IRC log of tsdtf on 2006-08-02

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12:11:23 [Christophe]
Zakim, list
12:11:23 [Zakim]
I see Team_W3M()8:00AM active
12:11:24 [Zakim]
also scheduled at this time is RWC_WAF()8:00AM
12:13:22 [Christophe]
zakim, this will be tsdtf
12:13:22 [Zakim]
ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM scheduled to start in 47 minutes
12:13:36 [Christophe]
zakim, ping me in 40 minutes
12:13:36 [Zakim]
ok, Christophe
12:16:04 [Christophe]
agenda+ Introduction of new participants
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agenda+ Working procedure for development of test samples
12:16:25 [Christophe]
agenda+ Tools for storage of samples and test metadata
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Meeting: TSD TF Weekly Teleconference
12:23:48 [Christophe]
Chair: Carlos, Christophe
12:24:52 [Christophe]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Aug/0000.html
12:25:45 [Christophe]
Regrets: Diane, Gez
12:25:50 [Christophe]
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13:11:33 [Zakim]
+Tim_Boland
13:12:07 [Christophe]
Scribe: Christophe
13:12:22 [Christophe]
zakim, take up agendum 1
13:12:22 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Introduction of new participants" taken up [from Christophe]
13:13:55 [Christophe]
SH: works with WebAIM; working on evaluation tool 'WAVE'; evaluation of accessible content
13:14:45 [Christophe]
CS: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (Belgium); BenToWeb (EU project); WCAG WG
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SH: University Linz (Austria); BenToWeb; ERT WG
13:15:27 [Christophe]
EV: University of the Aegean (Greece); BenToWeb; ...
13:15:44 [Christophe]
TB: NIST; QA IG, WCAG WG, ...
13:16:11 [Christophe]
CV: Fraunhofer (Germany); BenToWeb co-ordinator; ERT WG
13:16:15 [Christophe]
zakim, take up agendum 2
13:16:15 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Working procedure for development of test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
13:18:12 [Christophe]
Version control system or something else (?) to store test suite and metadata, and to track changes.
13:20:27 [Christophe]
QA IG/WG resources? Especially methodology and processes.
13:21:23 [Christophe]
QA Note on Test Metadata: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-test-metadata-20050914/
13:21:51 [Christophe]
zakim, take up agendum 3
13:21:51 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Tools for storage of samples and test metadata" taken up [from Christophe]
13:22:25 [Christophe]
Scribe: Sandor
13:24:27 [Sandor]
CS: TCDL description - formal metadata / technologies / test case / rules
13:25:09 [Sandor]
CS: formal metadata: contains formal adminstrative metadata
13:25:44 [Tim]
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-test-metadata-20050914/
13:26:00 [Tim]
Test Metadata Document
13:26:15 [Sandor]
CS: technologies - contains information about technologies used / baseline support
13:26:40 [Sandor]
CS: test case - describes what is necessary for the evaluation of a TC
13:26:41 [Tim]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/QA
13:26:52 [Tim]
wiki section on "Building a Test Suite"
13:27:36 [Tim]
http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2005/01/test-faq
13:27:47 [Sandor]
CS: test case may be evaluated by different groups - experts / end user
13:27:59 [Tim]
W3C QA Test Development FAQ Document
13:28:50 [Sandor]
CS: description - written desription of the test
13:30:08 [Sandor]
CS: userGuidance - gives further information about how the tes should be performed
13:31:11 [Sandor]
CS: requiredTests - for test modes and one or more test sceanrios
13:31:43 [Sandor]
CS: rules - contains the rules tested by a test case
13:32:26 [Sandor]
CS: the rules are referece a rule ID in a Ruleset XML file
13:32:39 [Tim]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Test/HTML401/current/htmltestdocumentation.html#testsuiteprinciples
13:32:52 [Tim]
HTML4 Test Suite Principles
13:33:15 [Sandor]
CS: namespaceMapping - important for test cases based on test files that use XML-based techs
13:34:27 [Sandor]
SA: map how an evaluation may be performed by a machine
13:35:04 [Sandor]
TB: modes for evaluation by humans?
13:35:52 [Sandor]
CS: special vocab in TCDL - which defines questions / answertypes for end user testings
13:36:49 [Sandor]
CV: first target was automatic evaluation of test cases - have some test files for end-user evaluation
13:38:53 [Sandor]
SA: how do BTW TCDL correlate to QA documents for testings
13:40:15 [carlos]
http://bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
13:40:24 [Sandor]
CS: example files: http://www.bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
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13:44:37 [Sandor]
CV: updating the test suite, by now state July 05
13:45:25 [carlos]
Shane: link to our TS http://bentoweb.org/ts/XHTML1/home
13:47:14 [Sandor]
CV: first draft of TCDL - starting point for further work / RDF version?
13:48:05 [Sandor]
SA: RDF version of test case schema exists / QA
13:50:28 [Christophe]
s/SA: RDF/TB: RDF/
13:51:26 [Tim]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2006Mar/0023.html
13:51:49 [Tim]
Test Metadata in RDF - QAIG
13:54:13 [Sandor]
CV: still activity in the QA IG
13:54:46 [Christophe]
Draft RDF Schema is at http://www.w3.org/2006/03/test-description.rdf
13:55:19 [Sandor]
action: TB: please, contact dominique whether there is interesset for RDF test metadata
13:55:50 [Christophe]
s/interesset/interest/
13:57:33 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
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-Vangelis
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-Shane_Anderson
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-Christophe_Strobbe
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-Sandor_Herramhof
13:58:02 [Vangelis]
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13:58:05 [Christophe]
zakim, make log world
13:58:05 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'make log world', Christophe
13:58:14 [Christophe]
rrsagent, make log world
13:58:26 [Christophe]
rrsagent, pointer?
13:58:26 [RRSAgent]
See http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-irc#T13-58-26
13:58:38 [Christophe]
rrsagent, generate minutes
13:58:38 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
13:58:55 [Zakim]
-CarlosV
13:58:56 [Zakim]
WAI_TSDTF()9:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Christophe_Strobbe, CarlosV, Sandor_Herramhof, +30228109aaaa, Vangelis, Shane_Anderson, Tim_Boland
13:59:11 [Tim]
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13:59:23 [Christophe]
rrsagent, make log world
13:59:27 [Christophe]
rrsagent, generate minutes
13:59:27 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
13:59:45 [carlos]
Christophe,please, post the minutes to the list ;-)
14:01:40 [Christophe]
Regrets: Shadi, Gez, Diane
14:02:11 [Christophe]
Present: Carlos, Christophe, Sandor, Vangelis, Shane, Tim
14:02:15 [Christophe]
rrsagent, make log world
14:02:19 [Christophe]
rrsagent, generate minutes
14:02:19 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
14:02:40 [Christophe]
Regrets: Shadi, Gez, Diane, Chris_R
14:02:42 [Christophe]
rrsagent, make log world
14:02:44 [Christophe]
rrsagent, generate minutes
14:02:44 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
14:04:44 [Christophe]
rrsagent, bye
14:04:44 [RRSAgent]
I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: TB: please, contact dominique whether there is interesset for RDF test metadata [1]
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