IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-07-06

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rrsagent, make log world
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meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines
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chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
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agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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agenda+ Last Call Issues from Editors for 22 June <>
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zakim, ??P3 is Ben_and_Gregg
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+Ben_and_Gregg; got it
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agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 29 June <>
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zakim, ??P4 is Roberto_Scano
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+Roberto_Scano; got it
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agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 06 July <>
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zakim, i am Roberto_Scano
19:58:55 [Zakim]
ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
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zakim, mute me
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Roberto_Scano should now be muted
19:59:19 [Michael]
agenda+ Last Call Issues from Editors for 06 July <>
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zakim, mit528 is Michael_Cooper
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+Michael_Cooper; got it
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zakim, [MIT528 is rellero
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sorry, rellero_, I do not recognize a party named '[MIT528'
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+ +073573aaaa
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zakim, +073 is Bengt_Farre
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+Bengt_Farre; got it
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zakim Judy+Michael is Judy_Brewer
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+ +1.301.774.aabb
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zakim, +1.301 is Tim_Boland
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+Tim_Boland; got it
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zakim, ??P10 is relleo
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+relleo; got it
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zakim, ??P12 is Sorcha_Moore
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+Sorcha_Moore; got it
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Zakim, relleo is roberto_ellero
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+roberto_ellero; got it
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zakim, mute roberto_ellero
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roberto_ellero should now be muted
20:05:10 [rellero_]
zakim, mute roberto_ellero
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roberto_ellero was already muted, rellero_
20:05:20 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:05:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ben_and_Gregg, Roberto_Scano (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic (muted), Bengt_Farre, Judy+Michael, Sorcha_Moore, Tim_Boland,
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... roberto_ellero (muted)
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zakim Judy+Michael is Judy_Brewer
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zakim Judy is Judy_Brewer
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zakim, Judy+Michael is Judy_Brewer
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+Judy_Brewer; got it
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zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Michael]
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scribe: Andi
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ack j
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ack judy
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topic: Editors Survey 22 June, 2006
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Topic: LC-687 accepted by unanimous consent
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Resolution: LC-1412, LC-1405, LC-1232, LC-1216 accepted as proposed by unanimous consent
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2. "Last Call Issues from Editors for 22 June <>" taken up [from Michael]
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20:17:06 [Andi]
LC-663, LC-722, LC-855, LC-907, LC-952, LC-999, LC-1004, LC-1005, LC-1177, LC-1181, LC-1184, LC-1185, LC-1186, LC-1189, LC-1191, LC-1261, LC-1262, Failure/SC inconsistency in 1.4.2 accepted as proposed via unanimous consent
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topic: Editors Survey 22 June, 2006
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topic: LC-660
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zakim, ??P14 is Makoto_Ueki
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+Makoto_Ueki; got it
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resolution: accept LC-660 as amended
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topic: LC-685
20:24:10 [judy]
q+ to note the availability of for wcag 1.0, can be updated
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ack j
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judy, you wanted to note the availability of for wcag 1.0, can be updated
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ack j
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zakim, Gabriele is Christophe_Strobbe
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+Christophe_Strobbe; got it
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20:30:44 [Andi]
resolution: accept LC-685 as currently amended
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topic: LC-738
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resolution: accept LC-738 as proposed and fix two other bullets
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topic: LC-785
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resolution: accept LC-785 as currently revised
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topic: LC-793
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resolution: accept LC-793 as currently revised
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zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
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+Makoto_Ueki; got it
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topic: LC-800
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resolution: accept LC-800 as currently written
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 29 June <>" taken up [from Michael]
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topic: LC-659
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zakim, ??P4 is Makoto_Ueki
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+Makoto_Ueki; got it
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action: Michael to talk to Shawn about what to do about techniques that are attached to guidelines, not success criteria
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resolution: put LC-659 on hold to be addressed with other font legibility issues
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Topic: LC-700
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zakim, administrator is David
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sorry, Administrator, I do not recognize a party named 'administrator'
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ack c
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resolution: accept LC-700 as proposed
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topic: LC-728
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resolution: accept LC-728 with Christophe's edit for the second to last sentence.
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topic: LC-741
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action: Gregg to check with Eric Hanson to clarify LC-741
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resolution: accept LC-741 as proposed
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topic: LC-774
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resolution: accept LC-774 as proposed
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 06 July <>" taken up [from Michael]
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topic: LC-743
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resolution: accept LC-743 as proposed except labeled "not accept"
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topic: LC-790
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zakim, ??P0 is Cynthia_Shelly
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+Cynthia_Shelly; got it
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zakim, ??P1 is Sorcha_Moore
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+Sorcha_Moore; got it
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q+ to say "This is about benefits, not requirements."
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ack ??P0
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resolution: revise 1.1.1 benefit to read, "People who are deaf, are hard of hearing, or who are having trouble understanding audio information for any reason can read the text presentation. Research is ongoing regarding automatic translation of text into sign language."
21:49:28 [Andi]
resolution: revise 1.2.4 note to read, "Captions may be generated using real-time text translation service." (remove parenthetical)
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topic: LC-1163
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resolution: accept LC-1163 as proposed
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topic: LC-1277
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resolution: accept LC-1277 as proposed
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate Michael
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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Ben_and_Gregg, Roberto_Scano, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, David, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic, +073573aaaa, Bengt_Farre, +1.301.774.aabb, Tim_Boland, Sorcha_Moore,
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... roberto_ellero, Judy_Brewer, Makoto_Ueki, Gabriele_Bartolini, Christophe_Strobbe, David_MacDonald, Cynthia_Shelly
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22:02:33 [Michael]
zakim, who's on the phone?
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apparently WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended, Michael
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, ben, Michael
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Present: Ben_Caldwell, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Roberto_Scano, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Alex_Li, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Selic, Bengt_Farre, Tim_Boland, Sorcha_Moore, Roberto_Ellero, Judy_Brewer, Makoto_Ueki, Christophe_Strobbe, Cynthia_Shelly
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zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 2 open action items saved in :
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ACTION: Michael to talk to Shawn about what to do about techniques that are attached to guidelines, not success criteria [1]
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recorded in
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ACTION: Gregg to check with Eric Hanson to clarify LC-741 [2]
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recorded in