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13:56:25 <Jonathan> Zakim, list conferences
13:56:25 <Zakim> I see WAI_SC(F2F)7:30AM, SVG_WG()3:00AM active
13:56:27 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are Team_Global(review)8:00AM, MWI_BPWG()10:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, WS_DescWG(WSDL)10:00AM, DI_DIWG(dpf)10:00AM
13:56:33 <Jonathan> Zakim, this will be WSDL
13:56:33 <Zakim> ok, Jonathan; I see WS_DescWG(WSDL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
13:56:41 <Jonathan> RRSAgent, set log world
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14:01:37 <Zakim> WS_DescWG(WSDL)10:00AM has now started
14:01:44 <Zakim> +??P9
14:01:53 <TonyR> zakim, ??p9 is me
14:01:53 <Zakim> +TonyR; got it
14:02:24 <Zakim> +Arthur_Ryman
14:02:27 <Zakim> -TonyR
14:02:28 <Zakim> +TonyR
14:03:05 <Zakim> +Jonathan_Marsh
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14:09:48 <Zakim> +Canon
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14:18:08 <Jonathan> Action: Arthur to add wrappers to the schema.
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14:27:54 <Jonathan> Action: Arthur to put parent, features, properties in the base schema.
14:36:23 <Jonathan> Action: Jonathan to add sorting of soap modules, http/soap headers.
14:50:02 <Zakim> This conference is scheduled to end in 10 minutes; 2 ports must be freed
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14:55:34 <Jonathan> Action: John to file issue whether {rpc signature} should be OPTIONAL (4.1.1)
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15:01:14 <Zakim> -jkaputin
15:01:15 <Zakim> -Arthur_Ryman
15:01:16 <Zakim> -Jonathan_Marsh
15:01:18 <Zakim> -Canon
15:01:19 <Zakim> -TonyR
15:01:21 <Zakim> WS_DescWG(WSDL)10:00AM has ended
15:01:22 <Zakim> Attendees were TonyR, Arthur_Ryman, Jonathan_Marsh, jkaputin, Canon
15:01:42 <JacekK> zakim, this is wsdwg
15:01:42 <Zakim> ok, JacekK; that matches WS_DescWG()11:00AM
15:02:28 <Zakim> +??P9
15:02:35 <TonyR> zakim, ??p9 is me
15:02:35 <Zakim> +TonyR; got it
15:02:43 <Zakim> +Canon
15:02:55 <pauld> agenda: ?
15:03:17 <Zakim> +Jonathan_Marsh
15:03:56 <Jonathan> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006May/0121.html
15:04:28 <Jonathan> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:04:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P20, TonyR, Canon, Jonathan_Marsh
15:04:36 <Zakim> +Anish
15:04:52 <Zakim> -??P20
15:04:55 <Jonathan> Zakim, ??P20 is Jacek
15:04:55 <Zakim> I already had ??P20 as ??P20, Jonathan
15:05:03 <Jonathan> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:05:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see TonyR, Canon, Jonathan_Marsh, Anish
15:05:13 <Zakim> +Arthur_Ryman
15:05:20 <Zakim> +??P21
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15:06:13 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
15:06:39 <Jonathan> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:06:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see TonyR, Canon, Jonathan_Marsh, Anish, Arthur_Ryman, ??P21, Paul_Downey, Gilbert_Pilz
15:06:51 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
15:06:55 <Zakim> +Allen_Brookes
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15:07:14 <JacekK> JacekK has changed the topic to: agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006May/0121.html
15:07:18 <plh> zakim, call plh-work
15:07:18 <Zakim> ok, plh; the call is being made
15:07:20 <Zakim> +Plh
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15:09:52 <Zakim> +??P34
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15:10:03 <plh> rrsagent, where am I?
15:10:03 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T15-10-03
15:10:04 <Jonathan> zakim, ??P34 is Jacek
15:10:04 <Zakim> +Jacek; got it
15:10:42 <plh> Meeting: Web Services Description
15:10:48 <plh> CHair: Jonathan
15:10:49 <Arthur> scribe: arthur
15:10:52 <plh> Scribe: Arthur
15:11:02 <plh> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006May/0121.html
15:11:20 <Arthur> date: 2006-06-01
15:11:48 <Jonathan> ACTION: Jonathan to publicize interop event.
15:13:22 <Arthur> topic: June 22 Telecon
15:13:36 <Arthur> Jonathan and Paul will be at WS-I plenary.
15:14:41 <Arthur> topic: Interop calls
15:15:31 <Arthur> Tony reports that issues have arisen on interprettation, e.g. meaning of REQUIRED for optional extensions: When is REQUIRED in effect?
15:15:40 <Arthur> topic: CR022
15:15:57 <Zakim> +Amelia_Lewis
15:16:27 <TonyR> s/on interprettation/during implementation/
15:18:56 <pauld> Web Services Addressing WSDL Binding now in CR: http://www.w3.org/News/2006#item95
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15:19:05 <Arthur> Jonathan reports that the WSDL 2.0 binding for WS-Addressing appears to violate the proposed restriction in CR022
15:19:25 <Arthur> ACTION: Arthur to review the WS-A spec
15:20:24 <Arthur> Asir: is this a language issue in the WS-A spec?
15:20:34 <Zakim> -Allen_Brookes
15:21:13 <Arthur> Jonathan: suggests we add terminology clarification to our spec, e.g. definition of child component
15:23:24 <Arthur> Jonathan: WS-A WG is not currently meeting but may do so for this topic
15:23:41 <Arthur> topic: CR029
15:23:52 <Arthur> Amy: no progress - do this next week
15:23:59 <Arthur> topic: CR032
15:24:37 <Arthur> Jonathan: contacted Glen and Dave
15:24:55 <Arthur> Glen agrees with the proposal
15:25:24 <Arthur> Leave open for another week to wait for response from Dave
15:25:42 <Arthur> topic: CR036
15:28:06 <Arthur> resolution: accept proposal to change {type definiton} to be Type Definition
15:28:17 <Arthur> topic: CR040
15:28:58 <Arthur> resolution: accept proposal to change {element declaration} to Element Declaration
15:29:36 <Arthur> topic: CR037
15:31:18 <Arthur> Jacek: multipart would be used in MTOM
15:31:47 <Arthur> Jonathan: let's defer further discussion
15:32:21 <Arthur> topic: CR038
15:32:39 <Arthur> Arthur: I corrected the stylesheet to normalize whitespace
15:32:56 <Arthur> resolution: closed
15:33:06 <Arthur> topic: CR037
15:33:51 <Arthur> plh: the spec says other serialization formats are possible
15:34:54 <Arthur> Arthur: I'll look at the spec
15:35:03 <Arthur> topic: CR039
15:35:13 <Arthur> done
15:35:20 <Arthur> topic: CR041
15:36:43 <Arthur> Jonathan: this is like CR032 so we'll wait for Dave's response
15:37:05 <Zakim> -Anish
15:38:09 <plh> [[ Multiple message-header fields with the same field-name MAY be present in a message if and only if the entire field-value for that header field is defined as a comma-separated list [i.e., #(values)]. ]]
15:38:16 <plh> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec4.html#sec4.2
15:38:28 <Arthur> Jacek: HTTP allows multiple headers but their values get catenated
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15:39:21 <Arthur> Jacek: we should have a single component per header
15:39:32 <Zakim> +??P1
15:39:50 <Allen> zakim, ??P1 is Allen
15:39:50 <Zakim> +Allen; got it
15:40:06 <Arthur> resolution: accept proposal to require name to be unique
15:40:12 <Arthur> topic: CR042
15:42:45 <Arthur> resolution: add constraint that QNames in extends attribute must be unique, but need to discuss wording
15:44:44 <Arthur> 1) MUST be unique
15:44:54 <Arthur> 2) NUST NOT contain duplicates
15:45:04 <Arthur> 2) wins!
15:45:19 <Arthur> s/NUST/MUST/
15:45:29 <Arthur> topic: CR043
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15:47:00 <Arthur> resolution: editorial - fix the BNF
15:47:08 <Arthur> topic: CR044
16:10:43 <Arthur> Roberto: the situation for Bindings to different than Interfaces because we need the defaults to support the case of Interface-less Bindings
16:12:11 <Arthur> s/to/is/
16:12:41 <Arthur> Roberto: we need the computation anyway for interface-less bindings
16:20:19 <Arthur> resolution: add editorial clarification to Part 2 to explain that the component model contains default properties to support interface-less bindings
16:21:07 <Arthur> topic: CR046
16:21:29 <Arthur> Arthur: also a whitespace problem that has been fixed
16:21:42 <Arthur> resolution: done
16:21:53 <Arthur> topic: CR050
16:23:34 <Arthur> Jonathan: the spec is confusing since the extension if optional but the property is REQUIRED, so how do we interpret REQUIRED extension properties?
16:24:42 <Zakim> -Paul_Downey
16:25:46 <Arthur> Arthur: if the attribute is present in the XML then it must be present in the component model and its value must equal the value specified
16:26:44 <Arthur> Jacek: if an implementation "knows" about safety, but the attribute is absent, what should it return? I suggest false.
16:27:05 <Arthur> Youenn: I agree, the implementation should return false instead of null.
16:34:17 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
16:34:18 <Zakim> -Arthur_Ryman
16:34:19 <Zakim> -Jacek
16:34:21 <Zakim> -Canon
16:34:22 <Zakim> -Plh
16:34:23 <Zakim> -Allen
16:34:24 <Zakim> -Jonathan_Marsh
16:34:25 <Zakim> -??P21
16:34:27 <Zakim> -Roberto_Chinnici
16:34:29 <Zakim> -Amelia_Lewis
16:34:31 <Zakim> -TonyR
16:34:33 <Zakim> WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended
16:34:35 <Zakim> Attendees were TonyR, Canon, Jonathan_Marsh, Anish, Arthur_Ryman, Paul_Downey, Gilbert_Pilz, Allen_Brookes, Plh, Jacek, Amelia_Lewis, Allen, Roberto_Chinnici
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16:35:04 <Arthur> If an extension is supported that it must obey the constraints, so if safety is supported it must be present on all operations.
16:35:21 <Arthur> Need more discussion on how to make the spec clearer about this.
16:35:30 <plh> zakim, bye
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16:35:49 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:35:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-minutes.html plh
16:36:06 <Arthur> rrsagent, where am i?
16:36:06 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T16-36-06
16:37:10 <Arthur> Meeting adjourned.
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17:42:39 <Jonathan> rrsagent, bye
17:42:39 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-actions.rdf :
17:42:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Arthur to add wrappers to the schema. [1]
17:42:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T14-18-08
17:42:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Arthur to put parent, features, properties in the base schema. [2]
17:42:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T14-27-54
17:42:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jonathan to add sorting of soap modules, http/soap headers. [3]
17:42:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T14-36-23
17:42:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: John to file issue whether {rpc signature} should be OPTIONAL (4.1.1) [4]
17:42:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T14-55-34
17:42:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jonathan to publicize interop event. [5]
17:42:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T15-11-48
17:42:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Arthur to review the WS-A spec [6]
17:42:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/06/01-ws-desc-irc#T15-19-25