IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-06-22
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc
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- 19:42:20 [ben]
- RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006AprJun/0367.html
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- Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden and Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- agenda+ Announcements
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- agenda+ [DRAFT] WCAG 2.0 Test Samples Development Task Force (TSD TF) Work
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- Statement
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- agenda+ [DRAFT] WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force Work Statement
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- agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team C for 22 June
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- agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 22 June
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- agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team B for 22 June
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- agenda+ Last Call Issues from Editors for 22 June
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- rrsagent, off
- 20:22:06 [becka11y]
- Resoluton: Accept items ( see Unanimous Consent Items: posted by Ben) where all survey participants agreed with the proposal.
- 20:22:20 [ben]
- agenda?
- 20:22:27 [ben]
- RRSAgent, take up agendum 4
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- I'm logging. I don't understand 'take up agendum 4', ben. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 20:22:35 [ben]
- Zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4. "Last Call Issues from Team C for 22 June" taken up [from ben]
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- Topic: LC-558
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -rellero
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakm, [IPcaller is rellero
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- zakim, [IPcaller is rellero_
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- +rellero_; got it
- 20:27:36 [ben]
- zakim, mute rellero
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- rellero_ should now be muted
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 20:27:39 [rellero_]
- zakim, mute me
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- rellero_ was already muted, rellero_
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:35:00 [becka11y]
- Resolution: Put issue LC-558 on hold for possible addtional public comments.
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- Topic: Issue LC-600
- 20:36:35 [becka11y]
- Resolution: Adopt Resolution for LC-600 with ammended comment: "Thus, it is important not to rely on CSS to visually position content in a specific sequence if this sequence results in a meaning that is different from the programmatically determined reading order."
- 20:36:59 [becka11y]
- Topic: Issue LC-629
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- +??P14
- 20:45:05 [becka11y]
- Resolution: Update first sentence of resolution to replace "addition" to "use": "This success criterion does not prevent the use of programmatic information which can be used by AT or the user agent to identify and provide error information." Accept the resolution in principle. Action for Christophe to make this information clear in the How to Meet document. Issue stays open until action item is complete.
- 20:46:12 [becka11y]
- Action: Christophe update How To Meet for 2.5.1 to explain the use of programmitic information to provide error text.
- 20:46:39 [becka11y]
- Topic: Issue LC-630
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Don_Evans
- 20:54:57 [gregg]
- ack al
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- ack lor
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- ack l
- 21:07:46 [becka11y]
- Resolution for Issue LC-630: Group agrees in principle with the response to not update the SC text. Update response text "suggestions for error correct" with "suggetions for error correction", Leave open and assign to Loretta to work out final language for HTM doc.
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- Topic: LC-631
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- Topic: Issue LC-631
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- Resolution: Put issue 631 on hold in the "AT push" category. Assign action to Loretta to address this issue.
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- Topic: Issue LC-632
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- Resolution: Put issue 632 on hold in the "AT push" category. Assign action to Loretta to address this issue.
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- Action: Loretta to work on Issues 630, 631, and 632.
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- Topic: Issue LC-587
- 21:14:46 [ben]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 21:14:46 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Judy, Becky_Gibson, Sofia_Celic (muted), Wendy, David_MacDonald, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe,
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- ... Alex_Li, Sorcha_Moore, Katie_Haritos_Shea, Tim_Boland, rellero_ (muted), ??P14, Bruce_Bailey
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- Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- zakim, ??P14 is Cynthia_Shelly
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- +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Tim_Boland
- 21:19:46 [Michael]
- q+ to say this sounds like a task for the EO task force
- 21:19:59 [judy]
- q+
- 21:21:40 [judy]
- q+ to comment on some current difficulties using the mapping, and note that EOWG is sending (today) comments on how to improve the mapping so that it is more usable
- 21:21:51 [gregg]
- ack m
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- Michael_Cooper, you wanted to say this sounds like a task for the EO task force
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- ack j
- 21:22:07 [Zakim]
- judy, you wanted to comment on some current difficulties using the mapping, and note that EOWG is sending (today) comments on how to improve the mapping so that it is more usable
- 21:26:43 [wendy]
- ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
- 21:28:23 [gregg]
- ack b
- 21:28:24 [Andi]
- q+
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- ACK A
- 21:32:16 [becka11y]
- Resolution: Do not accept the proposed resolution for LC-587. Action item to Gregg, Bruce, Becky to see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1
- 21:32:24 [ben]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
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- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 5. Last Call Issues from Team A for 22 June [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 5
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- agendum 5. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 22 June" taken up [from ben]
- 21:32:55 [becka11y]
- Updated Resolution: Do not accept the proposed resolution for LC-587. Action item to Gregg, Bruce, Becky to see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1 addresses labelling form elements.
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- Action: Gregg, Bruce, Becky to address issue 587 and see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1 addresses labelling form elements.
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- Topic: Issue LC-534
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- Resolution: Accept proposal for issue LC 534 as edited.
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- Topic: Issue LC-580
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- zakim, mute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
- 21:41:28 [gregg]
- ACK LOR
- 21:43:33 [becka11y]
- Resolution: Accept issue 587 as proposed but put on hold for overall luminosity review.
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- Topic: Issue LC-598
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- Resolution: accept proposal for issue 598 with edits suggested by Bruce.
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- Topic: Issue LC-614
- 21:47:16 [becka11y]
- Resolution: Put issue 614 on hold in category of "level descriptions" so we can look at all the level related issues together.
- 21:47:33 [Christophe]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
- 21:47:38 [becka11y]
- Topic: Issue LC-617
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- Resolution: Accept issue 617 as propsed with an action item to implement Christophe's suggestion implemented: "Can we change that bullet in Appendix D from "if style sheets are in your baseline, WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 6.1 is not required;" to "if style sheets are in your baseline, WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 6.1 is not required, but the meaning of the content must not depend on CSS positioning (SC 1.3.3);" in order to avoid confusion in the future?"
- 21:50:24 [becka11y]
- Topic: Issue LC-637
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- q+
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- q-
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- Resolution: Issue 637 is referred back to team A.
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- Topic: Issue LC-663
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- Resolution: Issue 663 is referred back to team A to review comments from survey.
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- -rellero_
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- Topic: Issue 718
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- ack Bru
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- ACK BRU
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- ack lor
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- q+
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- -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- gregg?
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- Q?
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- ACK B
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- -Alex_Li
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Wendy
- 22:11:36 [becka11y]
- Issue 718 remains open - we will pick up here next week.
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- -Michael_Cooper
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- -Katie_Haritos_Shea
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- -Judy
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- -Sorcha_Moore
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- Present: Shawn_Henry, Judy_Brewer, Becky_Gibson, Sofia_Celic, Wendy_Chisholm, David_MacDonald, Don_Evans, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Sorcha_Moore, Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos_Shea, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly
- 22:25:13 [ben]
- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Christophe update How To Meet for 2.5.1 to explain the use of programmitic information to provide error text. [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc#T20-46-12
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- ACTION: Loretta to work on Issues 630, 631, and 632. [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc#T21-11-00
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- ACTION: Gregg, Bruce, Becky to address issue 587 and see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1 addresses labelling form elements. [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc#T21-33-44