914/
- 13:21:51 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
- 13:21:51 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Tools for storage of samples and test metadata" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:22:25 [Christophe]
- Scribe: Sandor
- 13:24:27 [Sandor]
- CS: TCDL description - formal metadata / technologies / test case / rules
- 13:25:09 [Sandor]
- CS: formal metadata: contains formal adminstrative metadata
- 13:25:44 [Tim]
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- 13:25:52 [Tim]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-test-metadata-20050914/
- 13:26:00 [Tim]
- Test Metadata Document
- 13:26:15 [Sandor]
- CS: technologies - contains information about technologies used / baseline support
- 13:26:40 [Sandor]
- CS: test case - describes what is necessary for the evaluation of a TC
- 13:26:41 [Tim]
- http://esw.w3.org/topic/QA
- 13:26:52 [Tim]
- wiki section on "Building a Test Suite"
- 13:27:36 [Tim]
- http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2005/01/test-faq
- 13:27:47 [Sandor]
- CS: test case may be evaluated by different groups - experts / end user
- 13:27:59 [Tim]
- W3C QA Test Development FAQ Document
- 13:28:50 [Sandor]
- CS: description - written desription of the test
- 13:30:08 [Sandor]
- CS: userGuidance - gives further information about how the tes should be performed
- 13:31:11 [Sandor]
- CS: requiredTests - for test modes and one or more test sceanrios
- 13:31:43 [Sandor]
- CS: rules - contains the rules tested by a test case
- 13:32:26 [Sandor]
- CS: the rules are referece a rule ID in a Ruleset XML file
- 13:32:39 [Tim]
- http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Test/HTML401/current/htmltestdocumentation.html#testsuiteprinciples
- 13:32:52 [Tim]
- HTML4 Test Suite Principles
- 13:33:15 [Sandor]
- CS: namespaceMapping - important for test cases based on test files that use XML-based techs
- 13:34:27 [Sandor]
- SA: map how an evaluation may be performed by a machine
- 13:35:04 [Sandor]
- TB: modes for evaluation by humans?
- 13:35:52 [Sandor]
- CS: special vocab in TCDL - which defines questions / answertypes for end user testings
- 13:36:49 [Sandor]
- CV: first target was automatic evaluation of test cases - have some test files for end-user evaluation
- 13:38:53 [Sandor]
- SA: how do BTW TCDL correlate to QA documents for testings
- 13:40:15 [carlos]
- http://bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
- 13:40:24 [Sandor]
- CS: example files: http://www.bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
- 13:42:30 [ShaneA]
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- CV: updating the test suite, by now state July 05
- 13:45:25 [carlos]
- Shane: link to our TS http://bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
- 13:47:14 [Sandor]
- CV: first draft of TCDL - starting point for further work / RDF version?
- 13:48:05 [Sandor]
- SA: RDF version of test case schema exists / QA
- 13:50:28 [Christophe]
- s/SA: RDF/TB: RDF/
- 13:51:26 [Tim]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2006Mar/0023.html
- 13:51:49 [Tim]
- Test Metadata in RDF - QAIG
- 13:54:13 [Sandor]
- CV: still activity in the QA IG
- 13:54:46 [Christophe]
- Draft RDF Schema is at http://www.w3.org/2006/03/test-description.rdf
- 13:55:19 [Sandor]
- action: TB: please, contact dominique whether there is interesset for RDF test metadata
- 13:55:50 [Christophe]
- s/interesset/interest/
- 13:57:33 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
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- -Vangelis
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- -Shane_Anderson
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Sandor_Herramhof
- 13:58:02 [Vangelis]
- Vangelis has left #tsdtf
- 13:58:05 [Christophe]
- zakim, make log world
- 13:58:05 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'make log world', Christophe
- 13:58:14 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, make log world
- 13:58:26 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, pointer?
- 13:58:26 [RRSAgent]
- See http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-irc#T13-58-26
- 13:58:38 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 13:58:38 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
- 13:58:55 [Zakim]
- -CarlosV
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- WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM has ended
- 13:58:57 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Christophe_Strobbe, CarlosV, Sandor_Herramhof, +30228109aaaa, Vangelis, Shane_Anderson, Tim_Boland
- 13:59:11 [Tim]
- Tim has left #tsdtf
- 13:59:23 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, make log world
- 13:59:27 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 13:59:27 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
- 13:59:45 [carlos]
- Christophe,please, post the minutes to the list ;-)
- 14:01:40 [Christophe]
- Regrets: Shadi, Gez, Diane
- 14:02:11 [Christophe]
- Present: Carlos, Christophe, Sandor, Vangelis, Shane, Tim
- 14:02:15 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, make log world
- 14:02:19 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 14:02:19 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
- 14:02:40 [Christophe]
- Regrets: Shadi, Gez, Diane, Chris_R
- 14:02:42 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, make log world
- 14:02:44 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 14:02:44 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
- 14:04:44 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, bye
- 14:04:44 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
- 14:04:44 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: TB: please, contact dominique whether there is interesset for RDF test metadata [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-irc#T13-55-19