IRC log of mmsem on 2006-07-20

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15:22:36 [raphael]: raphael has changed the topic to: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 20-07-2006
15:42:33 [JeffP]: JeffP has joined #mmsem
15:42:53 [JeffP]: hi raphael
15:49:51 [giovannit]: giovannit has joined #mmsem
15:49:57 [giovannit]: 1,2,3 in the place to be
15:50:09 [giovannit]: (-:
15:50:25 [JeffP]: Hi giovannit
15:50:30 [giovannit]: Zakim, greet me plenty!
15:50:30 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'greet me plenty!', giovannit
15:50:36 [giovannit]: hi Jeff :-)
15:52:06 [JeffP]: giovannit, I hope we can sort out the wiki issue soon
15:52:48 [giovannit]: I am impressed by the apparent complexity of it all :-)
15:53:05 [anadiotis]: anadiotis has joined #mmsem
15:54:00 [raphael]: Hi Giovanni
15:54:27 [raphael]: zakim, wha conferences?
15:54:27 [Zakim]: I don't understand your question, raphael.
15:54:31 [raphael]: zakim, what conferences?
15:54:31 [Zakim]: I see VB_(ForEach)11:00AM, INC_MMSEM()12:00PM, WS_DescWG()11:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM, GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, XML_PMWG()11:00AM, DIG_TAMI(F2F)9:00AM active
15:54:35 [Zakim]: also scheduled at this time are I18N_Core_WG(WS-I18N)11:00AM, SYMM_TTWG()12:00PM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, GA_SVGWG()3:00AM
15:54:55 [raphael]: zakim, this is INC_MMSEM
15:54:55 [Zakim]: ok, raphael; that matches INC_MMSEM()12:00PM
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15:55:44 [raphael]: Meeting: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 20-07-2006
15:55:59 [raphael]: Chair: JeffP
15:56:17 [raphael]: Scribe: Jacco, Raphael
15:56:41 [raphael]: ScribeNick: raphael, jrvosse
15:56:45 [Zakim]: +GiorgosStoilos
15:57:26 [raphael]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0022.html
15:57:37 [raphael]: zakim, GiorgosStoilos is Vassilis
15:57:37 [Zakim]: +Vassilis; got it
15:58:24 [raphael]: zakim, who is here?
15:58:24 [Zakim]: On the phone I see [CWI], Vassilis
15:58:25 [Zakim]: On IRC I see jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
15:58:39 [Zakim]: +??P34
15:58:51 [raphael]: zakim, [CWI] is Raphael
15:58:52 [Zakim]: +Raphael; got it
15:59:05 [vassilisT]: vassilisT has joined #mmsem
15:59:10 [Zakim]: +??P26
15:59:14 [Zakim]: +Vassilis.a
15:59:20 [vasileios]: vasileios has joined #mmsem
15:59:22 [JeffP]: zakim, ??P26
15:59:22 [Zakim]: I don't understand '??P26', JeffP
15:59:35 [JeffP]: zakim, ??P26 is me
15:59:35 [Zakim]: +JeffP; got it
15:59:59 [raphael]: zakim Vassilis.a is Yannis
16:00:06 [Zakim]: +[UMD]
16:00:10 [JeffP]: zakim, who is here?
16:00:16 [raphael]: zakim, ??P34 is Giovanni
16:00:17 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, ??P34, JeffP, [IVML], [UMD]
16:00:21 [Zakim]: On IRC I see vasileios, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:00:29 [Zakim]: +Giovanni; got it
16:00:31 [raphael]: zakim [UMD] is Crhis
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16:00:36 [raphael]: zakim, [UMD] is Crhis
16:00:43 [giovannit]: zakim mute me
16:00:48 [Zakim]: +Crhis; got it
16:00:53 [christian]: christian has joined #mmsem
16:00:58 [raphael]: zakim, [UMD] is chalaschek
16:01:04 [Zakim]: sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '[UMD]'
16:01:17 [Zakim]: +??P6
16:01:18 [raphael]: zakim, Crhis is Chris
16:01:18 [christian]: hello there
16:01:18 [Zakim]: +Chris; got it
16:01:27 [raphael]: zakim, who is here?
16:01:27 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, [IVML], Chris, ??P6
16:01:29 [Zakim]: On IRC I see christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:01:32 [Zakim]: + +30231046aaaa
16:01:34 [Zakim]: +??P14
16:01:39 [raphael]: zakim, [IVML] is Yannis
16:01:40 [Zakim]: +Yannis; got it
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16:02:04 [raphael]: zak
16:02:06 [raphael]: zakim, who is here?
16:02:08 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, Yannis, Chris, ??P6, +30231046aaaa, ??P14
16:02:10 [Zakim]: On IRC I see IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:02:47 [jrvosse]: zakim, who is talking?
16:02:57 [Zakim]: jrvosse, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Raphael (65%), Vassilis (6%), Giovanni (9%), Yannis (53%)
16:02:59 [christian]: could someone remind me which is thecode to enter the teleconf?
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16:03:44 [raphael]: zakim, +30231046aaaa is Vasileios
16:03:44 [Zakim]: +Vasileios; got it
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16:04:25 [raphael]: zakim, ??P6 is Melli
16:04:25 [Zakim]: +Melli; got it
16:04:30 [raphael]: zakim, who is here?
16:04:30 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, Yannis, Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14
16:04:32 [Zakim]: On IRC I see vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:04:36 [Massimo]: Massimo has joined #mmsem
16:04:40 [vasileios]: hi, this is vasileios and stamatia from ITI Thessaloniki
16:05:38 [jrvosse]: Topic: ADMIN
16:05:44 [anadiotis]: hello all, i have some technical issues with the phone connection, and i don't know when/if i'll be able to join you by phone, but i'm here
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16:05:57 [raphael]: Regrets: Ovidio, Patrizia, Pasquale, Thierry, Paul, Stephan, Thomas
16:06:06 [raphael]: zakim, who is talking
16:06:06 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'who is talking', raphael
16:06:08 [JeffP]: zakim, who is taking
16:06:08 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'who is taking', JeffP
16:06:08 [Massimo]: hi All
16:06:13 [raphael]: zakim, who is talking?
16:06:21 [jrvosse]: zakim, who is talking?
16:06:23 [Zakim]: raphael, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Raphael (4%), ??P14 (10%), Giovanni (32%)
16:06:26 [giovannit]: zakim, mute me
16:06:28 [Zakim]: sorry, giovannit, I do not see a party named 'giovannit'
16:06:33 [Zakim]: jrvosse, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Melli (4%), Raphael (59%), Vasileios (9%), ??P14 (10%), Vassilis (10%), JeffP (9%), Giovanni (68%), Yannis (7%)
16:06:49 [IoannisPratikakis]: hello, from IIT / NCSR"Demokritos", Athens, Greece
16:06:58 [jrvosse]: zakim, mute Giovanni,
16:06:58 [Zakim]: sorry, jrvosse, I do not see a party named 'Giovanni,'
16:07:00 [jrvosse]: zakim, mute Giovanni
16:07:00 [Zakim]: Giovanni should now be muted
16:07:22 [raphael]: PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 22 June 2006 telecon:
16:07:22 [raphael]: http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html
16:07:30 [raphael]: ACCEPTED
16:07:38 [raphael]: PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 10-11 July 2006 F2F meeting:
16:07:38 [raphael]: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/10-mmsem-minutes.html
16:07:38 [raphael]: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/11-mmsem-minutes.html
16:07:48 [raphael]: ACCEPTED
16:07:58 [raphael]: PROPOSED next telecon 31 August 2006
16:08:26 [raphael]: ACCEPTED
16:08:44 [jrvosse]: Topic: LIAISON (SWBPD)
16:09:07 [JeffP]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0043.html
16:09:13 [jrvosse]: Comments on working draft, Jeff and Massimo have sent comments, these have been addressed
16:09:16 [giovannit]: yup .. its not something you can comment that quickly i think
16:09:35 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
16:09:39 [jrvosse]: Jeff: It is really important, please have a look
16:09:51 [jrvosse]: Melli: it is on my todo list for next week
16:10:34 [Zakim]: +[CWI]
16:11:09 [jrvosse]: zakim, [CWI] is anadiotis
16:11:09 [Zakim]: +anadiotis; got it
16:11:20 [vassilisT]: zakim, mute yannis
16:11:20 [Zakim]: Yannis should now be muted
16:12:12 [JeffP]: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Liaison
16:12:29 [jrvosse]: Still important to get comments as soon as possible
16:12:48 [vassilisT]: there is big echo
16:12:57 [christian]: yup
16:13:02 [jrvosse]: Jeff: Liasons are important
16:13:31 [vassilisT]: zakim, mute me
16:13:31 [Zakim]: sorry, vassilisT, I do not see a party named 'vassilisT'
16:13:32 [jrvosse]: zakim, mute me
16:13:32 [Zakim]: sorry, jrvosse, I do not see a party named 'jrvosse'
16:13:55 [jrvosse]: Rapael: this also depends on the use cases
16:14:01 [vassilisT]: jacco what is going on?
16:14:08 [giovannit]: zakim, who is talking?
16:14:18 [Zakim]: giovannit, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: anadiotis (50%), Raphael (9%)
16:14:30 [jrvosse]: zakim, mute anadiotis
16:14:30 [Zakim]: anadiotis should now be muted
16:14:33 [giovannit]: so its anediotis :-)
16:14:39 [JeffP]: thanks
16:14:39 [giovannit]: busted.. ;-)
16:15:00 [giovannit]: yup and I would have in fact started..
16:15:09 [jrvosse]: Raphael: We should also put the resource pages on the wiki
16:15:57 [jrvosse]: Rapael: Giovanni volunteered, are there any others?
16:16:06 [giovannit]: zakim, mute giovanni
16:16:06 [Zakim]: Giovanni was already muted, giovannit
16:16:10 [Zakim]: +??P1
16:16:16 [jrvosse]: not much work, just maintain on basis of input of others
16:16:29 [yannis]: yannis has joined #mmsem
16:16:33 [jrvosse]: zakim, P1 is SusanneBoll
16:16:33 [Zakim]: sorry, jrvosse, I do not recognize a party named 'P1'
16:16:43 [jrvosse]: zakim, ??P1 is SusanneBoll
16:16:43 [Zakim]: +SusanneBoll; got it
16:18:28 [jrvosse]: Raphael explains Resource, Tools and Vocabularies to Susanne
16:19:00 [jrvosse]: zakim, who is one the phone?
16:19:00 [Zakim]: I don't understand your question, jrvosse.
16:19:05 [jrvosse]: zakim, who is there
16:19:05 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'who is there', jrvosse
16:19:07 [jrvosse]: zakim, who is there?
16:19:07 [Zakim]: I don't understand your question, jrvosse.
16:19:16 [christian]: Of course I voulunteered automatically along with giovanni :-)
16:19:26 [jrvosse]: zakim, who is here?
16:19:26 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni (muted), JeffP, Yannis (muted), Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14, [IPcaller], anadiotis (muted), SusanneBoll
16:19:30 [Zakim]: On IRC I see yannis, cgi-irc, Massimo, vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:20:05 [yannis]: zakim, unmute me
16:20:05 [Zakim]: Yannis should no longer be muted
16:20:20 [jrvosse]: Yannis about MPEG7 liason
16:21:28 [jrvosse]: There is a MPEG this week in Austria, colleague of yannis is visiting this and talk to people for liason work
16:21:33 [yannis]: zakim, mute me
16:21:33 [Zakim]: Yannis should now be muted
16:21:40 [christian]: zakim, mute me
16:21:40 [Zakim]: sorry, christian, I do not see a party named 'christian'
16:21:58 [jrvosse]: action for Yannis to report back to the group about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts
16:22:09 [jrvosse]: action: Yannis to report back to the group about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts
16:22:22 [raphael]: Topic: XG UPDATES
16:22:44 [jrvosse]: Jeff explains about the WIKI pages being about work in progress
16:23:06 [jrvosse]: zakim, who is talking?
16:23:17 [Zakim]: jrvosse, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (76%), Raphael (13%)
16:23:27 [raphael]: zakim, mute [IPcaller]
16:23:27 [Zakim]: [IPcaller] should now be muted
16:23:40 [raphael]: Music Use Case
16:23:52 [raphael]: Action: iovanni to coordinate write up of a use case on music
16:23:55 [jrvosse]: zakim, unmute Giovanni
16:23:55 [Zakim]: Giovanni should no longer be muted
16:24:16 [raphael]: DONE, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0036.html
16:25:12 [jrvosse]: ACTION: Giovanni to coordinate write up of a use case on music: CONTINUED
16:26:17 [raphael]: Action: Patrizia to find pointer to the Vienna tool (music use case): DONE
16:26:30 [raphael]: ACTION: Thierry to write up limitations of MPEG-7 description schemes: CONTINUED
16:27:24 [jrvosse]: all, please comment on the use cases using the wiki pages directly
16:27:44 [jrvosse]: Susanne: can new use cases still be added
16:27:53 [raphael]: YES
16:27:54 [giovannit]: zakim, mute giovanni
16:27:54 [Zakim]: Giovanni should now be muted
16:27:54 [jrvosse]: raphael: sure!
16:27:57 [anadiotis]: zakim, unmute me
16:27:57 [Zakim]: anadiotis should no longer be muted
16:28:12 [raphael]: Tagging Use Case
16:28:48 [raphael]: Action: George to write up a use case around tagging: CONTINUED
16:28:54 [giovannit]: ar ethere URI for the use cases already?
16:29:29 [raphael]: Giovanni: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case
16:29:58 [jrvosse]: Susanne: there will be an paper on the ACM multimedia conference on averaging/harmonizing the ratings on images of different websites
16:30:53 [jrvosse]: Susanne: this is just a first step, but having exchangable metadata would be the next
16:31:46 [jrvosse]: Susanne: title should be something along the lines of "Media tagging"
16:31:55 [raphael]: Susanne will join the effort on this use case
16:32:02 [jrvosse]: zakim, mute anadiotis
16:32:02 [Zakim]: anadiotis should now be muted
16:32:09 [raphael]: News Use case:
16:32:54 [jrvosse]: ACTION: Raphael to write up use case in the news domain: PENDING (waiting for IPTC green light)
16:33:19 [raphael]: Algorithm representation Use case:
16:33:41 [raphael]: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Algorithm_representation_Use_case
16:33:47 [raphael]: Massimo ?
16:33:52 [Massimo]: yes
16:34:04 [raphael]: zakim, who is here ?
16:34:04 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni (muted), JeffP, Yannis (muted), Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14, [IPcaller] (muted), anadiotis (muted), SusanneBoll
16:34:06 [Massimo]: (sorry for the phone)
16:34:07 [Zakim]: On IRC I see yannis, cgi-irc, Massimo, vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
16:34:30 [giovannit]: i join Jacco in his request for more details about this use case
16:34:30 [raphael]: massimo do you have comment on the use case ?
16:34:57 [jrvosse]: massimo, I put a comment on the wiki, could you respond to that
16:35:15 [Massimo]: i'm going to see it
16:35:21 [anadiotis]: i agree with jacco too
16:35:50 [raphael]: Low level feature extraction Use case:
16:36:00 [jrvosse]: ACTION: Massimo to write up use case on analysis and reproducing: CONTINUED
16:36:26 [jrvosse]: rrsagent, pointer?
16:36:26 [RRSAgent]: See http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-irc#T16-36-26
16:36:46 [jrvosse]: rrsagent, make logs public
16:36:49 [yannis]: zakim, unmute me
16:36:49 [Zakim]: Yannis should no longer be muted
16:36:56 [giovannit]: please someone who can create the wiki page :-)
16:37:48 [jrvosse]: Vassilis: two contributions from ITI, one emphasising on the low level, the other on the bridge between the low and high level ones
16:38:44 [jrvosse]: Raphael: Please note the W3C policies, do not attach unless necesarry, if you need to do so, please in HTML
16:38:52 [vasileios]: actually, one contribution is from NCSR (Ioannis) and the other from ITI Thessaloniki (Vasileios)
16:39:29 [IoannisPratikakis]: thanks, vasileios
16:39:43 [anadiotis]: Raphael: is it possible to merge the 2 use cases?
16:41:05 [jrvosse]: VasillisT: Maybe should continue to work like this, can merge later
16:42:14 [IoannisPratikakis]: For the moment, I agree with VasillisT
16:42:18 [jrvosse]: Ionnis: I think it would be good to merge these
16:43:34 [IoannisPratikakis]: It's better that the current documents become more mature
16:43:53 [IoannisPratikakis]: After a second round we merge them
16:44:06 [JeffP]: Topic: 3.6 Other use case ?
16:44:37 [raphael]: ACTION: Iioanis to write up use case showing the need for semantic interpretation of low level features (Ioannis and Vasileios, 2 documents): CONTINUED
16:44:41 [raphael]: Media Use case
16:44:54 [christian]: zakim, who is talking?
16:44:59 [yannis]: zakim, mute me
16:44:59 [Zakim]: Yannis should now be muted
16:45:05 [Zakim]: christian, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: SusanneBoll (4%), Raphael (19%), Vasileios (13%), Yannis (18%)
16:46:00 [jrvosse]: Raphael: how realistic is that we can get datasets for this use case?
16:46:21 [jrvosse]: VassilisT: we have data from a national project and think it is feasible
16:46:29 [raphael]: ACTION: Vassilis to continue the Media use case
16:47:42 [jrvosse]: Raphael: for everyone not at the f2f: feel free to join activity on existing use cases or add a new use case
16:48:07 [jrvosse]: If you are not assigned to a use case yet, please speak up
16:48:23 [jrvosse]: Chris: will read through the current use cases
16:48:28 [jrvosse]: Melli: same for me
16:48:46 [jrvosse]: q+ on medical use case
16:48:48 [yannis]: zakim, unmute me
16:48:49 [Zakim]: Yannis should no longer be muted
16:48:55 [jrvosse]: q+ to speak on medical use case
16:49:24 [jrvosse]: raphael: yannis, what are your plans on the use case?
16:49:41 [Massimo]: to help taking decisions
16:50:04 [raphael]: zakim, ack jvross
16:50:04 [Zakim]: I see jrvosse on the speaker queue
16:50:21 [raphael]: zakim, ack jvrosse
16:50:21 [Zakim]: I see jrvosse on the speaker queue
16:50:40 [raphael]: zakim q-
16:50:42 [raphael]: zakim, q-
16:50:42 [Zakim]: I see jrvosse on the speaker queue
16:51:20 [jrvosse]: Yannis: I think the low level uses cases are covered, might think about a new one
16:52:07 [jrvosse]: Jacco on medical use case, forgot that there was already a use case on the image annotation draft from SWBPD WG
16:52:10 [raphael]: Actkion: Melli propose a use case on bio-medicale images
16:52:15 [raphael]: Action: Melli propose a use case on bio-medicale images
16:52:16 [JeffP]: 4. Future Metings:
16:52:36 [yannis]: zakim, mute me
16:52:36 [Zakim]: Yannis should now be muted
16:52:45 [jrvosse]: Susanne: will read through use cases and decide later
16:53:04 [giovannit]: @ISWC!
16:53:08 [yannis]: zakim, unmute me
16:53:08 [Zakim]: Yannis should no longer be muted
16:53:13 [JeffP]: ack jrvosse
16:53:13 [Zakim]: jrvosse, you wanted to speak on medical use case
16:53:42 [christian]: At ISWC would be better for me and Giovanni
16:53:46 [jrvosse]: Next f2f meeting: two proposals: athens greece, SAMT or athens georgia, at ISWC
16:53:50 [chalaschek]: I also vote for ISWC
16:54:00 [jrvosse]: Susanne: is ACM MM an option?
16:54:18 [jrvosse]: Raphael: October is too early ...
16:54:57 [jrvosse]: Chris: the two venues I checked only have a room for one day
16:55:51 [jrvosse]: Raphael: most participants come from europe, only 2 from US. Also there are (too) many events already around ISWC
16:56:36 [jrvosse]: Raphael: for the US particpants, is there any possibility you could make it to Europe?
16:57:11 [jrvosse]: Melli & Chris: we could, just depends on budget issues, needto get improval first
16:58:29 [jrvosse]: Yannis: On the 7th of December we have two rooms, on the 8th we have one extra room available
16:58:42 [jrvosse]: Jeff, how big is this room?
16:59:05 [jrvosse]: Yannis: smallest rooms are around 25, that should be sufficient
16:59:47 [IoannisPratikakis]: Just consider that NCSR"Demokritos", could also host the f2f meeting
16:59:58 [jrvosse]: Raphael: PROPOSAL: co-locate next f2f with SAMT in Athens, Greece.
17:00:40 [JeffP]: zakim, who is here?
17:00:40 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni (muted), JeffP, Yannis, Chris, Melli, Vasileios, ??P14, [IPcaller] (muted), anadiotis (muted), SusanneBoll
17:00:43 [Zakim]: On IRC I see yannis, cgi-irc, Massimo, vasileios, alessio, IoannisPratikakis, christian, chalaschek, vassilisT, jrvosse, anadiotis, giovannit, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael
17:00:58 [jrvosse]: Yannis: network access might be a problem, we are currently negociating about wlan network access
17:01:47 [jrvosse]: Yannis: it is in a hotel, we do not have everything under control
17:02:46 [jrvosse]: Vassilis: we could do it just after samt, on the campus
17:02:46 [raphael]: Vassilis: during SAMT or right after
17:02:56 [jrvosse]: zakim, unmute Giovanni
17:02:56 [Zakim]: Giovanni should no longer be muted
17:02:59 [anadiotis]: zakim, unmute me
17:02:59 [Zakim]: anadiotis should no longer be muted
17:03:31 [yannis]: zakim, mute me
17:03:31 [Zakim]: Yannis should now be muted
17:03:35 [giovannit]: sorry.. was away.. they're both fine. I'd rather @iswc though
17:03:49 [giovannit]: zakim,mute me
17:03:49 [Zakim]: sorry, giovannit, I do not see a party named 'giovannit'
17:03:56 [giovannit]: zakim, mute giovanni
17:03:56 [Zakim]: Giovanni should now be muted
17:04:01 [christian]: I agree with giovanni, ISWC would be better but it ok anyway
17:04:12 [chalaschek]: echo again
17:04:34 [raphael]: zakim, who is talking?
17:04:44 [raphael]: massimo: SAMT ? or ISWC for the next F2F ?
17:04:46 [Zakim]: raphael, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: anadiotis (50%), SusanneBoll (8%), Raphael (54%), Vassilis (8%)
17:04:59 [raphael]: zakim, mute anadiotis
17:04:59 [Zakim]: anadiotis should now be muted
17:05:36 [jrvosse]: Raphael: PROPOSAL: co-locate next f2f with SAMT in Athens, Greece.
17:05:39 [jrvosse]: ACCEPTED
17:05:55 [jrvosse]: Votes for SAMT: Raphael, Vassilis, Jacco, Vassileios, Susanne, George
17:06:21 [IoannisPratikakis]: I also vote for SAMT
17:06:32 [Massimo]: I also vote for SAMT
17:06:39 [jrvosse]: Votes for ISWC: Giovanni, Chris
17:06:46 [jrvosse]: Topic: AOB
17:07:04 [alessio]: same, i vote for SAMT
17:07:05 [jrvosse]: Susanne: can the mail subjects be prefixed?
17:07:07 [raphael]: Action: Jeff, Raphael to contact Yannis for the practical SAMT details
17:08:34 [jrvosse]: action: jeff and raphael to start discussion on email subject prefixes
17:08:34 [chalaschek]: bye
17:08:35 [giovannit]: by all! :-)
17:08:39 [Zakim]: -Vassilis
17:08:39 [anadiotis]: bye
17:08:40 [jrvosse]: bye:
17:08:40 [Zakim]: -SusanneBoll
17:08:41 [yannis]: zakim, unmute me
17:08:41 [christian]: cioa a tutti
17:08:41 [Zakim]: Yannis should no longer be muted
17:08:43 [Zakim]: -Chris
17:08:44 [Zakim]: -Raphael
17:08:45 [Zakim]: -??P14
17:08:46 [Zakim]: -Vasileios
17:08:48 [Zakim]: -anadiotis
17:08:50 [Zakim]: -JeffP
17:08:52 [Zakim]: -Giovanni
17:08:52 [Massimo]: bye !
17:08:54 [Zakim]: -Melli
17:08:56 [JeffP]: bye
17:09:00 [IoannisPratikakis]: bye
17:09:06 [Massimo]: Massimo has left #mmsem
17:09:09 [jrvosse]: rrsagent, draft minutes
17:09:09 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html jrvosse
17:09:12 [IoannisPratikakis]: \quit
17:10:16 [Zakim]: -[IPcaller]
17:10:34 [jrvosse]: rrsagent, pointer
17:10:34 [RRSAgent]: See http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-irc#T17-10-34
17:11:44 [Zakim]: -Yannis
17:11:46 [Zakim]: INC_MMSEM()12:00PM has ended
17:11:47 [Zakim]: Attendees were Vassilis, Raphael, JeffP, Giovanni, Chris, Yannis, Vasileios, Melli, [IPcaller], anadiotis, SusanneBoll
17:13:18 [jrvosse]: Present: Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, Yannis, Chris, Melli, Vasileios, Susanne, Jacco, Ioannis, Stamatia, Massimo (IRC), Allessio (IRC),
17:13:21 [jrvosse]: rrsagent, draft minutes
17:13:21 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html jrvosse
17:16:15 [alessio]: bye, see you next time :)
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