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15:22:36 <raphael> raphael has changed the topic to: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 20-07-2006
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15:42:53 <JeffP> hi raphael
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15:49:57 <giovannit> 1,2,3 in the place to be
15:50:09 <giovannit> (-:
15:50:25 <JeffP> Hi giovannit
15:50:30 <giovannit> Zakim, greet me plenty!
15:50:30 <Zakim> I don't understand 'greet me plenty!', giovannit
15:50:36 <giovannit> hi Jeff :-)
15:52:06 <JeffP> giovannit, I hope we can sort out the wiki issue soon
15:52:48 <giovannit> I am impressed by the apparent complexity of it all :-)
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15:54:00 <raphael> Hi Giovanni
15:54:27 <raphael> zakim, wha conferences?
15:54:27 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, raphael.
15:54:31 <raphael> zakim, what conferences?
15:54:31 <Zakim> I see VB_(ForEach)11:00AM, INC_MMSEM()12:00PM, WS_DescWG()11:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM, GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, XML_PMWG()11:00AM, DIG_TAMI(F2F)9:00AM active
15:54:35 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are I18N_Core_WG(WS-I18N)11:00AM, SYMM_TTWG()12:00PM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, GA_SVGWG()3:00AM
15:54:55 <raphael> zakim, this is INC_MMSEM
15:54:55 <Zakim> ok, raphael; that matches INC_MMSEM()12:00PM
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15:55:44 <raphael> Meeting: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 20-07-2006
15:55:59 <raphael> Chair: JeffP
15:56:17 <raphael> Scribe: Jacco, Raphael
15:56:41 <raphael> ScribeNick: raphael, jrvosse
15:56:45 <Zakim> +GiorgosStoilos
15:57:26 <raphael> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0022.html
15:57:37 <raphael> zakim, GiorgosStoilos is Vassilis
15:57:37 <Zakim> +Vassilis; got it
15:58:24 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
15:58:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see [CWI], Vassilis
15:58:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
15:58:39 <Zakim> +??P34
15:58:51 <raphael> zakim, [CWI] is Raphael
15:58:52 <Zakim> +Raphael; got it
15:59:05 <vassilisT> vassilisT has joined #mmsem
15:59:10 <Zakim> +??P26
15:59:14 <Zakim> +Vassilis.a
15:59:20 <vasileios> vasileios has joined #mmsem
15:59:22 <JeffP> zakim, ??P26
15:59:22 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P26', JeffP
15:59:35 <JeffP> zakim, ??P26 is me
15:59:35 <Zakim> +JeffP; got it
15:59:59 <raphael> zakim Vassilis.a is Yannis
16:00:06 <Zakim> +[UMD]
16:00:10 <JeffP> zakim, who is here?
16:00:16 <raphael> zakim, ??P34 is Giovanni
16:00:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, ??P34, JeffP, [IVML], [UMD]
16:00:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see vasileios, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:00:29 <Zakim> +Giovanni; got it
16:00:31 <raphael> zakim [UMD] is Crhis
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16:00:36 <raphael> zakim, [UMD] is Crhis
16:00:43 <giovannit> zakim mute me
16:00:48 <Zakim> +Crhis; got it
16:00:53 <christian> christian has joined #mmsem
16:00:58 <raphael> zakim, [UMD] is chalaschek
16:01:04 <Zakim> sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '[UMD]'
16:01:17 <Zakim> +??P6
16:01:18 <raphael> zakim, Crhis is Chris
16:01:18 <christian> hello there
16:01:18 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
16:01:27 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
16:01:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, [IVML], Chris, ??P6
16:01:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:01:32 <Zakim> + +30231046aaaa
16:01:34 <Zakim> +??P14
16:01:39 <raphael> zakim, [IVML] is Yannis
16:01:40 <Zakim> +Yannis; got it
16:01:43 <IoannisPratikakis> IoannisPratikakis has joined #mmsem
16:02:04 <raphael> zak
16:02:06 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
16:02:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, Yannis, Chris, ??P6, +30231046aaaa, ??P14
16:02:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:02:47 <jrvosse> zakim, who is talking?
16:02:57 <Zakim> jrvosse, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Raphael (65%), Vassilis (6%), Giovanni (9%), Yannis (53%)
16:02:59 <christian> could someone remind me which is thecode to enter the teleconf?
16:03:04 <alessio> alessio has joined #mmsem
16:03:44 <raphael> zakim, +30231046aaaa is Vasileios
16:03:44 <Zakim> +Vasileios; got it
16:04:11 <vasileios> vasileios has joined #mmsem
16:04:25 <raphael> zakim, ??P6 is Melli
16:04:25 <Zakim> +Melli; got it
16:04:30 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
16:04:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, Yannis, Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14
16:04:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:04:36 <Massimo> Massimo has joined #mmsem
16:04:40 <vasileios> hi, this is vasileios and stamatia from ITI Thessaloniki
16:05:38 <jrvosse> Topic: ADMIN
16:05:44 <anadiotis> hello all, i have some technical issues with the phone connection, and i don't know when/if i'll be able to join you by phone, but i'm here
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16:05:57 <raphael> Regrets: Ovidio, Patrizia, Pasquale, Thierry, Paul, Stephan, Thomas
16:06:06 <raphael> zakim, who is talking
16:06:06 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is talking', raphael
16:06:08 <JeffP> zakim, who is taking
16:06:08 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is taking', JeffP
16:06:08 <Massimo> hi All 
16:06:13 <raphael> zakim, who is talking?
16:06:21 <jrvosse> zakim, who is talking?
16:06:23 <Zakim> raphael, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Raphael (4%), ??P14 (10%), Giovanni (32%)
16:06:26 <giovannit> zakim, mute me
16:06:28 <Zakim> sorry, giovannit, I do not see a party named 'giovannit'
16:06:33 <Zakim> jrvosse, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Melli (4%), Raphael (59%), Vasileios (9%), ??P14 (10%), Vassilis (10%), JeffP (9%), Giovanni (68%), Yannis (7%)
16:06:49 <IoannisPratikakis> hello, from IIT / NCSR"Demokritos", Athens, Greece
16:06:58 <jrvosse> zakim, mute Giovanni,
16:06:58 <Zakim> sorry, jrvosse, I do not see a party named 'Giovanni,'
16:07:00 <jrvosse> zakim, mute Giovanni
16:07:00 <Zakim> Giovanni should now be muted
16:07:22 <raphael> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 22 June 2006 telecon:
16:07:22 <raphael>     http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html
16:07:30 <raphael> ACCEPTED
16:07:38 <raphael> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 10-11 July 2006 F2F meeting:
16:07:38 <raphael>     http://www.w3.org/2006/07/10-mmsem-minutes.html
16:07:38 <raphael>     http://www.w3.org/2006/07/11-mmsem-minutes.html
16:07:48 <raphael> ACCEPTED
16:07:58 <raphael> PROPOSED next telecon 31 August 2006
16:08:26 <raphael> ACCEPTED
16:08:44 <jrvosse> Topic: LIAISON (SWBPD)
16:09:07 <JeffP> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0043.html
16:09:13 <jrvosse> Comments on working draft, Jeff and Massimo have sent comments, these have been addressed
16:09:16 <giovannit> yup .. its not something you can comment that quickly i think
16:09:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:09:39 <jrvosse> Jeff: It is really important, please have a look
16:09:51 <jrvosse> Melli: it is on my todo list for next week
16:10:34 <Zakim> +[CWI]
16:11:09 <jrvosse> zakim, [CWI] is anadiotis
16:11:09 <Zakim> +anadiotis; got it
16:11:20 <vassilisT> zakim, mute  yannis
16:11:20 <Zakim> Yannis should now be muted
16:12:12 <JeffP> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Liaison
16:12:29 <jrvosse> Still important to get comments as soon as possible
16:12:48 <vassilisT> there is big echo
16:12:57 <christian> yup
16:13:02 <jrvosse> Jeff: Liasons are important
16:13:31 <vassilisT> zakim, mute me
16:13:31 <Zakim> sorry, vassilisT, I do not see a party named 'vassilisT'
16:13:32 <jrvosse> zakim, mute me
16:13:32 <Zakim> sorry, jrvosse, I do not see a party named 'jrvosse'
16:13:55 <jrvosse> Rapael: this also depends on the use cases
16:14:01 <vassilisT> jacco what is going on?
16:14:08 <giovannit> zakim, who is talking?
16:14:18 <Zakim> giovannit, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: anadiotis (50%), Raphael (9%)
16:14:30 <jrvosse> zakim, mute anadiotis
16:14:30 <Zakim> anadiotis should now be muted
16:14:33 <giovannit> so its anediotis :-)
16:14:39 <JeffP> thanks
16:14:39 <giovannit> busted.. ;-)
16:15:00 <giovannit> yup and I would have in fact started..
16:15:09 <jrvosse> Raphael: We should also put the resource pages on the wiki
16:15:57 <jrvosse> Rapael: Giovanni volunteered, are there any others?
16:16:06 <giovannit> zakim, mute giovanni
16:16:06 <Zakim> Giovanni was already muted, giovannit
16:16:10 <Zakim> +??P1
16:16:16 <jrvosse> not much work, just maintain on basis of input of others
16:16:29 <yannis> yannis has joined #mmsem
16:16:33 <jrvosse> zakim, P1 is SusanneBoll
16:16:33 <Zakim> sorry, jrvosse, I do not recognize a party named 'P1'
16:16:43 <jrvosse> zakim, ??P1 is SusanneBoll
16:16:43 <Zakim> +SusanneBoll; got it
16:18:28 <jrvosse> Raphael explains Resource, Tools and Vocabularies to Susanne
16:19:00 <jrvosse> zakim, who is one the phone?
16:19:00 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, jrvosse.
16:19:05 <jrvosse> zakim, who is there
16:19:05 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is there', jrvosse
16:19:07 <jrvosse> zakim, who is there?
16:19:07 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, jrvosse.
16:19:16 <christian> Of course I voulunteered automatically along with giovanni :-)
16:19:26 <jrvosse> zakim, who is here?
16:19:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni (muted), JeffP, Yannis (muted), Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14, [IPcaller], anadiotis (muted), SusanneBoll
16:19:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see yannis, cgi-irc, Massimo, vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:20:05 <yannis> zakim, unmute me
16:20:05 <Zakim> Yannis should no longer be muted
16:20:20 <jrvosse> Yannis about MPEG7 liason
16:21:28 <jrvosse> There is a MPEG this week in Austria, colleague of yannis is visiting this and talk to people for liason work
16:21:33 <yannis> zakim, mute me
16:21:33 <Zakim> Yannis should now be muted
16:21:40 <christian> zakim, mute me
16:21:40 <Zakim> sorry, christian, I do not see a party named 'christian'
16:21:58 <jrvosse> action for Yannis to report back to the group about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts
16:22:09 <jrvosse> action: Yannis to report back to the group about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts
16:22:22 <raphael> Topic: XG UPDATES
16:22:44 <jrvosse> Jeff explains about the WIKI pages being about work in progress
16:23:06 <jrvosse> zakim, who is talking?
16:23:17 <Zakim> jrvosse, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (76%), Raphael (13%)
16:23:27 <raphael> zakim, mute [IPcaller]
16:23:27 <Zakim> [IPcaller] should now be muted
16:23:40 <raphael> Music Use Case
16:23:52 <raphael> Action: iovanni to coordinate write up of a use case on music
16:23:55 <jrvosse> zakim, unmute Giovanni
16:23:55 <Zakim> Giovanni should no longer be muted
16:24:16 <raphael> DONE, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0036.html
16:25:12 <jrvosse> ACTION: Giovanni to coordinate write up of a use case on music: CONTINUED
16:26:17 <raphael> Action: Patrizia to find pointer to the Vienna tool (music use case): DONE
16:26:30 <raphael> ACTION: Thierry to write up limitations of MPEG-7 description schemes: CONTINUED
16:27:24 <jrvosse> all, please comment on the use cases using the wiki pages directly
16:27:44 <jrvosse> Susanne: can new use cases still be added
16:27:53 <raphael> YES
16:27:54 <giovannit> zakim, mute giovanni
16:27:54 <Zakim> Giovanni should now be muted
16:27:54 <jrvosse> raphael: sure!
16:27:57 <anadiotis> zakim, unmute me
16:27:57 <Zakim> anadiotis should no longer be muted
16:28:12 <raphael> Tagging Use Case
16:28:48 <raphael> Action: George to write up a use case around tagging: CONTINUED
16:28:54 <giovannit> ar ethere URI for the use cases already?
16:29:29 <raphael> Giovanni: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case
16:29:58 <jrvosse> Susanne: there will be an paper on the ACM multimedia conference on averaging/harmonizing the ratings on images of different websites
16:30:53 <jrvosse> Susanne: this is just a first step, but having exchangable metadata would be the next
16:31:46 <jrvosse> Susanne: title should be something along the lines of "Media tagging"
16:31:55 <raphael> Susanne will join the effort on this use case
16:32:02 <jrvosse> zakim, mute anadiotis
16:32:02 <Zakim> anadiotis should now be muted
16:32:09 <raphael> News Use case:
16:32:54 <jrvosse> ACTION: Raphael to write up use case in the news domain: PENDING (waiting for IPTC green light)
16:33:19 <raphael> Algorithm representation Use case:
16:33:41 <raphael> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Algorithm_representation_Use_case
16:33:47 <raphael> Massimo ?
16:33:52 <Massimo> yes
16:34:04 <raphael> zakim, who is here ?
16:34:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni (muted), JeffP, Yannis (muted), Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14, [IPcaller] (muted), anadiotis (muted), SusanneBoll
16:34:06 <Massimo> (sorry for the phone)
16:34:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see yannis, cgi-irc, Massimo, vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:34:30 <giovannit> i join Jacco in his request for more details about this use case
16:34:30 <raphael> massimo do you have comment on the use case ?
16:34:57 <jrvosse> massimo, I put a comment on the wiki, could you respond to that
16:35:15 <Massimo> i'm going to see it
16:35:21 <anadiotis> i agree with jacco too
16:35:50 <raphael> Low level feature extraction Use case:
16:36:00 <jrvosse> ACTION: Massimo to write up use case on analysis and reproducing: CONTINUED
16:36:26 <jrvosse> rrsagent, pointer?
16:36:26 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-irc#T16-36-26
16:36:46 <jrvosse> rrsagent, make logs public
16:36:49 <yannis> zakim, unmute me
16:36:49 <Zakim> Yannis should no longer be muted
16:36:56 <giovannit> please someone who can create the wiki page :-)
16:37:48 <jrvosse> Vassilis: two contributions from ITI, one emphasising on the low level, the other on the bridge between the low and high level ones
16:38:44 <jrvosse> Raphael: Please note the W3C policies, do not attach unless necesarry, if you need to do so, please in HTML
16:38:52 <vasileios> actually, one contribution is from NCSR (Ioannis) and the other from ITI Thessaloniki (Vasileios)
16:39:29 <IoannisPratikakis> thanks, vasileios
16:39:43 <anadiotis> Raphael: is it possible to merge the 2 use cases?
16:41:05 <jrvosse> VasillisT: Maybe should continue to work like this, can merge later
16:42:14 <IoannisPratikakis> For the moment, I agree with VasillisT
16:42:18 <jrvosse> Ionnis: I think it would be good to merge these
16:43:34 <IoannisPratikakis> It's better that the current documents become more mature 
16:43:53 <IoannisPratikakis> After a second round we merge them
16:44:06 <JeffP> Topic: 3.6 Other use case ?
16:44:37 <raphael> ACTION: Iioanis to write up use case showing the need for semantic interpretation of low level features (Ioannis and Vasileios, 2 documents): CONTINUED
16:44:41 <raphael> Media Use case
16:44:54 <christian> zakim, who is talking?
16:44:59 <yannis> zakim, mute me
16:44:59 <Zakim> Yannis should now be muted
16:45:05 <Zakim> christian, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: SusanneBoll (4%), Raphael (19%), Vasileios (13%), Yannis (18%)
16:46:00 <jrvosse> Raphael: how realistic is that we can get datasets for this use case?
16:46:21 <jrvosse> VassilisT: we have data from a national project and think it is feasible
16:46:29 <raphael> ACTION: Vassilis to continue the Media use case
16:47:42 <jrvosse> Raphael: for everyone not at the f2f: feel free to join activity on existing use cases or add a new use case
16:48:07 <jrvosse> If you are not assigned to a use case yet, please speak up
16:48:23 <jrvosse> Chris: will read through the current use cases
16:48:28 <jrvosse> Melli: same for me
16:48:46 <jrvosse> q+ on medical use case
16:48:48 <yannis> zakim, unmute me
16:48:49 <Zakim> Yannis should no longer be muted
16:48:55 <jrvosse> q+ to speak on medical use case
16:49:24 <jrvosse> raphael: yannis, what are your plans on the use case?
16:49:41 <Massimo> to help taking decisions
16:50:04 <raphael> zakim, ack jvross
16:50:04 <Zakim> I see jrvosse on the speaker queue
16:50:21 <raphael> zakim, ack jvrosse
16:50:21 <Zakim> I see jrvosse on the speaker queue
16:50:40 <raphael> zakim q-
16:50:42 <raphael> zakim, q-
16:50:42 <Zakim> I see jrvosse on the speaker queue
16:51:20 <jrvosse> Yannis: I think the low level uses cases are covered, might think about a new one
16:52:07 <jrvosse> Jacco on medical use case, forgot that there was already a use case on the image annotation draft from SWBPD WG
16:52:10 <raphael> Actkion: Melli propose a use case on bio-medicale images
16:52:15 <raphael> Action: Melli propose a use case on bio-medicale images
16:52:16 <JeffP> 4. Future Metings:
16:52:36 <yannis> zakim, mute me
16:52:36 <Zakim> Yannis should now be muted
16:52:45 <jrvosse> Susanne: will read through use cases and decide later
16:53:04 <giovannit> @ISWC!
16:53:08 <yannis> zakim, unmute me
16:53:08 <Zakim> Yannis should no longer be muted
16:53:13 <JeffP> ack jrvosse 
16:53:13 <Zakim> jrvosse, you wanted to speak on medical use case
16:53:42 <christian> At ISWC would be better for me and Giovanni
16:53:46 <jrvosse> Next f2f meeting: two proposals: athens greece, SAMT or athens georgia, at ISWC
16:53:50 <chalaschek> I also vote for ISWC
16:54:00 <jrvosse> Susanne: is ACM MM an option?
16:54:18 <jrvosse> Raphael: October is too early ...
16:54:57 <jrvosse> Chris: the two venues I checked only have a room for one day
16:55:51 <jrvosse> Raphael: most participants come from europe, only 2 from US. Also there are (too) many events already around ISWC
16:56:36 <jrvosse> Raphael: for the US particpants, is there any possibility you could make it to Europe?
16:57:11 <jrvosse> Melli & Chris: we could, just depends on budget issues, needto get improval first
16:58:29 <jrvosse> Yannis: On the 7th of December we have two rooms, on the 8th we have one extra room available
16:58:42 <jrvosse> Jeff, how big is this room?
16:59:05 <jrvosse> Yannis: smallest rooms are around 25, that should be sufficient
16:59:47 <IoannisPratikakis> Just consider that NCSR"Demokritos", could also host the f2f meeting
16:59:58 <jrvosse> Raphael: PROPOSAL: co-locate next f2f with SAMT in Athens, Greece.
17:00:40 <JeffP> zakim, who is here?
17:00:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni (muted), JeffP, Yannis, Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14, [IPcaller] (muted), anadiotis (muted), SusanneBoll
17:00:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see yannis, cgi-irc, Massimo, vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
17:00:58 <jrvosse> Yannis: network access might be a problem, we are currently negociating about wlan network access
17:01:47 <jrvosse> Yannis: it is in a hotel, we do not have everything under control
17:02:46 <jrvosse> Vassilis: we could do it just after samt, on the campus
17:02:46 <raphael> Vassilis: during SAMT or right after
17:02:56 <jrvosse> zakim, unmute Giovanni
17:02:56 <Zakim> Giovanni should no longer be muted
17:02:59 <anadiotis> zakim, unmute me
17:02:59 <Zakim> anadiotis should no longer be muted
17:03:31 <yannis> zakim, mute me
17:03:31 <Zakim> Yannis should now be muted
17:03:35 <giovannit> sorry.. was away.. they're both fine. I'd rather @iswc though
17:03:49 <giovannit> zakim,mute me
17:03:49 <Zakim> sorry, giovannit, I do not see a party named 'giovannit'
17:03:56 <giovannit> zakim, mute giovanni
17:03:56 <Zakim> Giovanni should now be muted
17:04:01 <christian> I agree with giovanni, ISWC would be better but it ok anyway
17:04:12 <chalaschek> echo again
17:04:34 <raphael> zakim, who is talking?
17:04:44 <raphael> massimo: SAMT ? or ISWC for the next F2F ?
17:04:46 <Zakim> raphael, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: anadiotis (50%), SusanneBoll (8%), Raphael (54%), Vassilis (8%)
17:04:59 <raphael> zakim, mute anadiotis
17:04:59 <Zakim> anadiotis should now be muted
17:05:36 <jrvosse> Raphael: PROPOSAL: co-locate next f2f with SAMT in Athens, Greece.
17:05:39 <jrvosse> ACCEPTED
17:05:55 <jrvosse> Votes for SAMT: Raphael, Vassilis, Jacco, Vassileios, Susanne, George
17:06:21 <IoannisPratikakis> I also vote for SAMT
17:06:32 <Massimo> I also vote for SAMT
17:06:39 <jrvosse> Votes for ISWC: Giovanni, Chris
17:06:46 <jrvosse> Topic: AOB
17:07:04 <alessio> same, i vote for SAMT
17:07:05 <jrvosse> Susanne: can the mail subjects be prefixed?
17:07:07 <raphael> Action: Jeff, Raphael to contact Yannis for the practical SAMT details
17:08:34 <jrvosse> action: jeff and raphael to start discussion on email subject prefixes
17:08:34 <chalaschek> bye
17:08:35 <giovannit> by all! :-)
17:08:39 <Zakim> -Vassilis
17:08:39 <anadiotis> bye
17:08:40 <jrvosse> bye:
17:08:40 <Zakim> -SusanneBoll
17:08:41 <yannis> zakim, unmute me
17:08:41 <christian> cioa a tutti
17:08:41 <Zakim> Yannis should no longer be muted
17:08:43 <Zakim> -Chris
17:08:44 <Zakim> -Raphael
17:08:45 <Zakim> -??P14
17:08:46 <Zakim> -Vasileios
17:08:48 <Zakim> -anadiotis
17:08:50 <Zakim> -JeffP
17:08:52 <Zakim> -Giovanni
17:08:52 <Massimo> bye !
17:08:54 <Zakim> -Melli
17:08:56 <JeffP> bye
17:09:00 <IoannisPratikakis> bye
17:09:06 <Massimo> Massimo has left #mmsem
17:09:09 <jrvosse> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:09:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html jrvosse
17:09:12 <IoannisPratikakis> \quit
17:10:16 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
17:10:34 <jrvosse> rrsagent, pointer
17:10:34 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-irc#T17-10-34
17:11:44 <Zakim> -Yannis
17:11:46 <Zakim> INC_MMSEM()12:00PM has ended
17:11:47 <Zakim> Attendees were Vassilis, Raphael, JeffP, Giovanni, Chris, Yannis, Vasileios, Melli, [IPcaller], anadiotis, SusanneBoll
17:13:18 <jrvosse> Present: Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, Yannis, Chris, Melli, Vasileios, Susanne, Jacco, Ioannis, Stamatia, Massimo (IRC), Allessio (IRC), 
17:13:21 <jrvosse> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:13:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html jrvosse
17:16:15 <alessio> bye, see you next time :)
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