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12:11:23 <Christophe> Zakim, list
12:11:23 <Zakim> I see Team_W3M()8:00AM active
12:11:24 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time is RWC_WAF()8:00AM
12:13:22 <Christophe> zakim, this will be tsdtf
12:13:22 <Zakim> ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM scheduled to start in 47 minutes
12:13:36 <Christophe> zakim, ping me in 40 minutes
12:13:36 <Zakim> ok, Christophe
12:16:04 <Christophe> agenda+ Introduction of new participants
12:16:16 <Christophe> agenda+ Working procedure for development of test samples
12:16:25 <Christophe> agenda+ Tools for storage of samples and test metadata
12:20:18 <Christophe> rrsagent, off
12:23:03 <Christophe> Meeting: TSD TF Weekly Teleconference
12:23:48 <Christophe> Chair: Carlos, Christophe
12:24:52 <Christophe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Aug/0000.html
12:25:45 <Christophe> Regrets: Diane, Gez
12:25:50 <Christophe> rrsagent, off
13:11:33 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
13:12:07 <Christophe> Scribe: Christophe
13:12:22 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 1
13:12:22 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Introduction of new participants" taken up [from Christophe]
13:13:55 <Christophe> SH: works with WebAIM; working on evaluation tool 'WAVE'; evaluation of accessible content
13:14:45 <Christophe> CS: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (Belgium); BenToWeb (EU project); WCAG WG
13:15:11 <Christophe> SH: University Linz (Austria); BenToWeb; ERT WG
13:15:27 <Christophe> EV: University of the Aegean (Greece); BenToWeb; ...
13:15:44 <Christophe> TB: NIST; QA IG, WCAG WG, ...
13:16:11 <Christophe> CV: Fraunhofer (Germany); BenToWeb co-ordinator; ERT WG
13:16:15 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 2
13:16:15 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Working procedure for development of test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
13:18:12 <Christophe> Version control system or something else (?) to store test suite and metadata, and to track changes.
13:20:27 <Christophe> QA IG/WG resources? Especially methodology and processes.
13:21:23 <Christophe> QA Note on Test Metadata: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-test-metadata-20050914/
13:21:51 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 3
13:21:51 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Tools for storage of samples and test metadata" taken up [from Christophe]
13:22:25 <Christophe> Scribe: Sandor
13:24:27 <Sandor> CS: TCDL description - formal metadata / technologies / test case / rules
13:25:09 <Sandor> CS: formal metadata: contains formal adminstrative metadata
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13:25:52 <Tim> http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-test-metadata-20050914/
13:26:00 <Tim> Test Metadata Document
13:26:15 <Sandor> CS: technologies - contains information about technologies used / baseline support 
13:26:40 <Sandor> CS: test case - describes what is necessary for the evaluation of a TC
13:26:41 <Tim> http://esw.w3.org/topic/QA
13:26:52 <Tim> wiki section on "Building a Test Suite"
13:27:36 <Tim> http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2005/01/test-faq
13:27:47 <Sandor> CS: test case may be evaluated by different groups - experts / end user  
13:27:59 <Tim> W3C QA Test Development FAQ Document
13:28:50 <Sandor> CS:  description - written desription of the test
13:30:08 <Sandor> CS: userGuidance - gives further information about how the tes should be performed
13:31:11 <Sandor> CS: requiredTests - for test modes and one or more test sceanrios
13:31:43 <Sandor> CS: rules - contains the rules tested by a test case
13:32:26 <Sandor> CS: the rules are referece a rule ID in a Ruleset XML file
13:32:39 <Tim> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Test/HTML401/current/htmltestdocumentation.html#testsuiteprinciples
13:32:52 <Tim> HTML4 Test Suite Principles
13:33:15 <Sandor> CS: namespaceMapping - important for test cases based on test files that use XML-based techs
13:34:27 <Sandor> SA: map how an evaluation may be performed by a machine
13:35:04 <Sandor> TB: modes for evaluation by humans?
13:35:52 <Sandor> CS: special vocab in TCDL - which defines questions / answertypes for end user testings
13:36:49 <Sandor> CV: first target was automatic evaluation of test cases - have some test files for end-user evaluation
13:38:53 <Sandor> SA: how do BTW TCDL correlate to QA documents for testings
13:40:15 <carlos> http://bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
13:40:24 <Sandor> CS: example files: http://www.bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
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13:44:37 <Sandor> CV: updating the test suite, by now state July 05
13:45:25 <carlos> Shane: link to our TS http://bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
13:47:14 <Sandor> CV: first draft of TCDL - starting point for further work / RDF version?
13:48:05 <Sandor> SA: RDF version of test case schema exists / QA 
13:50:28 <Christophe> s/SA: RDF/TB: RDF/
13:51:26 <Tim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2006Mar/0023.html
13:51:49 <Tim> Test Metadata in RDF - QAIG
13:54:13 <Sandor> CV: still activity in the QA IG
13:54:46 <Christophe> Draft RDF Schema is at http://www.w3.org/2006/03/test-description.rdf
13:55:19 <Sandor> action: TB: please, contact dominique whether there is interesset for RDF test metadata  
13:55:50 <Christophe> s/interesset/interest/
13:57:33 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
13:57:40 <Zakim> -Vangelis
13:57:44 <Zakim> -Shane_Anderson
13:57:45 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
13:57:50 <Zakim> -Sandor_Herramhof
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13:58:05 <Christophe> zakim, make log world
13:58:05 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make log world', Christophe
13:58:14 <Christophe> rrsagent, make log world
13:58:26 <Christophe> rrsagent, pointer?
13:58:26 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-irc#T13-58-26
13:58:38 <Christophe> rrsagent, generate minutes
13:58:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
13:58:55 <Zakim> -CarlosV
13:58:56 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM has ended
13:58:57 <Zakim> Attendees were Christophe_Strobbe, CarlosV, Sandor_Herramhof, +30228109aaaa, Vangelis, Shane_Anderson, Tim_Boland
13:59:11 <Tim> Tim has left #tsdtf
13:59:23 <Christophe> rrsagent, make log world
13:59:27 <Christophe> rrsagent, generate minutes
13:59:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
13:59:45 <carlos> Christophe,please, post the minutes to the list ;-)
14:01:40 <Christophe> Regrets: Shadi, Gez, Diane
14:02:11 <Christophe> Present: Carlos, Christophe, Sandor, Vangelis, Shane, Tim
14:02:15 <Christophe> rrsagent, make log world
14:02:19 <Christophe> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:02:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
14:02:40 <Christophe> Regrets: Shadi, Gez, Diane, Chris_R
14:02:42 <Christophe> rrsagent, make log world
14:02:44 <Christophe> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:02:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
14:04:44 <Christophe> rrsagent, bye
14:04:44 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
14:04:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: TB: please, contact dominique whether there is interesset for RDF test metadata   [1]
14:04:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-irc#T13-55-19