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15:40:52 <raphael> Meeting: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 22-06-2006
15:41:11 <raphael> Scribe: raphael
15:41:33 <raphael> ScribeNick: raphael
15:42:52 <raphael> Chair: Jeff
15:43:37 <raphael> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jun/0006.html
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15:48:53 <JeffP> Hi Raphael
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15:56:08 <pasquale> hi all from pasquale
15:56:10 <raphael> zakim, what conferences
15:56:10 <Zakim> raphael, you need to end that query with '?'
15:56:12 <raphael> zakim, what conferences?
15:56:12 <Zakim> I see INC_MMSEM()12:00PM, DIG_TAMI()11:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM, XML_PMWG()11:00AM active
15:56:14 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are WAI_Team()10:45AM, GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, WS_DescWG()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, I18N_Core_WG(WS-I18N)11:00AM, SYMM_TTWG()12:00PM
15:56:37 <alessio> hi all
15:56:38 <JeffP> Hi pasquale
15:56:44 <raphael> zakim, this conference is INC_MMSEM
15:56:44 <Zakim> ok, raphael; that matches INC_MMSEM()12:00PM
15:56:59 <raphael> Meeting: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 22-06-2006
15:56:59 <Zakim> + +49.261.287.aaaa
15:57:06 <Zakim> -??P2
15:57:08 <raphael> Chair: Jeff
15:57:11 <raphael> ScribeNick: raphael
15:57:14 <raphael> Scribe: raphael
15:57:16 <raphael> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jun/0006.html
15:57:29 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
15:57:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see +49.261.287.aaaa
15:57:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see pasquale, TastenTom, alessio, ipratika, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, iavr
15:57:48 <Zakim> +??P2
15:58:14 <Zakim> +??P11
15:58:21 <JeffP> Zakim, ??P2 is me
15:58:21 <Zakim> +JeffP; got it
15:58:28 <raphael> zakim, +??P11 is me
15:58:28 <Zakim> sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '+??P11'
15:58:59 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
15:59:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +49.261.287.aaaa, JeffP, ??P11
15:59:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see pasquale, TastenTom, alessio, ipratika, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, iavr
15:59:31 <raphael> zakim, ??P11 is raphael
15:59:31 <Zakim> +raphael; got it
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16:00:01 <raphael> zakim, 49.261.287.aaaa is Thomas
16:00:01 <Zakim> sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '49.261.287.aaaa'
16:00:06 <raphael> zakim, +49.261.287.aaaa is Thomas
16:00:06 <Zakim> +Thomas; got it
16:00:12 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
16:00:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see Thomas, JeffP, raphael
16:00:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see chalaschek, patriziaasirelli, pasquale, TastenTom, alessio, ipratika, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, iavr
16:00:47 <Zakim> +Chris_Halaschek-Wiener
16:00:54 <raphael> could you please all join us on the phone ?
16:00:58 <Zakim> +??P4
16:01:19 <Zakim> +??P13
16:01:32 <pasquale> zakim, ??p13 is pasquale
16:01:32 <Zakim> +pasquale; got it
16:01:36 <raphael> zakim, ??P13 is Pasquale
16:01:36 <Zakim> I already had ??P13 as pasquale, raphael
16:01:42 <alessio> i'm sorry... today i can't use the bridge
16:02:22 <VassilisTzouvaras> VassilisTzouvaras has joined #mmsem
16:02:44 <raphael> zakim, ??P4 is Melliyal 
16:02:44 <Zakim> +Melliyal; got it
16:02:48 <Zakim> + +39.050.315.aabb
16:03:13 <patriziaasirelli> hi all, I'm Patrizia Asirelli and with me there is also Massimo Martinelli
16:03:29 <raphael> zakim, +39.050.315.aabb is Patrizia
16:03:29 <Zakim> +Patrizia; got it
16:03:53 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
16:03:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see Thomas, JeffP, raphael, Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Melliyal, pasquale, Patrizia
16:03:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see VassilisTzouvaras, chalaschek, patriziaasirelli, pasquale, TastenTom, alessio, ipratika, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, iavr
16:04:17 <Zakim> + +30210803aacc
16:04:41 <raphael> zakim, +30210803aacc is Yiannis
16:04:41 <Zakim> +Yiannis; got it
16:04:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:05:06 <raphael> zakim, +[IPcaller] is Giovanni
16:05:06 <Zakim> sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
16:05:11 <raphael> zakim, [IPcaller] is Giovanni
16:05:11 <Zakim> +Giovanni; got it
16:05:29 <Zakim> + +681302aadd
16:05:49 <iavr> the name is Yannis, not Yiannis :-)
16:05:59 <raphael> zakim, +681302aadd is Paul
16:05:59 <Zakim> +Paul; got it
16:06:03 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
16:06:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Thomas, JeffP, raphael, Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Melliyal, pasquale, Patrizia, Yiannis, Giovanni, Paul
16:06:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see VassilisTzouvaras, chalaschek, patriziaasirelli, pasquale, TastenTom, alessio, ipratika, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, iavr
16:06:34 <thristo> thristo has joined #mmsem
16:06:44 <Zakim> +[IVML]
16:07:17 <TastenTom> TastenTom has left #mmsem
16:07:21 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, ivml is VassilisTzouvaras
16:07:21 <Zakim> +VassilisTzouvaras; got it
16:07:34 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
16:07:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Thomas, JeffP, raphael, Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Melliyal, pasquale, Patrizia, Yiannis, Giovanni, Paul, VassilisTzouvaras
16:07:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see thristo, VassilisTzouvaras, chalaschek, patriziaasirelli, pasquale, alessio, ipratika, JeffP, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, iavr
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16:08:21 <raphael> Topic: 1. Admin
16:08:48 <raphael> Regrets: Jacco, Susanne, Geroge
16:08:59 <pasquale> regrets also roberto ellero
16:09:13 <giovannit> giovannit has joined #mmsem
16:09:18 <raphael> Agenda approved
16:09:20 <giovannit> hello
16:09:23 <giovannit> :-)
16:10:45 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, mute me
16:10:45 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should now be muted
16:13:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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16:13:53 <raphael> Overall goal of this XG: give advice to the W3C, what to do with the multimedia topic in general ? WG ? Recommendation Track ?
16:14:09 <raphael> Topic: 2. XG Updates
16:14:14 <raphael> Self presentation!
16:14:50 <raphael> Raphael: CWI, Amsterdam, interest in multimedia ontologies, aligning ontologies, interoperability problems with several multimedia vocabularies
16:15:15 <jacco> jacco has joined #mmsem
16:15:23 <raphael> Jeff Z. Pan, lecturer in University of Aberden, interest in formal logic, RDF
16:15:29 <ipratika> I’m Ioannis Pratikakis, working as a Research Scientist at the Institute of Informatics and Telecommunications of the NCSR “Demokritos”, Athens, Greece. My research interests include content-based multimedia search and retrieval as well as knowledge-driven multimedia analysis concerning modalities like images, video and 3D graphics.
16:16:20 <giovannit> is this logged/wikied?
16:17:04 <jacco> yes, this is logged
16:17:19 <raphael> Thomas: University of Koblenz, DE, work in aceMedia, XMedia, and K-Space. Liaison work for Koblenz between the XG and these projects
16:17:27 <jacco> rrsagent, pointer
16:17:27 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-irc#T16-17-27
16:17:34 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, unmute me
16:17:34 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should no longer be muted
16:18:14 <raphael> K-Space member of W3C from July 1st officially
16:18:28 <jacco> rrsagent, make notes public
16:18:28 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make notes public', jacco.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:18:42 <jacco> rrsagent, make minutes public
16:18:42 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', jacco.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:19:17 <raphael> Vassilis: NTUA, Greece. Interest: multimedia semantics, fuzzy description logics
16:20:03 <raphael> Giorgos: knowledge technologies for multimedia, uncertainty
16:20:37 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, mute me
16:20:37 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should now be muted
16:20:45 <raphael> Chris: University of Maryland, US. Interest: image annotation using ontologies
16:20:56 <jacco> rrsagent, make logs public
16:21:37 <raphael> Melliyal, Oracle, US. Interest: work on semantics, how semantics can be used for better search of media items, interoperability of metadata
16:22:47 <raphael> Pasquale, Napoli, Italy, EU: Web accessible specialist, maintain the Italian Semantic Web portal
16:23:49 <giovannit> what is the order? web page ?  which web page? :-) such a newbie.. sorry
16:24:18 <raphael> Patrizia, CNR, Pisa, Italy: work in the MUSCLE NoE
16:24:27 <Zakim> -VassilisTzouvaras
16:24:59 <raphael> Massimo, CNR, Pisa, Italy: MUSCLE project, interest in ontologies and multimedia
16:25:24 <Zakim> +VassilisTzouvaras
16:25:38 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, mute me
16:25:38 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should now be muted
16:26:17 <alessio> I'm Alessio Cartocci, an italian senior consultant in accessibility, web standards and multimedia application. As IWA Italy member i partecipate to the project "Webaccessibile". My research interests are semantics, media streaming and distribution, cross-links between standards, accessibility and cultural projects.
16:26:28 <alessio> :-)
16:27:50 <raphael> Yiannis, NTUA, Greece: image processing and analysis; has been involved in several projects dealing with multimedia and SW technologies (aceMedia, K-Space, MeSH, XMedia); local organizer of the SAMT conference
16:28:13 <JeffP> q?
16:29:51 <raphael> Giovanni, University of Ancona, Italy. Interests: interoperability MPEG-7/RDF, Peer to Peer technologies
16:31:11 <thristo> ovviamente si
16:31:14 <iavr> zakim, Yiannis is Yannis
16:31:14 <Zakim> +Yannis; got it
16:31:18 <thristo> ops...
16:32:15 <raphael> Paul, DFKI, DE: represents Thierry and Stefan. Expertise in linguistic technologies, connection between linguistics descriptors and images descriptors and ontologies
16:32:57 <thristo> I'm Christian Morbodoni from University of Ancona Italy, I'm doing my PhD and I work with Giovanni, so I think He already said the important things...
16:33:40 <raphael> Topic: 3. LIAISON SWBPD
16:33:44 <giovannit> resources that might be of interest to define our backgroup (Semedia) http://dbin.org - Semantic Web rich client featuring P2P for rdf annotations exchange  http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg7audiodb   http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg7audioenc Extraction and processing of MPEG-7 audio metadata
16:34:09 <patriziaasirelli> we would have to say that Ovidio Salvetti is in our group and he will register as member as well
16:34:57 <raphael> Image Semantic on the Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html
16:36:18 <chalaschek> This is fine with me.
16:36:24 <Melli> Yes.
16:36:28 <pasquale> ok
16:36:30 <patriziaasirelli> this is fine for us 
16:36:31 <TastenTom> its fine, ok
16:36:32 <giovannit> ok
16:36:34 <thristo> yup
16:36:34 <raphael> Accept ownership of the documents produced by the SWBPD MM Task Force
16:37:02 <raphael> ?
16:37:17 <giovannit> where do i find a definition of "accepting the ownership"  ? :-)
16:37:18 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, unmute me
16:37:18 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should no longer be muted
16:37:44 <raphael> RESOLVED
16:38:27 <JeffP> who is talking?
16:38:28 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, mute me
16:38:28 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should now be muted
16:38:48 <raphael> Views / Expectations of this XG
16:41:55 <raphael> Thomas: representation of multimedia metadata, different aspect of multimedia metadata, multimedia ontologies (DOLCE, MPEG-7)
16:42:54 <raphael> Chris: following the work done in the MM TF
16:43:28 <raphael> Melliyal: show practically how semantics can be useful ! showcase, killer application
16:43:44 <giovannit> +1  for real applications
16:44:30 <raphael> Pasquale: web accessibility (combine knowledge) ... don't get the end :-(
16:44:57 <pasquale> My desire: an accessible Web more Semantic, and a Semantic Web more accessible ;-)
16:45:14 <raphael> Patrizia: Retrieval of multimeia content, inference
16:46:56 <raphael> Yiannis: automatic analysis, automatic annotation of images, News Video (TrecVideo), many vocabularies used
16:48:13 <raphael> Giovanni: real applications, real use cases where semantics is needed in multmedia applications
16:49:43 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, unmute me
16:49:43 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should no longer be muted
16:49:44 <raphael> Paul: automatic annotation (video and images)
16:50:07 <Zakim> -VassilisTzouvaras
16:50:12 <raphael> Vassilis: continue the work of the MM TF
16:50:32 <VassilisTzouvaras> sorry my line was droped
16:51:02 <VassilisTzouvaras> but I wanted to point the interoperability issue in the cultural domain
16:51:19 <VassilisTzouvaras> and the multilinguality issue
16:52:04 <Zakim> +VassilisTzouvaras
16:52:59 <raphael> Rapahel & Jacco: use case, guidelines, best practices for adding a semantic layer (RDF) on top of the many existing multimedia standards, vocabularies, format
16:53:18 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, mute me
16:53:18 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should now be muted
16:53:24 <raphael> Topic: 4. Face 2 Face 
16:53:29 <raphael> only 4 answers so far
16:54:18 <giovannit> Me and Christian Morbidoni will be in Amsterdam, no matter if we can reach the form or not :-) (we dont have the password)
16:54:32 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, unmute me
16:54:32 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should no longer be muted
16:54:33 <raphael> ok Giovanni, thanks
16:55:08 <patriziaasirelli> I have tried to register but I think I need to become a member first?
16:55:31 <raphael> yes Patrizia, just you will come in Amsterdam from Pisa ?
16:55:36 <TastenTom> i also don't have an account yet but i am going to participate in the F2F meeting!
16:55:47 <raphael> ok, thanks Tom !
16:55:56 <Melli> I apologize that I will not be able to make it to this face-to-face meeting, I will also fill the form.
16:56:32 <patriziaasirelli> I intnd to come, I an not 100% sure yet
16:56:32 <raphael> ok, thanks Melli, the next F2F will be hopefully in US, more convenient for you :-)
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16:57:13 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, mute me
16:57:13 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should now be muted
16:59:57 <VassilisTzouvaras> zakim, unmute me
16:59:58 <Zakim> VassilisTzouvaras should no longer be muted
17:00:31 <raphael> ACTION: Jeff, Raphael to propose the first draft of the F2F meeting agenda
17:00:37 <raphael> TOPIC: 5. AOB
17:00:48 <raphael> USE the PUBLIC mailling list !
17:01:26 <Zakim> -VassilisTzouvaras
17:01:27 <Zakim> -Melliyal
17:01:27 <Zakim> -Patrizia
17:01:28 <Zakim> -Paul
17:01:29 <Zakim> -Chris_Halaschek-Wiener
17:01:31 <Zakim> -Yannis
17:01:32 <Zakim> -raphael
17:01:34 <Zakim> -pasquale
17:01:35 <Zakim> -Thomas
17:01:35 <Zakim> -Giovanni
17:01:37 <Zakim> -JeffP
17:01:53 <ipratika> ipratika
17:02:05 <raphael> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:02:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html raphael
17:02:14 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
17:02:15 <Zakim> INC_MMSEM()12:00PM has ended
17:02:17 <Zakim> Attendees were JeffP, raphael, Thomas, Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, pasquale, Melliyal, Patrizia, Giovanni, Paul, VassilisTzouvaras, [IPcaller], Yannis
17:02:24 <raphael> rrsagent, make minutes public
17:02:24 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', raphael.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:03:37 <TastenTom> for the F2F meeting, i don't know yet when and where exactly it takes place. could someone tell me please?
17:04:40 <jacco> raphael, minutes are already public
17:05:21 <Massimo> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jun/0002.html  (F2F)
17:05:38 <raphael> rrsagent, make logs public
17:06:48 <raphael> zakim, bye
17:06:49 <Zakim> Zakim has left #mmsem
17:06:55 <raphael> rrsagent, bye
17:06:55 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-actions.rdf :
17:06:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeff, Raphael to propose the first draft of the F2F meeting agenda [1]
17:06:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-irc#T17-00-31