19:53:36 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:53:36 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-wai-wcag-irc 19:53:40 rrsagent, make log world 19:53:58 scribeOptions: scribeOnly final 19:54:08 meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 19:54:16 chair: Gregg Vanderheiden 19:54:40 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0032.html 19:55:10 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 19:55:42 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Editors for 06 July 19:56:17 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A 19:56:51 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team C 19:57:22 bengt has joined #wai-wcag 19:57:41 regrets: Alex Li, Makoto Ueki, Judy Brewer 19:58:00 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started 19:58:07 +Don_Evans 19:59:20 +Bruce_Bailey 19:59:52 +Cooper 20:00:16 +??P2 20:00:27 + +86106590aaaa 20:00:32 rellero_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:32 +??P4 20:00:36 Gregg has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:38 zakim, ??P4 is Roberto_Scano 20:00:38 +Roberto_Scano; got it 20:00:43 +Becky_Gibson 20:00:43 zakim, I am Roberto_Scano 20:00:44 ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 20:00:45 zakim, ??P2 is Andi_Snow-Weaver 20:00:45 +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it 20:00:47 zakim, mute me 20:00:47 Roberto_Scano should now be muted 20:01:08 becka11y has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:14 zakim, Andi is unknown 20:01:14 +unknown; got it 20:01:19 +David_MacDonald 20:01:23 zakim, +86 is Andi_Snow-Weaver 20:01:23 +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it 20:01:34 +Bengt_Farre 20:01:53 Sofia has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:55 zakim, who's on the phone? 20:01:55 On the phone I see Don_Evans, Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, unknown, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Scano (muted), Becky_Gibson, David_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre 20:02:12 +??P8 20:02:25 zakim, unknown is Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:02:25 +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it 20:02:33 zakim, ??P8 is Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:02:33 +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it 20:02:37 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 20:02:53 +??P9 20:03:02 +??P10 20:03:04 zakim, ??P9 is Cynthia_Shelly 20:03:05 +Sofia_Celic 20:03:06 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it 20:03:14 10 01zakim, ??P10 is rellero 20:03:21 zakim, P10 is Roberto_Ellero 20:03:21 sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named 'P10' 20:03:34 zakim, ??P10 is Roberto_Ellero 20:03:34 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 20:03:39 zakim, rellero is Roberto_Ellero 20:03:39 sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named 'rellero' 20:03:40 zakim, mute me 20:03:41 sorry, rellero_, I do not see a party named 'rellero_' 20:03:48 zakim, rellero_ is Roberto_Ellero 20:03:48 sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named 'rellero_' 20:03:50 Administrator has joined #wai-wcag 20:04:03 zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero 20:04:03 Roberto_Ellero should now be muted 20:04:05 agenda? 20:04:16 +Kerstin_Goldsmith 20:04:39 scribe: Andi 20:04:42 scribe: Andi 20:04:46 zakim, take up item 4 20:04:46 agendum 4. "Last Call Issues from Team C " taken up [from Michael] 20:05:47 resolution: accept proposals for LC-641 and LC-642 by unanimous consent 20:05:54 zakim, close this item 20:05:54 agendum 4 closed 20:05:55 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 20:05:57 1. Announcements, Questions, and Updates [from Michael] 20:05:58 zakim, take up item 3 20:05:58 agendum 3. "Last Call Issues from Team A " taken up [from Michael] 20:06:15 resolution: accept proposals for LC issues 743, 767, 791, 794, 814, 1317, 837, 846, 867, 900, 911, 922, 934, 935, 1098, 1100, 1101, 1138, 1150, 1151, 1156, 1161, 1163 by unanimous consent 20:06:37 topic: issue LC-925 20:08:29 zakim, mute Andi 20:08:29 Andi_Snow-Weaver should now be muted 20:11:01 -Roberto_Scano 20:11:49 rscano_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:12:00 +??P4 20:12:05 zakim, ??P4 is Roberto_Scano 20:12:05 +Roberto_Scano; got it 20:12:09 zakim, mute me 20:12:09 sorry, rscano_, I do not see a party named 'rscano_' 20:12:16 zakim i am Roberto_Scano 20:12:30 zakim, I am Roberto_Scano 20:12:30 ok, rscano_, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 20:12:38 zakim, mute me 20:12:38 Roberto_Scano should now be muted 20:18:22 Sorcha has joined #wai-wcag 20:18:25 -Kerstin_Goldsmith 20:18:39 +Kerstin_Goldsmith 20:18:48 resolution: accept proposal for LC-925 amended to include " NOTE: If multimedia is completely computer generated - it is not live and is subject to the requirements for pre-recorded multimedia in WCAG" 20:20:32 + +1.301.927.aabb 20:20:35 topic: LC-1086 20:22:05 resolution: accept proposal for LC-1086 for 2.1.1, amended as "Some people with hand tremors find using a mouse very difficult and therefore usually use a keyboard" 20:22:30 -Roberto_Scano 20:23:01 rscano__ has joined #wai-wcag 20:23:48 rscano__ has left #wai-wcag 20:23:59 rscano__ has joined #wai-wcag 20:25:05 topic: LC-1162 20:25:19 resolution: revise SC 1.4.2 to read, "A mechanism is available to turn off any audio that plays automatically, without requiring the user to turn off all system audio." 20:25:30 zakim, close this item 20:25:30 agendum 3 closed 20:25:31 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 20:25:32 1. Announcements, Questions, and Updates [from Michael] 20:25:35 zakim, take up item 2 20:25:35 agendum 2. "Last Call Issues from Editors for 06 July " taken up [from Michael] 20:26:42 topic LC-613 20:27:03 resolution: accept proposal for LC-613 as proposed 20:27:14 +Sorcha_Moore 20:28:00 topic: LC-781 20:28:09 apologies for late joining-I have been trying to log in through my normal skype method but it does not seem to want to work this evening! 20:29:08 rscano_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:31:34 resolution: accept LC-781 as amended: "The objective of this technique is to describe how using blank characters, such as space, tab, line break, or carriage return, to format individual words visually can be a failure to present meaningful sequences properly. When blank characters are inserted to control letter spacing within a word, they may change the interpretation of the word or cause it not to be programmatically recognized as a single word." 20:31:54 -Bruce_Bailey 20:33:24 topic: LC-817 20:33:37 +Bruce_Bailey 20:36:36 +[IPcaller] 20:36:38 -Sorcha_Moore 20:37:12 IP caller is Sorcha Moore 20:37:36 zakim, IPcaller is Sorcha_Moore 20:37:37 +Sorcha_Moore; got it 20:38:02 rscano__ has joined #wai-wcag 20:38:31 resolution: adopt LC-817 as amended 20:38:38 topic: LC-666 20:38:46 resolution: accept LC-666 as proposed 20:45:28 topic: LC-835 20:45:38 resolution: accept LC-835 as amended 20:46:38 zakim, mute bengt 20:46:38 Bengt_Farre should now be muted 20:47:04 zakim, unmute bengt 20:47:04 Bengt_Farre should no longer be muted 20:47:32 zakim, mute sorcha 20:47:32 Sorcha_Moore should now be muted 20:48:07 topic: LC-848 20:48:12 rscano_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:48:21 zakim, unmute sorcha 20:48:21 Sorcha_Moore should no longer be muted 20:49:00 zakim, Administrator is David 20:49:00 sorry, Administrator, I do not recognize a party named 'Administrator' 20:51:19 resolution: accept LC-848 as amended 20:51:29 zakim, mute rellero_ 20:51:29 sorry, Administrator, I do not see a party named 'rellero_' 20:52:09 topic: LC-850 20:56:37 -Don_Evans 20:57:05 -Bruce_Bailey 20:59:06 David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag 21:00:04 q+ 21:02:07 +Bruce_Bailey 21:02:34 -Roberto_Ellero 21:07:05 Refer LC-850 back to committee 21:07:11 topic: LC-882 21:14:50 resolution: accept LC-882 as amended "This requirement does not apply to individual words or phrases that have become part of the language of the phrase or passage in which they are used." 21:16:41 topic: Issue LC-952, Issue LC-1018 and Issue LC-1328 21:16:52 resolution: accept Issue LC-952, Issue LC-1018 and Issue LC-1328 as proposed 21:17:58 topic: LC-995 21:18:05 resolution: accept LC-995 as proposed 21:18:20 topic: LC-1175 21:23:51 resolution: accept LC-1175 as amended by Christophe 21:25:03 topic: LC-1180 21:25:06 -Tim_Boland 21:26:38 -Sorcha_Moore 21:26:52 +[IPcaller] 21:27:05 zakim, [IP is Sorcha_Moore 21:27:05 +Sorcha_Moore; got it 21:28:07 /me 21:28:07 information and sensory experience to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, as well as code or markup that define the structure, presentation, and interactions associated with those elements 21:30:37 resolution: accept LC-1180 21:31:03 topic: LC-1184 21:31:12 resolution: accept LC-1184 as proposed 21:34:54 topic: LC-1187 21:40:23 -Bruce_Bailey 21:42:25 +Bruce_Bailey 21:46:00 Refer LC-1177 back to committee 21:46:10 -Bruce_Bailey 21:46:11 action: Gregg, Michael, and Bruce to meet on LC-1187 21:46:23 topic: LC-1188 21:46:29 Refer LC-1188 back to committee 21:46:40 action: Gregg, Michael, and Bruce to meet on LC-1188 21:47:12 topic: LC-1256 21:47:13 +Bruce_Bailey 21:48:57 LC-1256 is on hold 21:49:22 topic: LC-1262 21:49:30 resolution: accept LC-1262 as proposed 21:54:49 +[IPcaller] 21:55:03 zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero 21:55:04 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 21:55:13 zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero 21:55:13 Roberto_Ellero should now be muted 21:58:00 -David_MacDonald 21:58:21 zakim, unmute me 21:58:21 Andi_Snow-Weaver should no longer be muted 22:01:57 -Andi_Snow-Weaver 22:05:16 -Sofia_Celic 22:05:18 -Sorcha_Moore 22:05:22 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 22:05:23 -Becky_Gibson 22:05:23 -Bruce_Bailey 22:05:25 -Gregg_Vanderheiden 22:05:25 -Cynthia_Shelly 22:05:26 Sorcha has left #wai-wcag 22:05:27 -Bengt_Farre 22:05:29 -Cooper 22:05:38 bengt has left #wai-wcag 22:06:04 Thanks Andi for scribing again! 22:06:08 I'll generate minutes 22:06:26 zakim, who's on the phone? 22:06:26 On the phone I see Kerstin_Goldsmith (muted), Roberto_Ellero (muted) 22:06:34 zakim, drop kerstin 22:06:34 Kerstin_Goldsmith is being disconnected 22:06:36 -Kerstin_Goldsmith 22:06:40 zakim, drop roberto 22:06:40 Roberto_Ellero is being disconnected 22:06:41 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 22:06:43 Attendees were Don_Evans, Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, +86106590aaaa, Roberto_Scano, Becky_Gibson, Andi_Snow-Weaver, David_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Gregg_Vanderheiden, 22:06:45 ... Sofia_Celic, Cynthia_Shelly, Roberto_Ellero, Kerstin_Goldsmith, +1.301.927.aabb, Tim_Boland, Sorcha_Moore, [IPcaller] 22:08:49 present: Bruce_Bailey, Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic, Michael_Cooper, Roberto_Ellero, Don_Evans, Bengt_Farre, Becky_Gibson, Kerstin_Goldsmith, Katie_Haritos-Shea, David_MacDonald, Sorcha_Moore, Roberto_Scano, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Gregg_Vanderheiden 22:08:57 rrsagent, bye 22:08:57 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 22:08:57 ACTION: Gregg, Michael, and Bruce to meet on LC-1187 [1] 22:08:57 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T21-46-11 22:08:57 ACTION: Gregg, Michael, and Bruce to meet on LC-1188 [2] 22:08:57 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T21-46-40