19:41:45 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:41:45 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc 19:42:11 Zakim has joined #wai-wcag 19:42:20 RRSAgent, do not start a new log 19:42:27 Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon 19:42:34 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006AprJun/0367.html 19:42:40 Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden and Loretta_Guarino_Reid 19:42:46 agenda+ Announcements 19:42:53 agenda+ [DRAFT] WCAG 2.0 Test Samples Development Task Force (TSD TF) Work 19:42:53 Statement 19:43:03 agenda+ [DRAFT] WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force Work Statement 19:43:11 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team C for 22 June 19:43:17 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 22 June 19:43:22 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team B for 22 June 19:43:26 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Editors for 22 June 19:43:43 rrsagent, off 20:22:06 Resoluton: Accept items ( see Unanimous Consent Items: posted by Ben) where all survey participants agreed with the proposal. 20:22:20 agenda? 20:22:27 RRSAgent, take up agendum 4 20:22:27 I'm logging. I don't understand 'take up agendum 4', ben. Try /msg RRSAgent help 20:22:35 Zakim, take up agendum 4 20:22:36 agendum 4. "Last Call Issues from Team C for 22 June" taken up [from ben] 20:24:02 -Bruce_Bailey 20:24:06 Topic: LC-558 20:24:44 +Bruce_Bailey 20:25:26 rellero_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:25:41 -rellero 20:26:29 rellero_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:27:15 +[IPcaller] 20:27:20 zakm, [IPcaller is rellero 20:27:31 zakim, [IPcaller is rellero_ 20:27:31 +rellero_; got it 20:27:36 zakim, mute rellero 20:27:36 rellero_ should now be muted 20:27:37 -Bruce_Bailey 20:27:39 zakim, mute me 20:27:39 rellero_ was already muted, rellero_ 20:28:38 +Bruce_Bailey 20:35:00 Resolution: Put issue LC-558 on hold for possible addtional public comments. 20:35:10 Topic: Issue LC-600 20:36:35 Resolution: Adopt Resolution for LC-600 with ammended comment: "Thus, it is important not to rely on CSS to visually position content in a specific sequence if this sequence results in a meaning that is different from the programmatically determined reading order." 20:36:59 Topic: Issue LC-629 20:40:15 +??P14 20:45:05 Resolution: Update first sentence of resolution to replace "addition" to "use": "This success criterion does not prevent the use of programmatic information which can be used by AT or the user agent to identify and provide error information." Accept the resolution in principle. Action for Christophe to make this information clear in the How to Meet document. Issue stays open until action item is complete. 20:46:12 Action: Christophe update How To Meet for 2.5.1 to explain the use of programmitic information to provide error text. 20:46:39 Topic: Issue LC-630 20:50:17 -Bruce_Bailey 20:51:16 +Bruce_Bailey 20:54:27 -Don_Evans 20:54:57 ack al 20:56:27 ack lor 21:02:02 ack l 21:07:46 Resolution for Issue LC-630: Group agrees in principle with the response to not update the SC text. Update response text "suggestions for error correct" with "suggetions for error correction", Leave open and assign to Loretta to work out final language for HTM doc. 21:07:50 Topic: LC-631 21:08:14 Topic: Issue LC-631 21:09:13 Resolution: Put issue 631 on hold in the "AT push" category. Assign action to Loretta to address this issue. 21:09:24 Topic: Issue LC-632 21:09:41 Resolution: Put issue 632 on hold in the "AT push" category. Assign action to Loretta to address this issue. 21:10:09 -Bruce_Bailey 21:11:00 Action: Loretta to work on Issues 630, 631, and 632. 21:11:23 +Bruce_Bailey 21:11:58 Topic: Issue LC-587 21:14:46 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:14:46 On the phone I see Judy, Becky_Gibson, Sofia_Celic (muted), Wendy, David_MacDonald, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe, 21:14:50 ... Alex_Li, Sorcha_Moore, Katie_Haritos_Shea, Tim_Boland, rellero_ (muted), ??P14, Bruce_Bailey 21:14:52 Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden 21:15:31 -Bruce_Bailey 21:15:35 zakim, ??P14 is Cynthia_Shelly 21:15:35 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it 21:16:36 +Bruce_Bailey 21:17:42 -Tim_Boland 21:19:46 q+ to say this sounds like a task for the EO task force 21:19:59 q+ 21:21:40 q+ to comment on some current difficulties using the mapping, and note that EOWG is sending (today) comments on how to improve the mapping so that it is more usable 21:21:51 ack m 21:21:51 Michael_Cooper, you wanted to say this sounds like a task for the EO task force 21:22:07 ack j 21:22:07 judy, you wanted to comment on some current difficulties using the mapping, and note that EOWG is sending (today) comments on how to improve the mapping so that it is more usable 21:26:43 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 21:28:23 ack b 21:28:24 q+ 21:29:00 ACK A 21:32:16 Resolution: Do not accept the proposed resolution for LC-587. Action item to Gregg, Bruce, Becky to see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1 21:32:24 zakim, close this item 21:32:24 agendum 4 closed 21:32:25 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 21:32:26 5. Last Call Issues from Team A for 22 June [from ben] 21:32:28 zakim, take up agendum 5 21:32:28 agendum 5. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 22 June" taken up [from ben] 21:32:55 Updated Resolution: Do not accept the proposed resolution for LC-587. Action item to Gregg, Bruce, Becky to see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1 addresses labelling form elements. 21:33:44 Action: Gregg, Bruce, Becky to address issue 587 and see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1 addresses labelling form elements. 21:35:05 Topic: Issue LC-534 21:35:34 Resolution: Accept proposal for issue LC 534 as edited. 21:35:55 Topic: Issue LC-580 21:37:30 zakim, mute me 21:37:30 Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted 21:41:28 ACK LOR 21:43:33 Resolution: Accept issue 587 as proposed but put on hold for overall luminosity review. 21:44:14 Topic: Issue LC-598 21:44:46 Resolution: accept proposal for issue 598 with edits suggested by Bruce. 21:45:11 Topic: Issue LC-614 21:47:16 Resolution: Put issue 614 on hold in category of "level descriptions" so we can look at all the level related issues together. 21:47:33 zakim, unmute me 21:47:33 Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted 21:47:38 Topic: Issue LC-617 21:50:02 Resolution: Accept issue 617 as propsed with an action item to implement Christophe's suggestion implemented: "Can we change that bullet in Appendix D from "if style sheets are in your baseline, WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 6.1 is not required;" to "if style sheets are in your baseline, WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 6.1 is not required, but the meaning of the content must not depend on CSS positioning (SC 1.3.3);" in order to avoid confusion in the future?" 21:50:24 Topic: Issue LC-637 21:54:28 q+ 21:57:08 q- 21:58:38 Resolution: Issue 637 is referred back to team A. 22:00:08 Topic: Issue LC-663 22:00:36 Resolution: Issue 663 is referred back to team A to review comments from survey. 22:01:46 -rellero_ 22:01:50 Topic: Issue 718 22:02:57 ack Bru 22:02:58 ACK BRU 22:03:01 ack lor 22:03:02 q+ 22:03:39 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 22:05:50 gregg? 22:06:35 Q? 22:07:41 ACK B 22:08:51 -Alex_Li 22:10:14 -Sofia_Celic 22:11:02 -Wendy 22:11:36 Issue 718 remains open - we will pick up here next week. 22:11:46 -Michael_Cooper 22:11:47 -David_MacDonald 22:11:49 -Christophe_Strobbe 22:11:49 -Bruce_Bailey 22:11:50 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 22:11:51 -Cynthia_Shelly 22:11:53 -Katie_Haritos_Shea 22:11:54 -Ben_Caldwell 22:11:55 -Judy 22:12:08 -Sorcha_Moore 22:12:49 becka11y has left #wai-wcag 22:14:30 + +1.415.832.aaaa 22:14:58 - +1.415.832.aaaa 22:15:06 Sorcha has left #wai-wcag 22:15:13 Christophe has left #wai-wcag 22:16:03 Present: Shawn_Henry, Judy_Brewer, Becky_Gibson, Sofia_Celic, Wendy_Chisholm, David_MacDonald, Don_Evans, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Sorcha_Moore, Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos_Shea, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly 22:25:13 RRSAgent, bye 22:25:13 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 22:25:13 ACTION: Christophe update How To Meet for 2.5.1 to explain the use of programmitic information to provide error text. [1] 22:25:13 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc#T20-46-12 22:25:13 ACTION: Loretta to work on Issues 630, 631, and 632. [2] 22:25:13 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc#T21-11-00 22:25:13 ACTION: Gregg, Bruce, Becky to address issue 587 and see if it can be made clearer that 1.3.1 addresses labelling form elements. [3] 22:25:13 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-wai-wcag-irc#T21-33-44